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 pizzaguardian wrote:


Reformatted Warhammer 40000: Eldar Dire AvengersThe Dire Avengers squad has been repackaged as a five miniature boxed set (including the option of making an Exarch)

So does this mean they are discontinuing the 10-man Dire Avenger box, or are they having both kits available (equivalent to Marines having Tactical/Combat Squad boxes)?

 insaniak wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
GW doesn't update army. Dakka: "GW never does anything creative. They're lazy."

GW releases entirely new unit. Dakka: "GW never does anything creative. They're lazy."

Ahhh, Dakka, you're more predictable (and lazy) than GW itself.

Dakka is not a hive mind organism. It's hardly surprising that in a community of thousands, people have opinions on what is going on...

Never any shortage of opinions, you're right there. ;-)

Myself, I don't see what this adds to the fluff/game, but it sure as hell makes sense from a sales POV to try and sell everyone a new toy that didn't exist before (so they couldn't have had before and MUST BUY). I'm reserving judgement on the model 'til i see some weapon options / less boring paintjobs / better photos.

 JohnnyHell wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

 JohnnyHell wrote:
GW doesn't update army. Dakka: "GW never does anything creative. They're lazy."

GW releases entirely new unit. Dakka: "GW never does anything creative. They're lazy."

Ahhh, Dakka, you're more predictable (and lazy) than GW itself.

Dakka is not a hive mind organism. It's hardly surprising that in a community of thousands, people have opinions on what is going on...

Never any shortage of opinions, you're right there. ;-)

Myself, I don't see what this adds to the fluff/game, but it sure as hell makes sense from a sales POV to try and sell everyone a new toy that didn't exist before (so they couldn't have had before and MUST BUY). I'm reserving judgement on the model 'til i see some weapon options / less boring paintjobs / better photos.

Given Fantasy has largely moved to the "Big Centrepiece Model" model, it's no surprise that 40k is headed that way too.

As you can tell from my moniker and avatar I play Eldar, and have been doing so for a long time. I can't express how disappointed I am at the release. I have been waiting for exodites since 2nd ed. Instead we get a giant robot which did not exist in the fluff, just like every other 40k army. There really is less and less reason to play different armies at this point, as they have the same types of units. Back in the day even movement differed between armies. Maybe the genius game designers will make everyone toughness 4.

 Kroothawk wrote:
From some unnamed 4chan source, quoted on Warseer:

<snip>
Repacked:
WINDRIDER JETBIKE SQUAD - 3 OLD jetbikes.
<snip>

Are they that short of cash or resource to update that jetbike model from 1994!

Is there any difference between the Dire Avengers sprue available in the Battleforce, and the sprues available in the box? If not, I guess its just a repack.

Also, seems a very lackey release, I mean - not even new jetbikes?

Was there mention of Limited Edition codecies in prior release lists? There doesn't seem to be one, here?

Not sure what to think. I really hope that is not the entire list.

Disappointed by the lack of new jetbikes but if they are the old ones repackaged I will get them if the price and rules update are sensible.

I am mainly interested in the new codex and cards plus wraithguard for now but if this spiritseer is a nice model I will pick one up.


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Does anyone know anything more about the rumoured new transport vehicle?

I would rather just have the falcon moved to a dedicated transport personally as I already have 2!

Thanks a lot, pizzaguardian. I added the edited full release list to the first post

 JohnnyHell wrote:
GW releases entirely new unit. Dakka: "GW never does anything creative. They're lazy."

Ahhh, Dakka, you're more predictable (and lazy) than GW itself.

Wraithknight, Wraithblades, Wraithfighter. Is there a lazier way imaginable to name the new units?

I wouldn't read to much into the OLD jetbike repack.

We will see soon enough but all reliable rumour sources indicate new bikes are on the way.

And the name matters more then the model? Personally i think they could call it tastycakes-banana-muffin and i would still buy it.

As for the wraithguard finally getting plastics; it´s about damn time!

 Agamemnon2 wrote:

 tarnish wrote:
Every single time something new gets released from GW its the same thing: Some autistic and overtly paranoid "pro gamers" cry out in dismay and wail in unison that this will destroy said race and the game will die horribly because of this new addition.
Get... over..it! The model is comming and there is nothing you can do about it. Stop crying, gather your 2nd ed minis and go pretend its the past in a closet without internet connection.

Thank you for that constructive putdown, Sir. I'm sure we're all resting more peacefully in our beds knowing that a wit of Sir's caliber is deployed in the defence of poor, beleaguered Games Workshop. And might I congratulate Sir on the rare double-whammy of insulting both the autistic and everyone who deigns to disagree with Sir on a matter as vital to universal happiness as the aesthetics of a plastic figurine.

Truly, we are in the presence of giants.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Using quotes from crappy movies to justify being a pr*ck is the new black I hear.

Compared to some of the excrement being flung around here, it's positively Shakespearean, i assure you.

Can´t say that im defending GWs honor (and why would i?). It´s just tiresome to have to wade through all the ire that a new release brings forth to actually be able to talk about the release... If i have to offend the poor, beleaguered naysayers to tone down the whining then i would call it a fair trade off.

So all the new units are WraithNOUNS. How exhilarating!

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
So all the new units are WraithNOUNS. How exhilarating!

Well if that rumor is correct they didn't repack the jetbikes as Wraithriders, but Windriders instead. So it must be fake.

 Shandara wrote:

 Agamemnon2 wrote:
So all the new units are WraithNOUNS. How exhilarating!

Well if that rumor is correct they didn't repack the jetbikes as Wraithriders, but Windriders instead. So it must be fake.

Could be worse. They could have called them ghostriders...

There are a couple of neat things here, mainly plastic wraithguard.

It is pretty disappointing that the release is only a fraction of what was rumored. And the rumored names for the flyers (lamia/moon siren) were much better.

I'm hoping the Dire Avenger repack doesn't turn out to be the same price as the current box of ten.

 tarnish wrote:
And the name matters more then the model?

I don't think anyone has claimed that at any point in this thread.

All people are saying is that GW are lazy as gak with all their naming of new kits, and it's very true.

That supplement is exciting, if only because it means there's a good chance of further supplements...fingers crossed for a Guard Regiment one.

 zedmeister wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
From some unnamed 4chan source, quoted on Warseer:

<snip>
Repacked:
WINDRIDER JETBIKE SQUAD - 3 OLD jetbikes.
<snip>

Are they that short of cash or resource to update that jetbike model from 1994!

What make it so confusing it that we KNOW that they aren't. Prototype designs for the Eldar Jetbike have been around since Jes started working on the Dark Eldar ones several years ago now. He even stated in interviews that he had worked on a base design for both races which he then split into two projects, the Dark Eldar one which he finished and was release, and the Eldar one which got put on hold a reasonable way through the development cycle until they actually needed it. Tbh this is the only major surprise for me in the initial release purely because of the existing work we know was done on Jetbikes. Other than that we got a flier kit, a bit monster kit and an updated Wraithguard kit (with CC option) + a few random characters, a tad light perhaps but not that surprising. Fortunately the rest of the army holds up pretty well tbh its just the Aspects that haven't been updated (at all) that obviously need a makeover (Hawks, Spiders, Shining Spears)

The Eldar jetbike prototype is now 6 years old. Maybe they couldn't find it anymore

And with all the giant walkers, future 40k games will look like a Godzilla movie




Here is what Sororitas will get :

The Wraithknight is... interesting. I'm a sucker for giant robots so it's hard for me to complain about getting more options, although I can understand the fluff annoyance. I understand that they wanted to give it a pilot and so it has a more barrel shaped chest, but that makes it look very non-Eldar... it's just not slender enough to fit in. It may just be a bad photograph though, so who knows.

I'm fine with supplemental codices. Releasing it along with the main codex is a bit frustrating, but if they plan on doing one for each craftworld I can understand not putting Iyanden in the main codex. Now, if it's a 30USD purchase and iPad only, I'll be good and annoyed but for now... I'm cautiously optimistic.

 Kroothawk wrote:
The Eldar jetbike prototype is now 6 years old. Maybe they couldn't find it anymore

Nah. They have the prototype, they just lost track of who has the copyright.

Sigh... so no new plastic aspects either? The newest ones are banshees and they're 10 years old aren't they? Aren't the Warp Spiders leftovers from second edition? The only ones that could go without an update are the fire dragons, and unless we see enormous rules changes in this codex, we'd need more of those too because when 50% of your army is made of them, they shouldn't all be made of 3 different poses.

Yeah, having exactly 0 new aspects in plastic is very disappointing. This army needs more plastic in general.

I do like the releases but it seem so insufficient without new jetbikes. A bit absurd that the old model is being used despite a newer model having been finished years ago..

Oh well, guess I'll continue to not use jetbikes.

Well... I'm going to hog the old Dire Avenger packages while it lasts... Seriously... lowering it down to 5 guys per box. Would be furious if they price it 31 euros to.

Anyone else look at the wraithknight's arm and think of a yugioh duel disk

That's great GW are doing supplements for Elements of the army, but how about just printing them in the £30 codex instead.

I could even be made happy if I could buy it as a separate book for between £5-£10, but it's a digital download only. Fantastic, said nobody, anywhere.

 pizzaguardian wrote:
New Finecast ReleasesWarhammer 40000: Illic Nightspear· A clampack that contains one highly detailed Citadel Finecast resin miniature sculpted by Edgar Ramos. Illic Nightspear is an outcast who has become an deadly assassin armed with the sniper rifle Voidbringer.

Warhammer 40000: Eldar Spiritseer· A clampack that contains one highly detailed Citadel Finecast resin miniature sculpted by Mike Fores. Armed with a Witch Staff and spirit stone wearing a distinctive eyeless helm.Available While Stocks LastThese Items are highly limited, please request the quantity you require and we will supply you as close to this number as we can.

Warhammer 40,000 Psychic Cards: Eldar·This pack contains 14 reference cards that describe the effects of each of the Primaris Powers and the the six psychic powers available to each area of mastery

So im happy to see we get 2 psychic disiplines hopefully a support one and a damage one? id Love to see battle farseer shooting witchfire everywhere.

Eldar Farseer
A plastic Clamp pack containing 1 Eldar Hero in a dynamic mid-casting posse.

What I always wanted - a Farseer with his dynamic posse. Wraithposse

Feeble jokes based on small typo's aside I'm pretty underwhelmed - however plastic Wraithguard sound good - even Wraithblades might be okay if they look cool. For me the background of a pilot weeping or whatever is more emodark than grimdark, the Wraithknight might look better in the flesh but I feel all these new uber-kits are getting a little silly for my tastes. Only time will tell if the repacks are better or worse value than before...

Nvs wrote:
Sigh... so no new plastic aspects either? .

According to the quote posted on the previous page, the Crimson Hunter variant of the flyer is actually an Aspect Warrior.

Not what you wanted to hear, I know, but I wonder if more vehicles will get professional combat pilots (i.e. BS4)?