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MajorWesJanson wrote:

 spaceelf wrote:
Instead we get a giant robot which did not exist in the fluff, just like every other 40k army.

You mean besides the Fire Gale, Towering Destroyer, and Bright Stallion?

Hey, if it actually looked like a Towering Destroyer or a Bright Stallion then I'd have a lot fewer issues with it.
A centaur-walker or a 4-armed giant would at least be interesting.
We seem to have gotten a guardian on steroids that has grabbed a duel-disk on his way to battle instead of his shuriken catapult.

 Flood wrote:

 motyak wrote:

 Medium of Death wrote:

 pizzaguardian wrote:
I also have the information that Wraithknight has a whoooopoing 70 pounds retail price.

That's pretty mental. That's really taking the piss now. The £50 price tag of the Tau Suit was about as far as I thought they'd go...

Edit: In saying that, we're getting into the realms of FW prices for kits that are a lot easier to prep, albeit worse looking. I'm holding out on the Knight. I think it has the potential to look very good. Official picks shall be the decider.

Is there anything else that is 70 pounds? I'm trying to find out how much it'll cost here by comparing it with something else. The Riptide is $90.00, so if your one is 20 pounds more than the Riptide, the Wraith thing here will well break 100, possibly the most expensive model outside of superheavies?

Imperial Guard Baneblade is £70 on GW site.

Thanks, I found it eventually before refreshing this page. So $165 over here. Ha. Hahaha. Hahahahahaha. Thank god I don't play eldar

 pizzaguardian wrote:
I also have the information that Wraithknight has a whoooopoing 70 pounds retail price.

A lot of money for 1 model that's likely only 1/10 of your total army. GW probably compares it's prices PP's megadoodz, but those are 20 points, which is nearly half of an army. So while model for model the prices are similar, the cost of building a GW army is very high.

It's a really nice model imo, and I look forward to shooting it full of poison in the near future.

Maybe eventually I'll have a full Eldarzilla army, but GW priced me out of impulse buying.

Yeah...I'll be getting mine from a discounter. Not one single chance that I'll be paying BB prices for this thing.

I must muster my Eldar for WAR !

(And muster my wallet for spending)

Does anyone have a confirmed price for the WraithKnight?

I really hope it isn't £70. £50 for a Riptide is bad enough!

Final nail in the coffin for that 'leaked' release list. Thankfully.

 pretre wrote:
Final nail in the coffin for that 'leaked' release list. Thankfully.

I don't understand, it's good that it's 70 pounds?

 rohansoldier wrote:
Does anyone have a confirmed price for the WraithKnight?

I really hope it isn't £70. £50 for a Riptide is bad enough!

Not happy about the price as well. But sadly i think my info is correct about this one.

 pretre wrote:
Final nail in the coffin for that 'leaked' release list. Thankfully.

Proof! "Leaks" and "Previews" before the official release hurt GW's sales

IF the "no new bikes" rumor is true, then I will very likely be spending no money on the new stuff. I want to paint up a new batch of bikes for my army, using painting techniques that I've learned since doing my last unit... but I'm not going to waste that on the ancient models and I don't really have the interest in converting the old bikes to look better (I already did that project once, and I really dislike repeating prior work).

The Knight I do like, in general terms, but it looks very much like the legs are one piece each, which is very disappointing. If I'm not getting new bikes to paint up, the Knight is not impressive enough for me to want to pick up as well. Given the layout of my army as it currently plays, unless the thing has a 12" move from its huge legs it just doesn't fit.

Overall, I'm looking forward to the new book, but without new bikes I won't have enough new items to paint to make it worth making any sort of large time investment in updating my army.

 motyak wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Final nail in the coffin for that 'leaked' release list. Thankfully.

I don't understand, it's good that it's 70 pounds?

No, I wasn't commenting on the price. I was saying that the Eldar release finally kills that 'leaked' release list from last year that everyone thought was the cat's meow. Previous releases had seriously damaged it but some folks keep going on about how June was still coming blah blah. Eldar was a significant part of it and just got proven false.

288023030140207 Harlequin Solitaire RE c01 Len_A 02 cc
208263530941100 The Avatar of Khaine RE b09 Len_A 11 cc
208284511450206 Eldar Wraithguard / Cataphracts PL a14 Len_C 02 cc
208284711550201 Eldar Sky Chariots / Shining Spears PL a15 Len_C 02 cc
208285011450208 Eldar Warpspiders / Everguard PL a14 Len_C 02 cc
208285230150200 Eldar Black Warden RE c01 Len_C 02 cc
208297830180402 Phoenix Lord Kyme'doc, The Planetwister RE c01 XianD 04 cc
208281811450202 Eldar Eldritch Raiders PL a14 Len_C 02 cc
208282112050207 Eldar Webway Gate PL a20 Len_C 02 cc
208283411250206 Eldar Phoenix Lord Nuadhu, The Fireheart / Alean Vyper PL a12 Len_C 02 cc
208283512050200 Eldar Spirit Warrior PL a20 Len_C 02 cc
208283911550202 Eldar Dragon Riders PL a15 Len_C 02 cc
208286130150208 Eldar Fire Dragon Xentarch RE c01 Len_C 02 cc
208286230150207 Eldar Dire Avenger Xentarch RE c01 Len_C 02 cc
208286330150206 Eldar Howling Banshee Xentarch RE c01 Len_C 02 cc
208286430150205 Eldar Striking Scorpion Xentarch RE c01 Len_C 02 cc
208286530150204 The Avatar of the Young King RE c01 Len_C 02 cc
208281612050205 Eldar Lamia Strike Fighter / Moon Siren Bomber PL a20 Len_C 02 cc
208287930150207 Eldar Warlock with Force Staff RE c01 Len_C 02 cc
208288530950204 Eldar Swooping Hawks RE b09 Len_C 02 cc

All false.

208283611550205 Eldar Jetbikes PL a15 Len_C 02 cc

Up in the air right now.

That.... isn't what I was expecting the Wraithknight to look like. I'm not sure if I like it or not. It seems like once again the head is too small and the arms are kind of puny and short. And is it just me, or does this thing not quite have the same aesthetic as the previous Eldar mecha?

The fighter thing could be cool looking though.

I can't tell you all how absolutely gutted I am about this (potentially) incredibly weak release.., I have been waiting on new Eldar minis for a decade now and am totally underwhelmed by what is being touted here. No new Aspect models? No new Jetbikes? A stupid Wraith-Mecha-Walker-Anime nonsense kit and a downloadable only rules supplement that could have easily been put into the Codex?! Which will most likely have to be FAQ'd within a week of release?

Brilliant. Just brilliant.

Not to mention that the Iyanden rules supplement smells distinctly like a cash grab by a company that is very obviously rushing the release and grabbing at straws.. I would very likely have bought a new Battleforce, but judging from this, I really can't see the point. I mean, why not change the damn Jetbikes FFS?! They have been the same since I was 14 years old. 14.

 motyak wrote:

 Flood wrote:

 motyak wrote:

 Medium of Death wrote:

 pizzaguardian wrote:
I also have the information that Wraithknight has a whoooopoing 70 pounds retail price.

That's pretty mental. That's really taking the piss now. The £50 price tag of the Tau Suit was about as far as I thought they'd go...

Edit: In saying that, we're getting into the realms of FW prices for kits that are a lot easier to prep, albeit worse looking. I'm holding out on the Knight. I think it has the potential to look very good. Official picks shall be the decider.

Is there anything else that is 70 pounds? I'm trying to find out how much it'll cost here by comparing it with something else. The Riptide is $90.00, so if your one is 20 pounds more than the Riptide, the Wraith thing here will well break 100, possibly the most expensive model outside of superheavies?

Imperial Guard Baneblade is £70 on GW site.

Thanks, I found it eventually before refreshing this page. So $165 over here. Ha. Hahaha. Hahahahahaha. Thank god I don't play eldar

Probably we will get slapped with an extra 10% because kanji need more ink so I win
On a second thought it's great! Please GW don't price it so low, 100 pounds it`s what that kit is wanting! That way combined with the lack of official support for tournaments and other stuff I'll start exporting Armored Core kits like crazy

M.

@pretre


more points in the rumor thread for me! :p

 Miguelsan wrote:

 motyak wrote:

 Flood wrote:

 motyak wrote:

 Medium of Death wrote:

 pizzaguardian wrote:
I also have the information that Wraithknight has a whoooopoing 70 pounds retail price.

That's pretty mental. That's really taking the piss now. The £50 price tag of the Tau Suit was about as far as I thought they'd go...

Edit: In saying that, we're getting into the realms of FW prices for kits that are a lot easier to prep, albeit worse looking. I'm holding out on the Knight. I think it has the potential to look very good. Official picks shall be the decider.

Is there anything else that is 70 pounds? I'm trying to find out how much it'll cost here by comparing it with something else. The Riptide is $90.00, so if your one is 20 pounds more than the Riptide, the Wraith thing here will well break 100, possibly the most expensive model outside of superheavies?

Imperial Guard Baneblade is £70 on GW site.

Thanks, I found it eventually before refreshing this page. So $165 over here. Ha. Hahaha. Hahahahahaha. Thank god I don't play eldar

Probably we will get slapped with an extra 10% because kanji need more ink so I win
On a second thought it's great! Please GW don't price it so low, 100 pounds it`s what that kit is wanting! That way combined with the lack of official support for tournaments and other stuff I'll start exporting Armored Core kits like crazy

M.

I forgot about you guys. It's 13,500 yen apparently (for the baneblade, i could be misreading that, navigation is difficult when you don't understand anything...), which adds up to roughly 135 in Aus. Using Google Calculator, that means that we are back in the winning seat!

I really wish GW would have kept Barbie and Gundam out of the Eldar. Tau, yes. But Eldar wearing high heels, contemtper dread armor to cover its boobs, and an aspect warrior head makes me think there's someone not paying attention to Epic Phantoms and Forgeworld.

I do like the flyer. Doesn't look quite as phallic as we were lead to believe.

Wow, that is steep for Aussies. If you bought it here (discounter), delivered to a UK address then mailed it to Oz, it would still be about $50 AUD cheaper (not inc. normal Oz delivery postage).
Any Ozzies need a Scottish penpal? lol

Sorry for going OT

That's if you use sensible real world exchange rates. GW in all their magnanimity do not lest our minds be damaged by how difficult it's to adjust prices downward

M.

 sarpedons-right-hand wrote:
I can't tell you all how absolutely gutted I am about this (potentially) incredibly weak release.., I have been waiting on new Eldar minis for a decade now and am totally underwhelmed by what is being touted here. No new Aspect models? No new Jetbikes? A stupid Wraith-Mecha-Walker-Anime nonsense kit and a downloadable only rules supplement that could have easily been put into the Codex?! Which will most likely have to be FAQ'd within a week of release?

Brilliant. Just brilliant.

Not to mention that the Iyanden rules supplement smells distinctly like a cash grab by a company that is very obviously rushing the release and grabbing at straws.. I would very likely have bought a new Battleforce, but judging from this, I really can't see the point. I mean, why not change the damn Jetbikes FFS?! They have been the same since I was 14 years old. 14.

If the Iyanden rules are official for regular games then it is obviously a gimmick to get people to buy the digital stuff, and another attack on indy retailers. Im not impressed with the direct copy Wraithtide, but it will depend greatly on its rules whether or not it sees table use, especially since we can expect it to be $100.

Ive been waiting for this since 5th, its got a lot of expectations to meet.

So the waithknight is £70...

And a Stompa is £60...

So your telling me that a super heavy walker is cheaper than a normal 40k kit?

Wow GW logic right there...

 Miguelsan wrote:
That's if you use sensible real world exchange rates. GW in all their magnanimity do not lest our minds be damaged by how difficult it's to adjust prices downward

M.

I don't understand, it isn't because of the exchange rates that we win, it's because I was using the one kit from GW which is the same price as the rumoured price for this thing, and we (Australians) have the most expensive. Because $165 is worth more than 13500 yen. But then it is nearly 1am, I am probably making a silly error somewhere

 sarpedons-right-hand wrote:
I can't tell you all how absolutely gutted I am about this (potentially) incredibly weak release.., I have been waiting on new Eldar minis for a decade now and am totally underwhelmed by what is being touted here. No new Aspect models? No new Jetbikes? A stupid Wraith-Mecha-Walker-Anime nonsense kit and a downloadable only rules supplement that could have easily been put into the Codex?! Which will most likely have to be FAQ'd within a week of release?

Brilliant. Just brilliant.

Not to mention that the Iyanden rules supplement smells distinctly like a cash grab by a company that is very obviously rushing the release and grabbing at straws.. I would very likely have bought a new Battleforce, but judging from this, I really can't see the point. I mean, why not change the damn Jetbikes FFS?! They have been the same since I was 14 years old. 14.

Because GW is incredibly risk-averse at the moment and updating a kit to plastic or already in plastic is a huge risk for them. If they release the jetbikes, for argument's sake, and the new model is fantastic, how many people will buy it? Of those that are buying it, how many own existing models? Of that population, how many are going to sell their old models, putting a glut of jetbikes on the market that diminishes demand given how exorbitant the prices will be compared to buying models second-hand. The answer is unknowable, but it's a reasonable assumption that an update will produce a lot of secondary market trading. GW clearly views that, as many not-quite-smart companies do, as a lost sale. If you look at the past releases, an exceedingly small number of existing units have actually been updated, and very few at all if you remove dual kits that also make a new unit. The Tau got the only two that I can think of readily, and one of those was replacing one of the worst kits to assemble in GW's entire range (Broadside).

If they release something new, everyone will buy it if the rules are good enough (which they will be, for exactly that reason). As there is no secondary market, there are no "lost" sales, even if the overall volume is not as high as it could have been. This gives them the nice, predictable numbers they seem so enamored with at the moment.

In other news, I don't mind the look of the Wraithknight, but I'm also leery of GW likely charging an insane amount for it. We're coming up on the timeframe for the annual price hike after all. It's in the "maybe" pile, but I can easily see GW pricing it such that I don't go for it.

 happygolucky wrote:
So the waithknight is £70...

And a Stompa is £60...

So your telling me that a super heavy walker is cheaper than a normal 40k kit?

Wow GW logic right there...

A Stompa is £70 now.

If that really is the WK price, these prices are starting to look like a bad joke. I was going to buy some of the new HE Shadow Warriors for conversion purposes, but the £30 price tag put me off. I wouldn't mind a Riptide, but it's hard to justify the £50 for something I'd mainly be buying for the rules (the model itself is a bit "action figure" for my taste). I converted my own Broadsides because getting four of the new ones would have come to £120. It's almost as if GW are trying to push their luck with pricing as far as they can...

 Flood wrote:
Wow, that is steep for Aussies. If you bought it here (discounter), delivered to a UK address then mailed it to Oz, it would still be about $50 AUD cheaper (not inc. normal Oz delivery postage).
Any Ozzies need a Scottish penpal? lol

Sorry for going OT

Haven't people been over this already?

Don't Aussie's earn more on average? thus they pay more on average?

Jacob29 wrote:

 Flood wrote:
Wow, that is steep for Aussies. If you bought it here (discounter), delivered to a UK address then mailed it to Oz, it would still be about $50 AUD cheaper (not inc. normal Oz delivery postage).
Any Ozzies need a Scottish penpal? lol

Sorry for going OT

Haven't people been over this already?

Don't Aussie's earn more on average? thus they pay more on average?

I really need to keep one of H.B.M.C's or Insaniak's really intelligent posts which show just how wrong that idea is ready for when someone else brings it up. But we shouldn't go too far off topic here.

 pizzaguardian wrote:
@pretre


more points in the rumor thread for me! :p

Are you counting that release list you posted? I don't usually count 'leaks' when we are this close. It really isn't a rumor when you're a week out except in some specific circumstances.

 Fezman wrote:

 happygolucky wrote:
So the waithknight is £70...

And a Stompa is £60...

So your telling me that a super heavy walker is cheaper than a normal 40k kit?

Wow GW logic right there...

A Stompa is £70 now.

If that really is the WK price, these prices are starting to look like a bad joke...

They went past a bad joke since 2008...

Now they just like probing us in the rectum for cash...

Broadsides and pathfinders were simply re-released models.

To my knowledge, they're selling quite well.