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 Absolutionis wrote:

FarseerAndyMan wrote:
HELLO....

Its Sci-fi guys...anti-grav...lazers...aliens...

Who cares if it "looks" like it could fly?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verisimilitude_%28narrative%29

Well, I see your verisimilitude and rise you by Millennium Falcon, a ship that's apparently able to enter the atmosphere. And that was a pretty good movie when it comes to immersion, despite people bouncing lazors off of light sticks.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Well, I see your verisimilitude and rise you by Millennium Falcon, a ship that's apparently able to enter the atmosphere. And that was a pretty good movie when it comes to immersion, despite people bouncing lazors off of light sticks.

Pronged trashcan lid isn't an aerodynamic design? News to me!

 pretre wrote:

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Well, I see your verisimilitude and rise you by Millennium Falcon, a ship that's apparently able to enter the atmosphere. And that was a pretty good movie when it comes to immersion, despite people bouncing lazors off of light sticks.

Pronged trashcan lid isn't an aerodynamic design? News to me!

Yeah, I was shocked too. It was almost as soul crushing as Ewoks.

Any news on Runes of Warding? Have they stayed the same?

valace2 wrote:
Any news on Runes of Warding? Have they stayed the same?

Check the first post and no.

Yeah, never fly even with technology tens of thousands of years advanced...

There weren't any hints about Runes of Warding in the WD, nothing in the previews section and the report was against Crons so it obviously didn't come up there.

Spoiler alert though: RoW won't be board wide anymore.

Speculation, of course.

Wait... 70£ for the Wraithknight.... 53*15% (shipping, I live in Sweden) = 60.95£ for the ForgeWorld Avatar. Well I know where my priorities are!

 Gar'Ang wrote:
Wait... 70£ for the Wraithknight.... 53*15% (shipping, I live in Sweden) = 60.95£ for the ForgeWorld Avatar. Well I know where my priorities are!

I can't believe they're charging $25.00 USD more than the Riptide for what is basically four inches of stilts.

You notice how the eurofighter doesn't have massive blunt objects facing the flow other than the engine intakes like the new eldar fighter has? Yeah, that's because they suck.

Like I said, inability to fly is just one reason I don't like the new Eldar fighter (and even then it's mostly because the older Eldar planes DO look like they could fly).

From the top, it doesn't look too bad, just looks a bit stubby, from the front and bottom it looks, blergh.



I understand not everything HAS to look like it could fly, but it at least HAS to look cool

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I understand not everything HAS to look like it could fly, but it at least HAS to look cool

You're looking at one angle of the model. Give it a couple minutes and wait to see the model. Or we can just keep going in circles about the flyers.

edit: For all you know, the guns are held magically in those tubes and they flow all the way to the back so nothing blocking and air flows straight through.

 azreal13 wrote:



Yeah, never fly even with technology tens of thousands of years advanced...

My first thought when I saw it's cockpit was "didn't I dissect one of those in high school?"



Not a fan nor a hater of either the wraithknight or this flier... although I do like the sword wielding wraithguard though.

Concerning the science discussion:
Ask a Neanderthal scientist how a credible mobile phone looks like, then you get an idea how today's science is relevant to alien flyers in 38k years.
The history of absolute truths is quite fascinating

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
From the top, it doesn't look too bad, just looks a bit stubby, from the front and bottom it looks, blergh.

From that angle, it looks like it could mate with the hell drake

To be honest.... If that price is right, it is literally more than I get per month. On the other hand I am a 17 y old student in Sweden living home and summer is coming so, shouldn't complain.

I'm just happy that the very army who dragged me into 40k is getting an update, I also made my craftworlds fluff to be sort of similiar to Iyandeen or more like a "sister" to it, hence why I already have a decent amount of WG (10, got them for 200SEK which I think is about 20£, a real steal) for my financial situation.

 pretre wrote:

valace2 wrote:
Any news on Runes of Warding? Have they stayed the same?

Check the first post and no.

Sooooo.... You've been telling people that although several sources say that Dire Avengers are going to 5 for $35 it's not confirmed so we shouldn't rush to judgment, but it's perfectly acceptable to state as fact, without evidence, that Runes of Warding are changing. Interesting.

Remember when I said this release underwhelmed me? I take it all back! The latest set of pictures has really impressed me, especially the Ranger special character and the options for the Wraithknight. At this point I don't think I'm going to be making Eldar, but the new stuff is tempting enough that I'm trying to decide whether or not to pick up an Avenger box or two just in case...

I think his no was directed to the news part, there are no news regarding runes of warding....

Skogkat wrote:

 pretre wrote:

valace2 wrote:
Any news on Runes of Warding? Have they stayed the same?

Check the first post and no.

Sooooo.... You've been telling people that although several sources say that Dire Avengers are going to 5 for $35 it's not confirmed so we shouldn't rush to judgment, but it's perfectly acceptable to state as fact, without evidence, that Runes of Warding are changing. Interesting.

The truth is out there...

I'd love it if either C:Eldar or C:Iyanden had Wrathseer rules.

Missed the point.

 Kingsley wrote:
Remember when I said this release underwhelmed me? I take it all back! The latest set of pictures has really impressed me, especially the Ranger special character and the options for the Wraithknight. At this point I don't think I'm going to be making Eldar, but the new stuff is tempting enough that I'm trying to decide whether or not to pick up an Avenger box or two just in case...

I have something like 40 or so of the buggers lying around; hell I'm probably ordering a few extra boxes; worst come to you'll get your money back on selling them easily.

I think I have worked out where GW has got it's eldar flyer design inspiration from.

Oh come on, that was hardly funny the first time around.

...much less the next five times.

 pretre wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I understand not everything HAS to look like it could fly, but it at least HAS to look cool

You're looking at one angle of the model. Give it a couple minutes and wait to see the model. Or we can just keep going in circles about the flyers.

edit: For all you know, the guns are held magically in those tubes and they flow all the way to the back so nothing blocking and air flows straight through.

Maybe it'll surprise me and it'll look awesome in the flesh. Hell, some C3 Corvettes look ugly from certain angles, but look awesome all over when you see them in the fibreglass... I'm not holding my breath though.

At the end of the day, regardless of aerodynamics, I think the gunpods look stupid/ugly/whatever (I'm not a fan of them on the Razorwing either, but here they look even more disproportionate). The aerodynamic thing is just the icing on the cake and as someone who's job it is to analyse aerodynamic design (not of aircraft, but still) I feel qualified to have aerodynamics as a point to bitch about it

Well, I do like what I see. Not an Eldar player, and got too much on my plate to think about starting a new army, but maybe one day in the future...

 Marzillius wrote:

Skogkat wrote:

 pretre wrote:

valace2 wrote:
Any news on Runes of Warding? Have they stayed the same?

Check the first post and no.

Sooooo.... You've been telling people that although several sources say that Dire Avengers are going to 5 for $35 it's not confirmed so we shouldn't rush to judgment, but it's perfectly acceptable to state as fact, without evidence, that Runes of Warding are changing. Interesting.

Look at the nerf to Psychic Hood. Psychich defense is getting toned down, and honestly, Runes of Warding is too good. It's almost anti-fun.

I think you missed my point.

 Breotan wrote:
I can't believe they're charging $25.00 USD more than the Riptide for what is basically four inches of stilts.

$30!

Skogkat wrote:

 pretre wrote:

valace2 wrote:
Any news on Runes of Warding? Have they stayed the same?

Check the first post and no.

Sooooo.... You've been telling people that although several sources say that Dire Avengers are going to 5 for $35 it's not confirmed so we shouldn't rush to judgment, but it's perfectly acceptable to state as fact, without evidence, that Runes of Warding are changing. Interesting.

Better add him to the Rumor tracker.

Oh dear god... I'm about to get my first real paycheck and 100% of it is going towards Eldar at this rate The Wraithblades with the swords are probably my favorite models of this release, despite not liking them very much with the axes. I hope they've got the crunch to back it up!

 Kroothawk wrote:
Concerning the science discussion:
Ask a Neanderthal scientist how a credible mobile phone looks like, then you get an idea how today's science is relevant to alien flyers in 38k years.
The history of absolute truths is quite fascinating

Well they already have Nightwings, which are sweep wing interceptor aircraft, implying the Eldar are still using the basic aerodynamics we know and love today and still have to worry about things like shockwaves and pressure drag I'm pretty sure somewhere in the AI books it talks about how Nightwings are superior to other aircraft in part because of their streamlining.

If GW created a world where aerodynamics were irrelevant like Star Wars or a plethora of other sci-fi worlds, it'd be less annoying. But the fact is Eldar HAVE an aerodynamic aircraft, the Nightwing, and now they've got this abomination

But like I said, the fact it has terrible aerodynamics, in isolation, is not my issue.