Eldar rumours (Preorder pics added to first post)

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**Redemption**

adamsouza wrote:
Just saw this on FaceBook

Seems to me like it's just another Wraithlord that's closer than the other. It doesn't have the Wraithknight's warp vanes, head or weapon loadouts. And of course the Wraithknight concepts are dated 2011.

**Sidstyler**

Morachi wrote:
Looks like they got lazy with this release, the Tau got different cover art, this time with the Eldar they just removed the text and left it looking pretty as originally painted by the artist.

They've all been different it seems. Some more "lazy" than others.

The CSM codex was the Swanland art, but in black and white with no text and a blood splatter at the bottom corner.
DA I don't remember exactly but I think it was also the Swanland art without text, but still full color.
Chaos Daemons got a choice of four LE covers that were mostly black and had a tiny little piece of Blanche art in the middle depending on which god you picked. Wasn't particularly impressed with that one.
Tau got a new cover with a slip case. Wasn't too bad but I personally didn't care enough to blow $100 on it.
Now we're back to full color textless Swanland art but with a dust jacket...a kinda lame-looking one too in my opinion.

And of course all of them are pointless and a waste of money. I won't knock it if you've got money to burn and you're a "collector", but I personally don't see how any of these books have any value to a collector. Doesn't matter if they're limited edition or not, when the game rules are outdated the codex will still be worthless in the end, like all the old codices that were replaced in 3rd, 4th, etc., and the collector's edition of the 5th edition rulebook now that 6th edition is out. This is definitely something you would want to buy only if you were hardcore enough and really into that army (or having LE rulebooks in general for whatever reason), people buying up LE rulebooks with the intent to flip them on eBay for a profit later will be sorely disappointed.

Also, I saw that on Facebook too and it's pretty stupid. Hey, the striking scorpion on the right side in the foreground looks a lot bigger than the other scorpions next to him. New character/exarch in the works? What about that guy in the middle that just towers over everyone else?

**B0B MaRlEy**

Nah it's a revenant, look at the arms, the big guns are fused in them unlike on the wraithlord nor the wraithknight.

**Sidstyler**

Or it could just be an artist's interpretation of a wraithlord with guns fused to the arms like a revenant. It looks almost exactly like the one in the background but without the sword to me.

**B0B MaRlEy**

Actually it does, the head would be off for a revenant, and the scale compared to the warlock that looks to be close-by makes it wraithlord sized.

**judgedoug**

I figured out what was bugging me about the Wraithknight... the Eldar back-vane things are not nearly big enough. I wonder how hard it would be to make them larger.

**PalmerC**

Perhaps already covered but I saw on a You Tube vid someone liken the WraithKnight to a large Guardian or Dire Avenger in its design. If you look at the shoulder guards and vents above them and think about it I think this has some merit. DOnt get me wrong I have always liked the model since the pics were released but with this persepctive I think it makes it fit in even more.

**Gangrel767**

Eldar Corsair I think

**MRPYM**

I did not see this so:

http://faeit.blogspot.ca/2013/05/pictures-of-eldar-content-are-out.html

**midget_overlord**

MRPYM wrote:
I did not see this so:

http://faeit.blogspot.ca/2013/05/pictures-of-eldar-content-are-out.html

You must play orks then? Or maybe necrons?

**FarseerAndyMan**

Has anyone seen the I-pad blurb about the Shuriken Weapons? .. sorry if its been covered, extremely long trhread...

**MRPYM**

midget_overlord wrote:
MRPYM wrote:
I did not see this so:

http://faeit.blogspot.ca/2013/05/pictures-of-eldar-content-are-out.html

You must play orks then? Or maybe necrons?

What do you mean? I play eldar.

**pretre**

You'll notice that Natfka didn't host the codex pics.

**Zweischneid**

pretre wrote:
You'll notice that Natfka didn't host the codex pics.

Does that make a difference?

**pretre**

Zweischneid wrote:
pretre wrote:
You'll notice that Natfka didn't host the codex pics.

Does that make a difference?

It prevents him from getting shut down again.

**SickSix**

Anyone else see the errata for the codex is already on the GW site?

**pretre**

SickSix wrote:
Anyone else see the errata for the codex is already on the GW site?

Only once every couple pages since it got posted.

**Carthuun**

So based off the information on Warp Spiders here:

http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2013/05/27/rumor-it-eldar-rules-stuff/

I'm going to say that Warp Spiders are getting their flamer templates back. Why? Because the Exarch can take a twin-linked death spinner. The only reason I can imagine for that is the re-roll wounds.

**shade1313**

Skinnereal wrote:
Do_I_Not_Like_That wrote:
Sorry if this has been asked before (can't be done with shifting through 120+ pages) but what news of the Dire Avengers? Given that they're 5 for £20/$35 are they a vastly improved, kick ass unit capable of knocking out a Leman Russ just by looking at it, or is this a typical GW crank up the price tactic?

Looking at the box and description, you get 1 of the normal 2 body/legs sprues, and the Exarch sprue.
So, it's half the bodies, but 2/3 of the amount of plastic.

You get exactly half of what you used to. Used to be 2x of the two Dire Avenger sprues which are pictured on GW's site. Now, just 1x of each sprue. They haven't been recut, just halved.

**Kroothawk**

MRPYM wrote:
midget_overlord wrote:
MRPYM wrote:
I did not see this so:
http://faeit.blogspot.ca/2013/05/pictures-of-eldar-content-are-out.html

You must play orks then? Or maybe necrons?

What do you mean? I play eldar.

Then you are one of the few Eldar players not checking the GW website (or the first post of this thread) for prerelease pics that are up 4 days now. Even the thread title should have given you a hint

**Quark**

I am amused at the number of sites taking GW site, White Dwarf, and Codex: Eldar sample (on iPad already, where BOK's pictures came from) info and not sourcing them properly.

The iPad sample is also where we learned of the Bladestorm rule on Shuriken weapons (thanks to the Vyper entry), but BOK missed that one!

**KaiyaA**

I know this has probably been known for a while but I saw something about Eldrad having psychic mastery level 4. Does this mean 4 psychic powers per turn?

**Nocturnus**

Carthuun wrote:
So based off the information on Warp Spiders here:

http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2013/05/27/rumor-it-eldar-rules-stuff/

I'm going to say that Warp Spiders are getting their flamer templates back. Why? Because the Exarch can take a twin-linked death spinner. The only reason I can imagine for that is the re-roll wounds.

Maybe they just changed it from assault 4 to twin linked...

Automatically Appended Next Post:

KaiyaA wrote:
I know this has probably been known for a while but I saw something about Eldrad having psychic mastery level 4. Does this mean 4 psychic powers per turn?

Yep.

**KaiyaA**

Automatically Appended Next Post:

KaiyaA wrote:
I know this has probably been known for a while but I saw something about Eldrad having psychic mastery level 4. Does this mean 4 psychic powers per turn?

Yep.

**pizzaguardian**

with ahriman being 4 and the abilty to get mastery 3 sorcerers quite easily and cheaply on the csm book, i was expecting for the eldar farseers to be 1 higher(so eldrad 5 and such)

**Carthuun**

Nocturnus wrote:
Carthuun wrote:
So based off the information on Warp Spiders here:

http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2013/05/27/rumor-it-eldar-rules-stuff/

I'm going to say that Warp Spiders are getting their flamer templates back. Why? Because the Exarch can take a twin-linked death spinner. The only reason I can imagine for that is the re-roll wounds.

Maybe they just changed it from assault 4 to twin linked...

Perhaps, it could just simply be twin-linked but that seems like a silly 5 point upgrade for a unit that is BS 5. (not to say GW isn't in to silly things).

**Brother Weasel**

Originally Posted by Souba (on BOLS)

believe me or not but i got the book, however i dont have much time right now so i leave a few things here:

eldar warlord traits:
1. one use only. in the own shooting or assault phase, the warlord and all allies within 12" reroll failed to wound rolls of 1.
2. one use only. in the enemys shooting phase. the warlord and all allies within 12" gain the stealth usr.
3. the warlord and his unit add +1 to their run movement (so d6 + 1)
4. the warlord rerolls failed saves of 1.
5. the warlord got the split fire usr
6. allied eldar units deepstriking within 6" around the warlord dont scatter.

exarch abilites. some are USR some are codex specific:

fear, monsterhunter, night vision, feel no pain, hit & run.

sniper vision : the exarch has precision shots on a 5+

iron resolve: the exarch has +1 LD

disarm: in a challenge before striking blows, the exarch player and the enemy both roll a d6. if the exarch player rolls equal or higher than the enemy the enemys weapon counts as a normal close combat weapon instead.
if the WS of the exarch is higher than the enemy, you add +1 to your D6 roll.

fire hail (may be spelled wrong i translate here): the exarch may fire his weapon 1 more time than normal. has no use on flamers.

assassin: in a challenge, the exarch and his enemy both roll a D6. if equal or higher the exarch may reroll failed to wound rolls. if the initiative of the exarch is higher than the opponents, he adds +1 to his roll.

shield of grace: in a challenge, instead of attacking the exarch has a 3+ invulnerable save.

battle luck : 4+ invul for the exarch

crushing blow : +1 S for the exarch.

whats interessting is : the avatar can get exarch powers. so pretty fun

army special rules :

old nemesis : hatred (daemons of slaanesh and enemys with the mark of slaanesh) also they have -1 on their LD when doing fear tests against daemons of slaanesh and enemys with the mark of slaanesh

battletrance: the unit may run and shoot or shoot and run. you have to run& shoot or shoot& run with each unit before you can move the next unit. models cannot run & shoot or shoot & run with heavy weapons unless they got the relentless special rule.

vehicle equipment:

mindbreaker: every enemy and friendly unit within 12" has to reroll passed lmorale and pinning tests.

ghostpath matrix: the vehicle gets the move through cover USR

holofield: the vehicle grants +1 on its cover save if it has moved.

forcefield : 5+ invul

crystal targeting matrix: one use only. the vehicle (except walkers) can fire a weapon at full BS even if it has moved with cruising speed.

soulstones: the vehicle ignores crew shaken on 2+ and crew stunned on 4+

serpent shield: as long as the shield is active, every penetrating hit on the front and side armor of a vehicle is a glance on a d6 roll of 2+
the shield may be deactivated to grant a following shooting attack :
60" s 7 ap - assault d6+1, ignores cover, pinning.

star engine: a vehicle that is no walker can move 24" with cruising speed. a walker runs +3"

vector engine: as long as the vehicle isnt immobilized, the vehicle can turn after shooting.

thats it for now. will post some more later.

**KaiyaA**

pizzaguardian wrote:
with ahriman being 4 and the abilty to get mastery 3 sorcerers quite easily and cheaply on the csm book, i was expecting for the eldar farseers to be 1 higher(so eldrad 5 and such)

I thought we were doing well with 3 (I'm kinda a noob) So any increase to me is great!

**Magc8Ball**

crystal targeting matrix: one use only. the vehicle (except walkers) can fire a weapon at full BS even if it has moved with cruising speed.

Erm, can't Fast Skimmers already move cruising speed (12") and fire two weapons at full BS?

Big red flag for this claimed post.

**Hulksmash**

If the Serpent shield thing is true then Wave Serpents just got ugly for delivering short ranged fire power. Interesting stuff if it's legit.

@Magic8Ball

But Falcons can have 3 weapons. So it's not a total outlandish upgrade.