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I agree that the Prism is a great Tank.
The new Falcon isn't so bad either when taken with a Scatter Laser and Shuriken Cannon.

So Warlocks are distributed before powers are selected: is this where we landed on this? Out of town for 3 weeks in a row here and can't really follow the thread closely.

If so, pretty lame. Only thing that really would have made Banshee's viable is the 3+" to run from the lock and exarch stacking, and I'm not even sure they do. Otherwise, I can't think of a single possible use for banshee's as is.

 BlueDagger wrote:
Incase it hasn't been mentioned there is inconsistancies with images floating online and the physical codex. Sadly Doom does state "failed" to wound.

The images are all of the reference page at the back, which as we all know paraphrases everything to make it fit.

 Dash2021 wrote:
So Warlocks are distributed before powers are selected: is this where we landed on this? Out of town for 3 weeks in a row here and can't really follow the thread closely.

If so, pretty lame. Only thing that really would have made Banshee's viable is the 3+" to run from the lock and exarch stacking, and I'm not even sure they do. Otherwise, I can't think of a single possible use for banshee's as is.

From what I understand warlocks are not distributed any more- they form their own unit and can't; join other units

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Dash2021 wrote:
So Warlocks are distributed before powers are selected: is this where we landed on this? Out of town for 3 weeks in a row here and can't really follow the thread closely.

If so, pretty lame. Only thing that really would have made Banshee's viable is the 3+" to run from the lock and exarch stacking, and I'm not even sure they do. Otherwise, I can't think of a single possible use for banshee's as is.

From what I understand warlocks are not distributed any more- they form their own unit and can't; join other units

You understand incorrectly. They're the equivalent of Wolf Guard or the Royal Court now.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Dash2021 wrote:
So Warlocks are distributed before powers are selected: is this where we landed on this? Out of town for 3 weeks in a row here and can't really follow the thread closely.

If so, pretty lame. Only thing that really would have made Banshee's viable is the 3+" to run from the lock and exarch stacking, and I'm not even sure they do. Otherwise, I can't think of a single possible use for banshee's as is.

From what I understand warlocks are not distributed any more- they form their own unit and can't; join other units

Incorrect. They can join Defender and Storm Guardians, Jetbikes and Support Weapon batteries.

 Dash2021 wrote:
So Warlocks are distributed before powers are selected: is this where we landed on this? Out of town for 3 weeks in a row here and can't really follow the thread closely.

If so, pretty lame. Only thing that really would have made Banshee's viable is the 3+" to run from the lock and exarch stacking, and I'm not even sure they do. Otherwise, I can't think of a single possible use for banshee's as is.

there isn't one.

 Vaktathi wrote:

 Dash2021 wrote:
So Warlocks are distributed before powers are selected: is this where we landed on this? Out of town for 3 weeks in a row here and can't really follow the thread closely.

If so, pretty lame. Only thing that really would have made Banshee's viable is the 3+" to run from the lock and exarch stacking, and I'm not even sure they do. Otherwise, I can't think of a single possible use for banshee's as is.

there isn't one.

Nonsense.


















They're a handicap unit for when you're playing against young kids.

Sad panda. Just found the lock entry and noted they are indeed locked into guardian based units. Banshee's remain unpainted, unused and unloved in 6th. Not a giant Ward fan, but I guess we'll have to hope he makes the Biel'tan suplement as well so that they gain something that makes them useful. Till then they are just the poor cousins of quins and scorpions.

However, Scorpions are bananas now. I6 ap2 S8 claw? Yes please. If Kandras remains the beat stick he was in the last codex, I see this unit finding a home in some lists.

I'm still giddy at the fact Windriders can move 12", let rip then move up to 24" turbo boosting, whilst picking up a 3+ cover save. I had to go check the rules twice to be sure that was even legal.

Shining Spears just got very nasty as well with their boosted numbers. Warp Spiders are going to be all kinds of nasty for high T low I units in general (Tau Suits, Nid MC's, etc).

Rumors threads usually dont last this long after a codex release...

Agreed, codex is out, this thread should be closed...

Well, we still don't know exactly what's in the Iyanden book...

Speaking of Iyanden, and things in their theme, I note that the pilot for the Hemlock has a simplified Spiritseer helmet. It appears that it would fit in place of the new plastic Farseer's head. Could make a decent second Spiritseer to provide some variety beyond the Finecast SS, if you wanted to run two. Or if you just didn't want to use the Finecast one, I suppose.

 Enigma wrote:

Probably they made it use T instead of Armour as it's far too easy to wreck vehicles in this ed.... and then it wouldn't sell -.-

But I agree, the knight should probably fall under the vehicle category.

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Yes, they are super heavy walkers... It feels as if we should get a new class of vehicle to represent these weird almost titans. like super-heavy light walker

There already is a class for super heavy walkers. They are called knights. They have been around in Epic nearly forever, this is just the first time we have seen them in official 40K scale rules.

IMO GW should have never adopted the AV vehicle armor system. If everything was Toughness and Wounds they would not have this weird dichotomy between MCs and vehicles that are functionally similar (Wraithlord and War Walker for example). All they needed to do was to extend the Strength and Toughness stats past 10. Compare the die rolls needed to penetrate with the die rolls need to wound:

AV14 = T11
AV13 = T10
AV12 = T9
AV11 = T8
AV10 = T7

Add 3 to Toughness to get AV or subtract three from AV to get equivalent Toughness
AV10 = T7

T

You'd also have to throw on some anti poison so your vehicles don't get poisoned to death.

Slayer222 wrote:
You'd also have to throw on some anti poison so your vehicles don't get poisoned to death.

"All 'vehicle class' targets are immune to poison."

If you wanted to keep the glance mechanism:
"Any result one less than the die result needed to wound causes a glance on 'vehicle class' targets."

Does anyone by chance have a comparison shot of the knight next to the other eldar titans?

Fun fact:
GW goes a step further than Mantic and puts the pic of a broken miniature on their display box (thanks to cpl_hicks over at Warseer for finding this):

Well that's embarrassing.

They had been putting on crooked lightning claw pics on sternguard upgrade pack for months now.

Neither unexpected nor diassapointed.

Isn't there still an upside-down heavy bolter on one of the Leman Russ kits too?

There's also:


Notice how straight the fourth laser lance is... Resin at its best.

 Morachi wrote:
I'm still giddy at the fact Windriders can move 12", let rip then move up to 24" turbo boosting, whilst picking up a 3+ cover save. I had to go check the rules twice to be sure that was even legal.

Shining Spears just got very nasty as well with their boosted numbers. Warp Spiders are going to be all kinds of nasty for high T low I units in general (Tau Suits, Nid MC's, etc).

I thought battle focus specifically stated "Run". Does it also state Turbo Boosting?

 Shandara wrote:
There's also:


Notice how straight the fourth laser lance is... Resin at its best.

Just a different angle. Others from top, that one from side. Step back from the ledge...

 ClassicCarraway wrote:

 Morachi wrote:
I'm still giddy at the fact Windriders can move 12", let rip then move up to 24" turbo boosting, whilst picking up a 3+ cover save. I had to go check the rules twice to be sure that was even legal.

Shining Spears just got very nasty as well with their boosted numbers. Warp Spiders are going to be all kinds of nasty for high T low I units in general (Tau Suits, Nid MC's, etc).

I thought battle focus specifically stated "Run". Does it also state Turbo Boosting?

It does specifically say run, and not turbo boost, so someone is going to have to check the rules a third time.

 Dash2021 wrote:
Sad panda. Just found the lock entry and noted they are indeed locked into guardian based units. Banshee's remain unpainted, unused and unloved in 6th. Not a giant Ward fan, but I guess we'll have to hope he makes the Biel'tan suplement as well so that they gain something that makes them useful. Till then they are just the poor cousins of quins and scorpions.

However, Scorpions are bananas now. I6 ap2 S8 claw? Yes please. If Kandras remains the beat stick he was in the last codex, I see this unit finding a home in some lists.

S7. Multiply before addition.

 mjl7atlas wrote:
Does anyone by chance have a comparison shot of the knight next to the other eldar titans?

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=470026213083776&set=a.179330538820013.45795.114192078667193&type=1&theater

The oval base turned like that with the outstretched hand makes the WK look like its surfing

 Byte wrote:

 Shandara wrote:
There's also:

Notice how straight the fourth laser lance is... Resin at its best.

Just a different angle. Others from top, that one from side. Step back from the ledge...

I really don't think it's supposed to bend that way...

MajorWesJanson wrote:

 Dash2021 wrote:
Sad panda. Just found the lock entry and noted they are indeed locked into guardian based units. Banshee's remain unpainted, unused and unloved in 6th. Not a giant Ward fan, but I guess we'll have to hope he makes the Biel'tan suplement as well so that they gain something that makes them useful. Till then they are just the poor cousins of quins and scorpions.

However, Scorpions are bananas now. I6 ap2 S8 claw? Yes please. If Kandras remains the beat stick he was in the last codex, I see this unit finding a home in some lists.

S7. Multiply before addition.

Actually S6. different weapons = choose one profile. You'd get an extra attack though, the claw not being a specialist weapon.