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There you go =)

One big question for a train then is scale. If seats are removed then a train would be 2-3" wide unless its a wide seater. a 28mm figure with a 1" base translates to a 170cm person with a 150cm diameter base. or a 5ft diameter base. What do you guys think is the largest reasonable train size. Yea a train may be a little absurd for casting costs.

I'm not thinking the inside at all. Sort of like the cars. It's just the outside. Something to shoot around and over.

 CDK wrote:
What about a high speed train or some sort of futuristic public transport? That stuff makes great terrain. I'd be into that too.

I think we like the non weaponized mainly because one there's not vehicle rules in Infinity right now and they are a bit beyond the scope of play.

That and the idea that Infinity doesn't represent the "frontline" of the wars that are occurring in the Human Sphere, but rather we're playing the "black" operations on frontier worlds or heavily civilized metropolis are what make me less interested in military vehicles rather than civilian vehicles.

That's exactly how I see it and love it too!

And as Kan said, that's why I'd rather have more civilian vehicles than not - it allows us to place these things in normal non-blown up cities of the future!

Yea, that was my original thought when I started this. I started it for my UFO invasion game but soon realized that futuristic non tanks were hard to come by. On TMP, it seemed people were more interested in armed vehicles but as you point out I think most of you and I are envisioning a much cleaner city environment, not the frontlines. Some crime syndicates or whatever may arm them, but they are civilian first and foremost.

I have now painted 3 of the 4 models I had 3d printed.... I love these little guys, Ill post a picture soon.
I also have two more on order.

My next question would be, of the models shown (number them 1-9 in order of when they were shown as a 3d render) which are you most interested in.
Im thinking the 1, 2, 8 may be the most easily accepted but if a kickstarter does go its useful to have a batch that establishes the primary goal and then use the less popular as the stretch (or so I naively think)

Alternatively, Ive been contemplating the kickstarter vs just getting a single run of one or two models done (kickstarter and amazon together take about 10% off the top). I may model up a couple more but I think this is a good assortment of semi generic civilian futuristic vehicles. (those that remain are 1 or two more mid performance vehicles, and possibly a train if I can figure out a decent modular design that is cheap'ish to cast in a single mold.

I still need to send a couple of the models to the caster to get a formal quote on lower and upper end costs and suggestions for how to part the models for casting (I meant to do this before painting but... well its an addiction)

Which one is #8? There are only seven vehicles in the original post's render.

Personally, I like anything with wheels.

Hover vehicles are cool and all, but a bit to Jetsons-excessive for my tastes.

I felt that the most recent "Syndicate" game definitely had some Infinity vibes going on.

Example I found digging around on the web:



The artist's name is "Bradley Wright" and he did a ton of design work for the game.

Yeah, I'm confused too - if you post the pics again, numbered this time, maybe in a poll too, with multiple vote options...?

Also, Kan - VERY nice 'inspiration' pics there!

Wow those are some great images, I agree they are very similar in style to Infinity. I love the sedgeway-pram, Atropos907 please make one of those!


Atropos907, in answer to your query am I allowed to say I like all of them?

If forced to choose, I would probably say number 1, 4, and the family podule thing that is posted later on the first page.

A sedgeway stroller. Also called the bad parent!. Oops I forgot to charge the stroller and so it fell crushing my baby. Bad sedgeway bad!

Interesting,I haven't played the third syndicate, but it appears the kept the same ground vehicles from the original with minimal modification.

Also I just modified the earlier images to include numbers and preliminary names.

A quick photo of the painted minis next to a couple random civian and UFO:IRF forces.

Well here is a Clawed Viper, and an armored Train. I figured this, though less civi, is more the kind of train that would be robbed as its government or carying expensive sensitive cargo. The train is designed to mate with itself to make a longer train, but each has its own small engine to propel it so that a single attack on the engine section cannot render the train helpless.
My thought was this train can be configured as a monorail, wide track, or even drive on highways of sufficient flatness.

And itll be a while till I get that sucker 3d printed. ..

Very cool! That looks pretty sweet.

Yep, these are very very nice
Keep up the good work !
So, when is the kickstarter starting ?

 atropos907 wrote:
Im rather surprised more people are interested in non militarized vehicles.
in that vein, two more, the first, pure civilian sci-fi classic (a simple family pod) , the second easily convertible to a heavy weapon carrier.

The famipod is nice, but I'd not buy it... The second vehicle thou, I realy like! I'll take 5, if that's OK with you?

Armored train - YES!

That would be something I'd really be interested in.

As would, I think, a lot of other people, as I think there's a 'train mission' in the new book?

I remember Carlos saying there is one in an interview with BoW.

He says it in the video above.

 Von Skyfury wrote:

So, when is the kickstarter starting ?

1. Im not done modeling. I want enough of a range so that if by some miracle it gets over funded I can potentially get runs of say the train or larger models to be addable as stretch. And a couple more weapon options but thats secondary. Probably 2 more models and call the set done.
2. Im still not 100% sold on kickstarter vs just doing a slower series of I fund a limited run, if I recoup then I fund another run of the next most popular vehicle. Part of this hesitation is due to
2. a Im not sure there is enough interest to actually successfully fund a kickstarter for the whole batch--thus making bigger/less popular vehicles stretch goals
2.b always remember kicstarter and amazon take out 5% + 3-6%(depending on donation level and country) plus shipping and all that jazz blah bla, whine whine... there are just a lot of logistics Ive been working out.
2c. trying to find the right caster. spin casting smaller models in pewter seems ideal, but the larger ones almost have to be resin, which make their individual prices higher especially in small runs. costs for the larger vehicles {#4 and beyond} (3d master, detail/smooth the master, mold and cast to resin master, then sale casts and replacement molds for every X cast, then divide all those costs by number produced to get the effective whosale price+ snafu buffer10%) That is rather pricey. For something like the train its absurdly pricey. Im looking into seeing of someone who does terrain casting may be able to do the train cheaper.
3. I have another set of 3d pints coming with changes made based on lessons learned with the last batch to make most of them more castable.

So, Id love to move this forward faster but I want to do it right. If you know any good casters please PM me.

Have you heard about Anvil Industries? Great quality caster, and AFAIK he has been doing stuff for some other component producers.

Seconded on Anvil Industries - they do great work and their recent "Miniatures of the North" brand of miniatures seem to indicate that they play well with others!

Something you might want to do for the train is to have a "Track" for it as well. Maybe made so it can both be on the ground and with elevated supports.

You can see here how we used some toy train supports for the pipes.

I like that!

Where's the supports come from?

(Or have I already asked this question?)

Not sure. Some toy train my buddies kids has. One thing I'd like to find is clear round pipe for doing something like out of Logan's Run.

I'm going to plasticard up a train from some templates I have which are based on one of my local train services (The originals were intended as cardboard "money boxes" (they have slots in the top) that are given out at various PR events here, like the annual "Steamfest")

I'll see about scanning them - as they are a very close scale for Infinity.

Ok, Con is over, The UFO invasion game went great, now back to pretties!
I was thinking more about the possiblity of a kickstarter and came to the conclusion that, if its to have a prayer it needs more small'ish things that can be spin-cast for lower tier rewards.
So along those lines Ive also been parting some of the bigger models to make them, or at least parts of them spinable.

I also made a couple new models.
First the ever common crotch rocket.

Next, as requested, a baby stroller. The more I thought about this the more I loved the idea. Its a futuristic mono-wheel with no handles (because future parents are dumb enough to completely trust this things gyro's not to kill their baby) and a canopy. Good tread for jogging through the woods with your baby. I recommend strict punishments against anyone harming the baby stroller in game. However, you have to watch out for the other side say... buying a baby stroller, sticking a bomb inside, then setting its auto-pilot to :"go out of controller" Oh Help My Baby, Please Stop my Baby!!! toward the other side then BOOM. A nasty catch 22 for games. Not sure If I want to make this thing parted so the canopy can open or not.

Finally a lineup of the smaller vehicles.

Any other suggestions for small'ish Traffic hazards in games?

Those are really, really awesome.

Another smallish, useful vehicle would be a utility vehicle of some sort. A mini-garbage-truck, a robotic street sweeper, a pickup-truck model... those would all be great things to populate an urban setting.

As for street hazards: modelling some charging-stations or hydrogen pumps would be great.

*cough*
Warthog
*cough*

Ugh, what a tickle in my throat...

I would get 5 warthogs
But they wouldn't fit with the style of these other vehicules

But yeah, I would get 10 warthogs =P

Kan has a rather unhealthy fascination with Halo...