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I expect this to break 1 mil, so no worries.

DaveC wrote:
New pledge wheel is up


Disappointed that the SDE minis are $30k jumps but Boost EX2 at $450k!

Hoping for Sophia Drake or some Black Dragons and Warlord Mamaro-To at Boost EX2

$460K. An extra $10K.

I'm with you in that these are less exciting than the previous stretch goals. Hoping for Sophia Drake AND Black Dragons.

The Kickstarter is almost at the $380k mark. Then it's 20k > 30k > 30k spacing for the stretch goals. There's some neat stuff in the PDF rules that they could turn into actual models and I'm sure there's a ton of stuff we haven't seen.

Base inserts are meh. Let's get that KS to $460k and beyond for some sweet, sweet SPM goodness.

No way is this one breaking a million!

They miscalculated at the beginning, and then Gencon took up their time, and it took them too long to 'recover' the necessary momentum.

In my opinion of course!

The SDE stretch goals are also completely uninspiring - especially as they are 'add $x to get one' type of goals.

I'm just hoping we make it to EX2 Boosts, which shouldn't be a problem.

I don't think this one beats Sedition Wars, and it may not even seriously challenge Zombicide - and that's no knock on Relic Knights!

I like this one a lot - but it didn't start out on the right foot, and it doesn't have the 'mass appeal' of Zombies or Mike McVey.

 Alpharius wrote:
I like this one a lot - but it didn't start out on the right foot, and it doesn't have the 'mass appeal' of Zombies or Mike McVey.

I'd say the Anime/Manga angle is still greatly appealing to miniature enthusiasts. But the new stretch goals seem tacked on rather than thought out. I believe the lackluster rewards and the "Give us more money to unlock the chance to pay for more stuff" nature of some of those stretch goals is going to hurt this Kickstarter more greatly than any mistakes made at it's launch.

Edit:

Looking at kicktraq it's entirely feasible that the Soda Pop Miniature crew is expecting it to cash out at around $500k and are planning goals/rewards accordingly. I'm fairly sure it'll exceed that mark, though.

I'm excited

but i'd have liked to see at least a sketch of the last base inserts before going for new ones!


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anybody fancy speculating about the Boost Ex2

what will get boosted

the starter
the option
the SE figures (not likely but ?)
the SDE Chibi's (would cause joy & rage in equal amounts)

What will it be

new characters, we've seen art for 3 of them
the optional head/arms for the minions they were looking into

I'm honestly getting lost in some of these so called "Strech goals".

The SDE thing has me completly cornfused. Chibi headed Relic Knights, Relic Knighted Chibi heads? What exactly are these looking like?

That so called "goal" needs something a little more then a cutesy story referring SDE to this as part of thier world.

Not so much excited at this as I am about the sets of 100+ dollars worth of minis in this KS project.


SDE has no place here, and thats coming from a fan of the game. Not so much of a but this did nothing to me but mess with what they are exactly talking about.

Want to really impress me, sell me some extra body parts, so I can upgrade my heads, and full frontal busts.

Enquiring minds want to know if we are going to get to see some more nekked robot jocketts.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I'm excited

but i'd have liked to see at least a sketch of the last base inserts before going for new ones!


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anybody fancy speculating about the Boost Ex2
what will get boosted

the starter
the option
the SE figures (not likely but ?)
the SDE Chibi's (would cause joy & rage in equal amounts)

What will it be

new characters, we've seen art for 3 of them
the optional head/arms for the minions they were looking into

It'll be the promo minis from the Tentacle Bento Game.
You know how in Relic Knight land SDE is a very popular past time/video game.
Tentacle Bento will be their version of MTG.

Grot 6 wrote:Want to really impress me, sell me some extra body parts, so I can upgrade my heads, and full frontal busts.

Enquiring minds want to know if we are going to get to see some more nekked robot jocketts.

I think alternate heads, bodies, or arm/weapon options would be excellent incentives (or hell just throw ins) to the starter troop/minions. I'm gonna have 6 Hel's Bels bikers that're all gonna look the same. =(...

The extra heads and weapons will already be included with the minions according to CMON earlier posts

DaveC wrote:
The extra heads and weapons will already be included with the minions according to CMON earlier posts

Then they really need to centralize their posts so people know exactly what they're getting. If you're listening CMON/SodaPop, let people know what they're getting. I don't got a problem hearing it from a forum mate, but it's just a rumor till I see it from you. Update and build up your FAQs and central area dammit.

I have to say, I don't think I'm confused by the layout personally, but this has to be an example of how to NOT run a Kickstarter.

I'm pledging, make no mistake, but the Kickstarter page has not been stellar at all. Communication is bad, updates come infrequently, the boosts have been uninspiring and somewhat odd, the graphic layout causes issues. I don't know who is putting it together for Soda Pop, but they need new management on this kind of thing.

Other companies out there should study the evolution of this Kickstarter campaign and learn from the mistakes. You have to entice the fans, give them rewards, keep in touch on on top of the movement.

Again, I'm no unhappy about the pledges and what's being given. Its a good deal and I hope the game is fun and Soda Pop continues to support it. But this is just a mess.

Enquiring minds want to know if we are going to get to see some more nekked robot jocketts. :wow

Grot you just made me feel old as i remember watching that movie as a kid. Btw she only ever showed the rear and back to topic i am not.impressed with the.stretch goals.but then again i am not wanting any more models as savior plus the extra $35 for the NoH hunter i am strapped on models.

I think it's just a complicated KS

It's not a box game you can just add to, it's a skirmish game with 6 factions

I think the boosts have been good (except the invisible base inserts, I like to see concept art at the very least),

people may not have liked them all, but it's the same 6 faction problem.

Either you set out stuff one at a time with small stretches & many folk will not want some of it, or you set out stuff for all 6 factions at once and have to bridge a huge stretch early on (bad idea)

The SDE is more of a leap of faith, but I think it will bring in more pledges (it certainly hasn't slowed progress today)

But having goals updated more swiftly would have been much better. This has been a real problem

I guess it shows don't run a KS when you are going to conventions or indeed shipping another KS, no matter what synergy you think it will bring. You'll be too busy or distracted to stay on top of things

 MightyGodzilla wrote:

DaveC wrote:
The extra heads and weapons will already be included with the minions according to CMON earlier posts

Then they really need to centralize their posts so people know exactly what they're getting. If you're listening CMON/SodaPop, let people know what they're getting. I don't got a problem hearing it from a forum mate, but it's just a rumor till I see it from you. Update and build up your FAQs and central area dammit.

It's in the FAQ

Are the Minions multipart?
Most of the minion models are multipart allowing for some limited customization from trooper to trooper. Where able we are also working on additional options such as variable heads to make allow even more choice.

DaveC wrote:

It's in the FAQ

Are the Minions multipart?
Most of the minion models are multipart allowing for some limited customization from trooper to trooper. Where able we are also working on additional options such as variable heads to make allow even more choice.

Yeah I read that part earlier this week. But you can't catalogue exactly what those options are and for which mini (yet) because the source hasn't even fleshed that out yet .

I actually had a paragraph of ****ing that I'm not going to post. Instead I'll a little more diligent in checking out the Central page, the FAQ, and the Update Page.....I do draw the line at sifting through the comments section. I will say quickly that I didn't have as hard of a time spending my money during the Reaper KS, and I felt that Sedition Wars backers were a little more informed than the RK backers are now.


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I also just noticed that this KS bumps up the costs of its rewards level to reward the early (or penalizes the fence sitters like me - if you're the glass half empty type).

Double Savior $180 sold out, now there's a Double Savior $190. Very crafty. Actually its an uncalled for, greedy b!tch move on their part. But it's only $10. So if you're on the fench you may want to speed up those calculations and pledge.

 MightyGodzilla wrote:

I also just noticed that this KS bumps up the costs of its rewards level to reward the early (or penalizes the fence sitters like me - if you're the glass half empty type).

Double Savior $180 sold out, now there's a Double Savior $190. Very crafty. Actually its an uncalled for, greedy b!tch move on their part. But it's only $10. So if you're on the fench you may want to speed up those calculations and pledge.

No penalty there Double Savior costs $190 this will not change they won't suddenly lock it off and then say DS is now $200. CMON offered a $10 discount as an early bird special to the first 50 backers at this level they sold it within 6 hours on day one Mantic have also done the same thing for Dreadball.

I agree that communication has been pretty bad on this KS some updates have taken 5 or 6 hours to make and questions that are continually raised are left unanswered while those that are you need to keep asking them to FAQ the answer. It's a complex KS having to track 6 factions and all their associated extras and boosts.

Do we have any idea what the Relic Knight miniatures will retail for once the Kickstarter is over and everything's plastic? I can't see them keeping the same price point.

They are already retail search warstore or go to the spdapop site.

 BlueDagger wrote:
They are already retail search warstore or go to the spdapop site.

Those are metal miniatures. I'm asking about the plastic ones. What will the plastic versions of the miniatures retail for? Or are you telling me the price will remain the same?

Have they noted the size of the battlemat yet?

 Alpharius wrote:
Have they noted the size of the battlemat yet?

It's 3x3 ft

Dentry wrote:
Do we have any idea what the Relic Knight miniatures will retail for once the Kickstarter is over and everything's plastic? I can't see them keeping the same price point.

I can check with cmon as I have a retailer account with them.

"We're getting this printed on rubberized fabric (basically a gigantic mouse pad), and this lovely, easily stored piece of flat terrain can be yours for the low price of $20! (add +$15 for international shipping, it's heavy as !@#)."

This update does not do this thing any favors. IMO, this sounds like an added.... expense, and doesn't seem all to needed. (A 35 dollar mousepad?)

I'll go on out there and say that I'll be making a board based on some ANIME themed stuff from a cartoon, or something. To me, this is just screaming jump off the top deck and into someones face, while I do a 360 degree spin and end up on the wall or something.

Then there are those clear and colored plastic crystal models, mmmm......


As a side question, Are there any other companies out there doing 3d anime 25-32 mm figures that could go along with this game?

I'm starting to have some.... issues... with the attitude that this KS is starting to evolve as they begin to show thier hindquarters in public here, as well as some of the more rabid of the commenters are really not doing them any favors.

 Empchild wrote:

Dentry wrote:
Do we have any idea what the Relic Knight miniatures will retail for once the Kickstarter is over and everything's plastic? I can't see them keeping the same price point.

I can check with cmon as I have a retailer account with them.

I'm sure many of us would be interested in that information if you can obtain it. Thanks!

Something else came to mind. I don't plan on pledging more than $270 at most, but of those that pledged $3,000 or more are the figures made of them going to be general release? Basically, can I buy one? Or is it unique and only given to that person for pledging?

I'm not getting the battlemat as I'm primarily in this for painting pieces

but if I was playing I'd jump on it, despite the shipping (which I understand being high because of the weight). If I was in the US I might grab it just to display the painted figures on

It's just what folk asked for at the beginning of the campain, and will really help folk who dont have or make terrain.

As to prices after the KS it sounds like the starter boxes will probably be $75+, but prices havn't been finalised.

and while plastic is cheaped to make did 40K stuff get much cheaper when it went plastic ? or for that matter are the new plastic Malifaux models much cheaper than the older metals ?

My guess is the single figures in plastic will be a little cheaper than the existing metal/resin, but not dramatically so (they will be FAR easier to put together though)

 Grot 6 wrote:

Then there are those clear and colored plastic crystal models, mmmm......

As a side question, Are there any other companies out there doing 3d anime 25-32 mm figures that could go along with this game?

The somewhat obvious choice might be Anima Tactics?

Though I don't know how well they'd scale with Relic Knights.

Um... Infinity?

MMM... Infinity......


Second and third starter sets..... MMMmmmmm.........

I think Infinity miniatures won't mesh well with RK - AT will be a closer fit.

AT mostly has fantasy characters, though. A few might fit in with Doctrine. Infinity could mesh with Cerci and Black Diamond at least.

I would go nuts if soda pop did a SUPER DUNGEON EXPLORE KS!!!!! with all the options, expansions and limited minis etc!!!!