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http://dl.dropbox.com/s/rivjn5x9n8or9id/AB40K6v1_21.ab?dl=1

http://dl.dropbox.com/s/s2qgy8zdkr2m616/AB40K6v1_23.ab?dl=1

Thank you.

This is much appreciated.

Yup, love you. In a 40k, skull and death sort of way.

 battlematt wrote:
Yup, love you. In a 40k, skull and death sort of way.

No xeno, bro. No xeno.

http://dl.dropbox.com/s/ocpfs3m6wyvzebd/AB40K6v1_25.ab?dl=1

And still no Iyanden.

 Arschbombe wrote:
And still no Iyanden.

So volunteer, and get to work on it.

Thank you to the updating team, who works on this for free and as a labor of love.

FYI

Army Builder 6th edition 40K rules v1.27 is out. UPDATED 8/26/13

http://dl.dropbox.com/s/xsdyc662ram3vtg/AB40K6v1_27.ab?dl=1

Someone please answer me how Black Templars now functions in AB. Will there be any updates?

It's usually 1 month+ before they include new books. We won't know till then how they do it.

This thread is just a link mirror for those who don't have auto updates.

All books for GW are min 1 month after release.

Lastly, if you have questions about the files themselves, the AB40K.org site is where to ask, since they make the files.

So any clue to when the update with the new Codex" Space Marines is coming out?

 Anpu42 wrote:
So any clue to when the update with the new Codex" Space Marines is coming out?

I think the SM book is going to be quite difficult to put together for the AB team. The codex in effect has several different army lists, unlike the last codex where picking a specific character made your whole list different this time around it would almost be best for AB to go with Codex: Space Marines-Iron Hands and then Codex: Space Marines- Imperial Fists etc etc which is probably a lot more work. While it will make using the allies function chapter to chapter easier it will make the actual AB software more complex and larger on a certain level. I think the SM update may take a lot longer than normal.

We're at just under 2 months since the last update. I understand it's a lot of work, but even on their own site the writers have given no status update on where things stand.

While we all understand that it's volunteer work, this long wait has shed a bad image on AB when compared to things like Battlescribe.

Do we know why it is taking so long?
Can they just put it out as it is, if the units themselves are working?
I assume the hold-up is the chapter stuff. Telion cannot be put in an army led by Kantor any more, etc. Drop that, if it's taking time, and put in comments instead.

Usually:
a) someone on the dev team must buy the codex
b) they must have time to do stuff
c) they have to figure out how every option interacts
d) have to solve technical problems or find workarounds around AB limitations (of which there are many)

They may have decided to make a workable chapter tactics-based list instead of releasing something half-done and having to re-do it all.

It's free, I can wait.

And there were some anonymous posters on their dev board posting bugs like 'Why isn't it done yet?' basically, which does tend to demotivate people working for free.

 Shandara wrote:
Usually:
a) someone on the dev team must buy the codex
b) they must have time to do stuff
c) they have to figure out how every option interacts
d) have to solve technical problems or find workarounds around AB limitations (of which there are many)

They may have decided to make a workable chapter tactics-based list instead of releasing something half-done and having to re-do it all.

It's free, I can wait.

And there were some anonymous posters on their dev board posting bugs like 'Why isn't it done yet?' basically, which does tend to demotivate people working for free.

Lets add error checking and bug fixing to the list. The AB40K team has really stepped up their quality control over the last few month. In addition, the same team is currently working on the Horus Heresy Project and according to their forums were planing on releasing it at the same time as the Codex: Space Marines update.

I was not complaining, just wondering?

I have been eagerly checking their site and FB feed for a few weeks now. OverwatchCNC is spot on. The C:SM book seems deceptively simple at first (add a few units, tweak some stats). But the whole chapter tactics system is a MASSIVE change to how the AB file works. Because the choice of tactics does a lot of different things such as:

1. Unlocking access to certain units
2. Restricting access to certain special characters
3. Adds Special Rules to every unit

From what I know about how AB works, this is not an easy thing to code. That is the main reason it is taking so long. (That plus the usual 'its a volunteer effort' yadda yadda).

Everyone keeps saying AB is free. You can download the software for free but you are supposed to pay for a license. If you haven't paid, then it's pirated, and you certainly have no right to complain.

I like Lone Wolf products. I have used AB for many years. I contributed to the Realm Works kickstarter (which is now noticeably behind schedule, and about which the dev team has VERY CONSPICUOUSLY stopped communicating updates an entire month ago).

So it is with a heavy heart that I defend the right of myself and others to complain about a product that I paid for. I bought an AB license because I expect a timely release of new materials (a month or a bit more). If it's taking longer because of some difficulty, they should communicate that difficulty on their website instead of mocking anonymous for asking when the update will arrive.

Seriously, an anonymous asked where the SM codex was and instead of answering, they rudely referred the user to their FAQ page (which states the policy that they attempt to release new rules a month after GW publication). The only reason I was on the site was because I was curious about a release date. The message I take from this is that Lone Wolf's AB40k dev team thinks I am a shmuck for wanting to know when the release is scheduled.

There's no expected release date listed listed, and there's no legitimate explanation for the delay for a product I feel like I paid for (when I paid for the license). Sorry, I don't feel bad for Lone Wolf.

I feel compelled to point out that Lone Wolf don't have a 40K dev team, nor any other game system dev team as far as I know. They develop the software and the software alone, the data files are all community produced. It's a small point but an important distinction.

Yeah, not really worried about it. I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't also adapting the system to handle supplements since those seem to be coming out swift and hard lately.

Overall I easily get the $25 I paids worth of value out of the product. If it takes a little extra to set-up, it takes a little extra to set-up. No worries from me.

Ugin, as filbert pointed out, the AB40k Maintainers have completely unrelated to Lone Wolf. They are a bunch of unpaid volunteers who maintain the 40k files out of the goodness of their heart.

Lone Wolf does absolutely nothing to support the rulesets for AB. This is the only way they avoid getting sued by GW.

I understand the 40k dev team is volunteer, and I am grateful for their work. What I don't understand is their reticence to simply tell us what is going on, or give us some semblance of a release date.

Also, the excuses being proffered on behalf of the dev team are speculative. They're preparing for future supplements? They're delaying it because of HH? Those MIGHT be right (not that it would matter to me; they're both silly excuses), but they also MIGHT be wrong. We don't know, because the people on the inside aren't talking.

I'm not mad about the delay. I think it's a shame they won't tell us what's going on. I'll confess I'm also disappointed with the Realm Works delay, which has also gone unexplained, and certainly is the responsibility of Lone Wolf.

They said on their FB and forums that they are working on including HH and they said that the Chapter Tactics is an issue.

Not that I know how these things work, but is it easier to clone the list, one per chapter set, and only add the relevant units? List each chapter as a new army?
I know this isn't the place to be asking, but in case anyone from 40k dev drops by....

I can't believe that people who aren't getting paid won't give me timely updates on the free things they give me!

Bastards.

 Skinnereal wrote:
Not that I know how these things work, but is it easier to clone the list, one per chapter set, and only add the relevant units? List each chapter as a new army?
I know this isn't the place to be asking, but in case anyone from 40k dev drops by....

I'm betting the real trick is having two detachments with different chapters and then allying in another different chapter.

Wouldn't it be pretty simple to do the C:SM army list once, copy it ~6 times then make the minor individual adjustments for each chapter? Having logic inside a single C:SM list to account for all the chapters seems needlessly complicated. A slightly larger list of armies to choose from is not a problem imo. You would need to apply updates to multiple armies instead of one, but that would probably be substantially easier than applying updates to a single list with more complicated logic.

Not criticising them or their choices btw, just discussing... as I eagerly await the SM update ; p