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And it might be enough to fill in the blanks, until other factions have a core set and he can come around to fleshing older factions a bit more.

I'm kind of mixed on my opinions. I would like a complete Eisenkern alternative to an Imperial Guard force (right now, we're really only missing a flyer and a battle tank), but I also don't want Mark to "waste" time creating models that may not really have a place in the actual Iron Core game they are intended for. On the other hand, providing a complete alternative would allow more money to be rolling in to help fund the further development of the game and the models.

For the flyer, I'm planning to use this model:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1290/351677.page

For the battle tank, I think there could be lots of options. So, I think Mark should design other things once all the Eisenkern releases are done.

The Eisenkern still need a small walker, a medium tank, a flyer and some heavy artillery... Not to say I want to stop there mind you, but those would be the fist on my punch list to round out the faction.

Awesome! Although, I would argue you already have a "small" walker. 15mm scale, to be precise.

 RiTides wrote:
For the flyer, I'm planning to use this model:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/1290/351677.page

For the battle tank, I think there could be lots of options. So, I think Mark should design other things once all the Eisenkern releases are done.

Oh look! Something to add to my buy list!

As to the new update... bloody hell I should have added a box of Valkir to my list XD

Latest update is here (from this evening):

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dreamforge-games/something-wicked-this-way-comes-crusader-plastic-m/posts/368855?ref=email&show_token=c0a0b0f155425008

I have enough heavily armored space manz, so I didn't get these, but I think they look pretty good. It was a bit more of a risk to me how he would make the skirting removable, too, but he's definitely tried to tackle that.

All my stuff is Stages 1 and 3, I think these are Stage 2 right?

 RiTides wrote:
Latest update is here (from this evening):

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/dreamforge-games/something-wicked-this-way-comes-crusader-plastic-m/posts/368855?ref=email&show_token=c0a0b0f155425008

I have enough heavily armored space manz, so I didn't get these, but I think they look pretty good. It was a bit more of a risk to me how he would make the skirting removable, too, but he's definitely tried to tackle that.

All my stuff is Stages 1 and 3, I think these are Stage 2 right?

Stage 3 I think, I got the smaller kits of heavies (assault and support) and all my stuff is also 1&3. I think that varieties of leviathan make up phase 2.

It's funny, but looking at them, especially in the action poses, I honestly prefer the skirting.

I like them better with the skirting, but I also preferred the older design where the skirting came around the sides a bit more.

Gah, knew I should have stuck with the plan to get 60 basic valkir in addition to the 15 each assault and support. I like how you did the optional skirting Mark, they're looking great. I might have some with skirt for one role, and some without skirt for another roll (ie. assault vs support).

New backers only update showing another longer skirting option is up. Go vote in the comments! He must decide by Sunday morning PST.

I'd copy/paste but I'm on my phone...

 RiTides wrote:
New backers only update showing another longer skirting option is up. Go vote in the comments! He must decide by Sunday morning PST.

I'd copy/paste but I'm on my phone...

Please do not post a link to the survey... I would like the Backers to weigh in and not taint the results with those who did not pledge

gah is it on dreamforges forums? I haven't been getting email updates >.>

 Grundz wrote:
gah is it on dreamforges forums? I haven't been getting email updates >.>

Backer only update.. just to to the KS page and look at the latest update. Funny you mention the email... I no longer get an email either and I have my options set to receive all responses by email. I have to head there to check whenever possible.

Voted for the loincloth option as it looks really good. Thanks for making us all feel like part of the team!

I was an 'after the KS' backer - any way for me to vote?

I voted for the longer front and back options.

 Alpharius wrote:
I was an 'after the KS' backer - any way for me to vote?

PM'd you

Got it, and cast my vote already!

Thank you very much - you are, clearly, the definition of Excellent Customer Service!

First, Mark you're awesome.

Second, I voted pro-long skirt w/loin cloth. It'll create a great visual break in whatever armor color people choose since they'll have a complimenting color to use on the tabard.

Mark is awesome. I don't remember which I voted honestly. Both are incredible and I will be a very very happy man either way.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:
Mark is awesome. I don't remember which I voted honestly. Both are incredible and I will be a very very happy man either way.

+1 to this. I think I voted for the shorter one as it looked 'less 40k' to me.

But either way it happens I will be happy

I prefer the shorter version, A, but I figure that if I want it that bad, I can just shorten then longer ones, right?

I dont like the cloth bits at all...but I dont care for that kind of thing on scifi minis in general...However I am not pledged for any of them, so Im keeping out of the direct voting as to not skew the results.

I like the longer one for a bunch reasons, but this one in particular:

 Hulksmash wrote:

It'll create a great visual break in whatever armor color people choose since they'll have a complimenting color to use on the tabard.

That will help create some areas for color schemes and whatnots. Should work great!

I didn't go in for any of the heavies, so didn't vote but I like the loincloth and longer back alot better than the skirt and codpiece. Looks more elegant and more opportunity for some neat paintwork without being fiddly. Good place to demarcate faction/squads/clans/whatever.

 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I prefer the shorter version, A, but I figure that if I want it that bad, I can just shorten then longer ones, right?

I went for the longer one for exactly that reason. I figure I can cut it down, reshape it, or cut them off entirely a la carte.

I like the longer ones on the back but the shorter ones on the front. I think the long fronts might look good on the assault versions though. I didn't order any though so I'm not voting.

 Andrew1975 wrote:
I like the longer ones on the back but the shorter ones on the front.

You mullet lover you!

I wish there was some way that we could get both types on the sprue. Doesn't look like it's able to happen, though...