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 Zweischneid wrote:
Perhaps. But they could've simply announced Dystopian Legions as 30mm or even 35mm game.

If annouced as a 40mm game all would be fine IMO!

But I can't stress this point enough - if you want to use them only for D Legions all is fine, the sculpts are great!

For me a bit disappointing since I always mix minis.
In addition my whole 28mm scenery is now dwarfed by the DL minis! :(

 AAN wrote:
If you are are planning to use the minis ONLY with other Dystopian minis all will be fine, but with every other 28mm (even heroic scale 28mm) mini they will look ridiculous.

I presume that might even be the intention of Spartan!

That is very disappointing. I had been planning to pick up some of the Prussians and Americans to paint (I don’t want to start another game) and maybe use eventually, but I don't want "28mm" miniatures that I can never use because they are huge. Seriously, why did they even advertise this as 28mm, when the actual height is around 35mm?

I agree,

if you're advertising yourself as a 28mm game (and they are on their website) it's foolish to be so far out of scale

I mean that's space marine size or larger, so it should be what, 35-40mm ?

Unless the figure is from a 'Potsdam Giants' style regiment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potsdam_Giants

then they would really be 7-8 feet tall, and we'd all feel silly for complaining

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
I agree,
I mean that's space marine size or larger, so it should be what, 35-40mm ?

As said - 40mm!

Shut up and take my money....

BTW is there is US retailer for this yet?

Cannot seem to find one..

Miniature Market is a great retailer, not just for Amerikanski, but also for Dutski and other non-US residents. They are having a 25% off sale on their Dystopian Legions range RIGHT NOW: http://www.miniaturemarket.com/table-top-miniatures/spartan-games/dystopian-legions.html

 BrookM wrote:
Miniature Market is a great retailer, not just for Amerikanski, but also for Dutski and other non-US residents. They are having a 25% off sale on their Dystopian Legions range RIGHT NOW: http://www.miniaturemarket.com/table-top-miniatures/spartan-games/dystopian-legions.html

Thank you so much!

Placing an order ASAP!

 AAN wrote:
If you are are planning to use the minis ONLY with other Dystopian minis all will be fine, but with every other 28mm (even heroic scale 28mm) mini they will look ridiculous.

I presume that might even be the intention of Spartan!

That wouldn't really make a lot of sense, what with compatability with GW/IG models meaning a hell of a lot more sales. Then again, making the models 35mm high doesn't make much sense, either....

It is worse, they are 40mm high!

Maybe the OP can rectify this by altering the title of the thread.

This may be enough to save...er....stop me from buying into this game!

It certainly kills it for me sadly. I wasn't blown away by the rules and now that the minis are incompatible with other ranges, alas.

Gutshot. Spent the time looking through this thread from the beginning, found some amazing models that I immediately saw as DFG "Valkyr" replacements, and now find out they'll probably be waaaaay too big.

 BrookM wrote:
It certainly kills it for me sadly. I wasn't blown away by the rules and now that the minis are incompatible with other ranges, alas.

Good point there Brook - the rules had it on the edge, the preview shots of the minis made it a possibility and then the reality of the scale of the miniatures killed it!

Yikes. Too big.

Such a disappointment.

Well, some of the vehicles might still find a way into the collection somehow. A giant wobot is always welcome, somewhere.

 BrookM wrote:
Well, some of the vehicles might still find a way into the collection somehow. A giant wobot is always welcome, somewhere.

That's a sentiment I can agree with!

Scale issue is disappointing, guess that'll save my wallet some pain though. May be able to fit a couple into the Judge Dredd minis as they've turned out to be over-sized too, but not quite as bad as these guys.

Beautiful miniatures. However having seen them they are more 30-35MM. I was so hoping to have some stand ins for my praetorian guard.

I've ordered the Britannia starter set. I'm interested now as to how they look alongside my Victoria Lamb kilted Praetorians. A slight difference in scale between manufacturers doesn't bother me. I don't view the figures as a literal representation. Imagination can play a part in games. I still want to see the full range of armoured vehicles.

The size issue is a killer for me, big shame as I'd intended to spluge on this game's minis to build an entire Imperial Guard army, with one or two additions from other ranges.

I may still keep an eye on the vehicles but that's it sadly.

I think they are out of their minds to turn down potential sales by making their minis out of scale like this.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
The size issue is a killer for me, big shame as I'd intended to spluge on this game's minis

Whoa, whoa, whoa. We all like minis here, but that is taking it too far.




The size issue is a disappointment for me too. I was hopeful that the Britannia models would be easy Praetorian stand-ins, but now that isn't going to happen. Like others I will hold out to see if any of the vehicles can be put to use for my Praets, though.

Dammit Spartan, just when I was actually interested in one of your games, it ends up being in an awkward size.
"Standard" are great not only for stand-ins for other games, but for collection unity and terrain compatibility. I didn't dabble in Dropzone Commander (a non-Spartan game) because of the unorthodox size and now this. In addition, many people have 28-32mm terrain lying around and it's odd to expect them to invest in yet another size.
I guess I'll just wait a few months for Spartan to get bored of this game and announce their next project. Eventually their produce-and-abandon cycle may hit gold.

On the bright side, those vehicles look rather nice.
Any indication as to the material or prices of those vehicles? I hope they don't end up being resin and thus elevated to Privateer Press prices.

 DarkTraveler777 wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
The size issue is a killer for me, big shame as I'd intended to spluge on this game's minis

Whoa, whoa, whoa. We all like minis here, but that is taking it too far.

Splurge =/= Splooge

The link below is for the Bassett tankette. £22.00 for two models. They will be resin. As far as I am aware no prices have been announced yet for the main armoured vehicles.

http://shop.spartangames.co.uk/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=DLKB33

That's the adorable tiny tank seen here?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-WuS7V6mML0s/UC-6gMHtt8I/AAAAAAAARAY/tjHah0fdsRY/s1600/a3.JPG
12.50 USD for a single one of those seems reasonable.

I guess the bigger models won't be too much more.
Really looking forward to these:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-E5xFMspRUtE/UC-63Mq9BsI/AAAAAAAARBA/YavrSwIb3Fg/s1600/a8.JPG
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-pbuzEEeouTk/UC-6kzPoUvI/AAAAAAAARAg/ZcwuFEtXmIE/s1600/a4.JPG

Then again, I guess it's a bit weird considering the unrelatable scale of the infantry models.

Okay..

the scale isn't that far off, they are the same size as Malifaux or Warmahordes miniatures. They are a bit bigger than the GW stuff though, but for terrain they seem no issue for me

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:


I think they are out of their minds to turn down potential sales by making their minis out of scale like this.

So do I!

TONS of potential sales lost, right there...

Once again, Spartan Games delivers a product with one or two awesome features, and one or two fatal flaws. It's like they're managed by Dr. Jekyll.

I'll pass. Using the miniatures in other game systems is a minor hassle, but not even being able to use terrain or accessories makes the entire thing a nonstarter.

It's not that much of a deal.

But I wonder why they didn't opt to just call it a 30mm or 32mm game or something. There've been quite a few of those who emphasize slightly larger, slightly more detailed miniatures as a sales-point actually (Dust, Anastyr, Wrath of Kings, Kingdom Death, etc... ).

It seems unlikely that they didn't expect people to look at the miniatures with an eyes towards using them elsewhere when they placed the "28mm" front and center like that in their advertising. I was similarly looking forward to their more sci-fi "28mm" they have planned for their Firestorm-verse. It will be interesting to see how those will turn out.