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 H.B.M.C. wrote:

The Khorne Chariot... isn't a Chariot. It's a rickshaw. Why the feth are Bloodletters pulling it?

Not to say I disagree with your evaluation, but in this particular case, it appears as though the bloodletters are standing atop the chariot, not necessarily pulling it. So, it is just driven by sheer force of the Blood God.

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
Personaly i like the Khorne Throne, for once we are far from the outdated "chariot pulled by X creatures" thing, something new that fits Khorne's, a Deamon Engine, a Trike of Doom from Hell!

Also HBMC the Bloodletters arn't pulling it, they are standing on the "bumper".

 Kroothawk wrote:
Must be the 6th month in a row with Dakka not impressed by GW's main release:
October: CSM (Dinobots, Dracobots, Maulers)
November: Warriors of Chaos (Shrine, copypaste riders, red Hulk)
December: Hobbit
January: Dark Angels (Storm Talon deluxe, Speeder deluxe)
February: Warriors of Chaos (bigger red hulk, prancing Dragon Ogres, bland chariot, troll deluxe)

That's what happens when the sales department rules the design department: Designs go down and sales go down.
Can't wait for the next annual business report.

Or maybe thats what happens when players becomes real Divas and are too lazy to use their hands to convert?..., don't like the stuff?, make the stuff yourself, thats my motto, there is waaaaay enough models and bits out there to make your own, the most important is if the rules will be worth the effort, and thats what i'm waiting to see.

I should not have to pay extortionate prices for models that i have to then convert to make them look half decent.

There are several other manufacturers making GW look like amateurs atm. They get my money instead.

 puma713 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

The Khorne Chariot... isn't a Chariot. It's a rickshaw. Why the feth are Bloodletters pulling it?

Not to say I disagree with your evaluation, but in this particular case, it appears as though the bloodletters are standing atop the chariot, not necessarily pulling it. So, it is just driven by sheer force of the Blood God.

Nope, there is a little outboard engine on the back.

Toot, toot!!!

 puma713 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

The Khorne Chariot... isn't a Chariot. It's a rickshaw. Why the feth are Bloodletters pulling it?

Not to say I disagree with your evaluation, but in this particular case, it appears as though the bloodletters are standing atop the chariot, not necessarily pulling it. So, it is just driven by sheer force of the Blood God.

I hear it only takes Premium Unleaded Blood with an Immaterium mandated minimum 15% ethanol mix...

With the price of virgins, unborn babies, and corn rising, I wouldn't want to have to take that to work every day.

Why are GW's sculpts increasing awful? It used to be that they were all awesome, and - like they couldn't help it - one sculpt would be pure ass. But, that's OK, the rest was sweet!

Lately though, I dunno - maybe starting with the Storm Talon, or maybe before that - the sculpts are just increasingly butt to the point that we have this release, and they're pretty much all butt.

How does this happen? Is it just perception? Honest question. Are we just getting older and our tastes refined, or are they indeed just increasingly awful? Because, I mean, I look back at that Dark Eldar release, and the Necrons, and the Grey Knights, and it's just hard to believe it's the same company. That burning chariot thing looks like a big lump of blue-green coral with some 40k bits glued onto it, ffs.

 DiabolicAl wrote:

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
Personaly i like the Khorne Throne, for once we are far from the outdated "chariot pulled by X creatures" thing, something new that fits Khorne's, a Deamon Engine, a Trike of Doom from Hell!

Also HBMC the Bloodletters arn't pulling it, they are standing on the "bumper".

 Kroothawk wrote:
Must be the 6th month in a row with Dakka not impressed by GW's main release:
October: CSM (Dinobots, Dracobots, Maulers)
November: Warriors of Chaos (Shrine, copypaste riders, red Hulk)
December: Hobbit
January: Dark Angels (Storm Talon deluxe, Speeder deluxe)
February: Warriors of Chaos (bigger red hulk, prancing Dragon Ogres, bland chariot, troll deluxe)

That's what happens when the sales department rules the design department: Designs go down and sales go down.
Can't wait for the next annual business report.

Or maybe thats what happens when players becomes real Divas and are too lazy to use their hands to convert?..., don't like the stuff?, make the stuff yourself, thats my motto, there is waaaaay enough models and bits out there to make your own, the most important is if the rules will be worth the effort, and thats what i'm waiting to see.

I should not have to pay extortionate prices for models that i have to then convert to make them look half decent.

There are several other manufacturers making GW look like amateurs atm. They get my money instead.

That's pretty much what he said to do..
Don't like them don't buy them. Lot's of stand ins for Daemons. Probably the best and easiest army to be creative with.

Is it just me (as a not Chaos player), or are the "impressive" character models for daemons indeed difficult to distinguish from bog standard troopers (except that they cost 4 times as much)? And except the flies, everything else looks like lazy copypaste designs from existing stuff.

The heralds aren't quite bad, but honestly, those chariots look like something out of the Wacky Races.

 Kroothawk wrote:
Is it just me (as a not Chaos player), or are the "impressive" character models for daemons indeed difficult to distinguish from bog standard troopers (except that they cost 4 times as much)? And except the flies, everything else looks like lazy copypaste designs from existing stuff.

I have to agree on the heralds. Though they look good, they will blend it a little more than they should. I think I'll have to do some drastic color change on them to make them pop.

 Swara wrote:

 DiabolicAl wrote:

 Slayer le boucher wrote:
Personaly i like the Khorne Throne, for once we are far from the outdated "chariot pulled by X creatures" thing, something new that fits Khorne's, a Deamon Engine, a Trike of Doom from Hell!

Also HBMC the Bloodletters arn't pulling it, they are standing on the "bumper".

 Kroothawk wrote:
Must be the 6th month in a row with Dakka not impressed by GW's main release:
October: CSM (Dinobots, Dracobots, Maulers)
November: Warriors of Chaos (Shrine, copypaste riders, red Hulk)
December: Hobbit
January: Dark Angels (Storm Talon deluxe, Speeder deluxe)
February: Warriors of Chaos (bigger red hulk, prancing Dragon Ogres, bland chariot, troll deluxe)

That's what happens when the sales department rules the design department: Designs go down and sales go down.
Can't wait for the next annual business report.

Or maybe thats what happens when players becomes real Divas and are too lazy to use their hands to convert?..., don't like the stuff?, make the stuff yourself, thats my motto, there is waaaaay enough models and bits out there to make your own, the most important is if the rules will be worth the effort, and thats what i'm waiting to see.

I should not have to pay extortionate prices for models that i have to then convert to make them look half decent.

There are several other manufacturers making GW look like amateurs atm. They get my money instead.

That's pretty much what he said to do..
Don't like them don't buy them. Lot's of stand ins for Daemons. Probably the best and easiest army to be creative with.

Aaah, totally misread. My bad. In that case i totally agree. Saw the WOC release... laughed a bit then bought Darklands Ysians instead....

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 puma713 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

The Khorne Chariot... isn't a Chariot. It's a rickshaw. Why the feth are Bloodletters pulling it?

Not to say I disagree with your evaluation, but in this particular case, it appears as though the bloodletters are standing atop the chariot, not necessarily pulling it. So, it is just driven by sheer force of the Blood God.

Nope, there is a little outboard engine on the back.

Toot, toot!!!

Ha! There is.

"And the next float in the Games Workshop's Thanksgiving Day Parade. . .the Bloodletters of Khorne!"

*musical steam popping and tooting out of the exhaust pipes*

Burning Chariot of Tzeentch = Ah, now I know where all those plastic trees went to.

Tz chariot- I like but have 2 of my own so maybe not buy.
Khorne what ever. um no. I'll convert my own.
Winged Plague walruses.- I kinda like, but I kinda loathe... um
Khorne Herald, cool but no need.
Nurgle herald, meh but no need.
Slannesh herald. I really like the sculpt. I could demote my currently herald to a champ...

Preorder book, magic, slannesh herald for sure. Will read book to make decisions further.

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
The heralds aren't quite bad, but honestly, those chariots look like something out of the Wacky Races.

This! This this this!

The Heralds all look fine, but the "Chariots" all look god-awful. GW doesn't seem able to design cool looking models anymore.

The chariots look weird and warped, kinda....deamonic....holy crap thats how there supposed to look...wow I seem to be the only one who has noticed, better not tell anyone that heralds are are only slightly more powerful versions of the basic warriors...otherwise they may work out why they look similar..

Ok sarcasm aside, wait untill you see the models properly untill you all claim they suck, the new da speeder looks great in person and naff in the gw pic.

I think the only truly horrible standout is the Khorne chariots right now. If it had just been pulled by juggers it would have been awesome. The Tzeentch ones will probably be fine in person. The heralds are alright. And I kinda like the plague flys, but I like Mournfangs and Necropolis Knights to so I'm part of the problem.

I kind of like the Khorne chariot, reminds me of a warped Can-am Spyder, if it has 1 big wheel in the back and 2 small up front, I can't really tell. The flamer just has too much flame and a poor color scheme. The Tzeentch Herald chariot is exactly what I though it would be. The Drones I hope have different head options, as the proboscis looks goofy.

The heralds look all pretty good, but boo on 2 of them being finecast.

The books, magic cards are all I'll be picking up this release.

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
The heralds aren't quite bad, but honestly, those chariots look like something out of the Wacky Races.

Khorne Kart Racing? And Khorne uses the Tuk-Tuk of Rage?

The first thing I thought of when I saw the Khornicycle was Bad to the Bone.

Wait, sorry, I just thought about Bu-bu-bu-baaaad. Not so much the bone thing.

I think that the plague flies would be awesome if they had heads that resembled the fly head from the plaguebearers, but instead they had elephants trunks.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
The heralds aren't quite bad, but honestly, those chariots look like something out of the Wacky Races.

Khorne Kart Racing? And Khorne uses the Tuk-Tuk of Rage?

You can even toss turtle shells SKULLS at your foes, so yes

On the plus side, I'm eagerly awaiting the return of leather-clad dwarf bikers and limo-riding genestealer cultists. Come on, GW, you're out of excuses now...

So instead of new greater demons that would surely sell.. we get chariots that invoke more head scratching than actual sales.

Wish I could say I'm surprised.

I am not sure what GW was thinking with these models. They are aweful.

How is that a "burning" chariot when it seems to be covered in seaweed?

The heralds look ok. I really can't wait to see the chariouts in person to see if they really look that bad up close.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
The heralds aren't quite bad, but honestly, those chariots look like something out of the Wacky Races.

Khorne Kart Racing? And Khorne uses the Tuk-Tuk of Rage?

The bitching and complaining of a large population of the folks on dakka never cease's to amaze me.
One day it is prices, the next day it is corporate policies, than it's whining over codex's.

Today we get a bunch of very small leaked pictures, followed by a chorus of 90% bitching and complaining.

If you don't like the hobby products or the company; GTFO. You won't, because you realize 40K is the pinnacle of the wargaming hobby.
I bet all of these models will be killer when seen in person & painted to a nice standard.

Or go play WH\Hordes. The models and game system over there are spectacular! (like comparing a Honda to a Mercedes).

I kinda like the Tzeench thing, not the one that is shooting trees but the other version is good. Everything else is either meh or makes me chuckle (looking at you plague flies!)

Well guess this stops my plans to get a mini daemons army. Might have another looks at the Crocodile games creatures, would make a great Egypt themed force...

Everytime I look at my GW armies and realize that I have not played 40K since May of last year and Fantasy since June of last year I get a little sad.

And then GW makes me feel a little better. I wouldn't even mind the prices that much if I felt I was getting quality to back it up. But I have to agree that this release just makes me scratch my head.

Firstborn you have too much faith in the minis. The last few waves of min .releases have been every bit as bad and uninspired as the leaked photos, though there were a couple decent releases hidden.in there.

Firstborn wrote:
... 40K is the pinnacle of the wargaming hobby.

...

Or go play WH\Hordes. The models and game system over there are spectacular! (like comparing a Honda to a Mercedes).

Are you for real? If so, then this might just be the funniest post of the year. And you were the first person to mention Warmahordes. Insecure/projecting much?