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Too slow...

lol...
So true!

 pretre wrote:

Man, GW has been nailing it with the 6e Codex covers. Really great-looking art.

Annoying that whoever is taking these pictures obviously has the WD...yet they can't tell us who's writing the damn books!

 Lorizael wrote:

 MetalOxide wrote:

 BrassScorpion wrote:
I still think the GW sculpts for the most part simply blow away anything made by PP, I've never liked much of their work.

I respectfully disagree, PP have done some absolutley gorgeous minis,.

Wow, it's almost as if different people have different asthetic tastes...!

Yeah, who would of thought...

 pretre wrote:

Hmm interesting make up for the Battle Force.

Troops
2 - Nurgle
1 - Khorne

FA
1 - Tzeentch
1 - Slaanesh

Dont really see the point of the Nurglings in there.

 lordofthegophers wrote:
Annoying that whoever is taking these pictures obviously has the WD...yet they can't tell us who's writing the damn books!

From the rumors, I've heard Jeremy Vetock, but I don't know exactly

thisisnotpancho wrote:

 lordofthegophers wrote:
Annoying that whoever is taking these pictures obviously has the WD...yet they can't tell us who's writing the damn books!

From the rumors, I've heard Jeremy Vetock, but I don't know exactly

Yet there is also talk of Mr. Ward. So we shall see in time. I would say that I'd assume MW for 40k as Vetock did the last book, but didn't GK get followed by Necrons? 2 Ward books in a row? So that idea is out the window. I hope Ward didn't do fantasy again, as there were large issues with it, but seeing how point costs have been adjusted, it may be okay this time around, regardless of whether or not he did it. We'll know soon. Post probably seems a bit...awkward in places, but I'm trying to keep a neutral post on my opinions of writers. As such, sidesteps need be taken.

 Sasori wrote:

Not a fan of the battleforce.

Nor am I. while I could use more Screamers and Plaguebearers, I'd rather just buy them individually than get Bloodletters and Seekers that I won't use.

But I suppose that could all change once the rules are known. I really would like to see some believable rules leaks.

Bloodhorror wrote:


Where the hell are the models everyone wanted. Plastic fiends, new greater deamons etc.

I've been wanting to get a bunch of Fiends since 2nd Ed, just because I always liked the tubular lizard scorpion craziness of them. I don't even care what rules they get, so long as they look bizarre and awesome.

Please, Slaanesh, bring me Fiends.

Firstborn wrote:

If you don't like the hobby products or the company; GTFO. You won't, because blither blather...

If you don't like it, too bad. Get over yourself.

Slaanesh-Devotee wrote:

Bloodhorror wrote:


Where the hell are the models everyone wanted. Plastic fiends, new greater deamons etc.

I've been wanting to get a bunch of Fiends since 2nd Ed, just because I always liked the tubular lizard scorpion craziness of them. I don't even care what rules they get, so long as they look bizarre and awesome.

Please, Slaanesh, bring me Fiends.

I read the bold part as bring me Friends

pretre wrote:

lordofthegophers wrote:Here's the fantasy cover for those who care.

Well, it is a bit rude to post other people's work as your own achievement.
Seems natfka is the original source for this, at least he posted them earlier than Warseer and Dakka:
http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/daemon-cover-artr-is-here-including.html#more

Pretty cool times for 40k. Pretty fast release after DAs.

I'll defer my judgement of the new models until better pics, however I am not a huge fan of recent trend of giving nearly every army some big, ludicrously elaborated magic Throne/Chariot/Cannon/Rube Goldberg machine. Not only many of the actual models have silly kitbash feel, it takes away from the effect when just about every army has this big magic whachamacallit. "Special" things aren't special when everyone has loads of them. Same goes for things like Monstrous cavalry and huge big monsters in general.

I understand that they want to keep releasing new stuff, and most of the basic infantry is pretty well covered already. Still, sometimes less is more.

And since PP was brought out once again, am I only one thinking that GW and PP aesthetics seem to be slowly creeping towards each other?

 Kroothawk wrote:
Well, it is a bit rude to post other people's work as your own achievement.
Seems natfka is the original source for this, at least he posted them earlier than Warseer and Dakka:
http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/daemon-cover-artr-is-here-including.html#more

I'm sorry, was I claiming that I found them? I just reposted them here.

Backfire wrote:
I'll defer my judgement of the new models until better pics, however I am not a huge fan of recent trend of giving nearly every army some big, ludicrously elaborated magic Throne/Chariot/Cannon/Rube Goldberg machine. Not only many of the actual models have silly kitbash feel, it takes away from the effect when just about every army has this big magic whachamacallit. "Special" things aren't special when everyone has loads of them. Same goes for things like Monstrous cavalry and huge big monsters in general.

I understand that they want to keep releasing new stuff, and most of the basic infantry is pretty well covered already. Still, sometimes less is more.

And since PP was brought out once again, am I only one thinking that GW and PP aesthetics seem to be slowly creeping towards each other?

Do you think that it went like this?

GW Boss"Have you seen these new enormous models PP are releasing???!!!!??!!!"
Design minion "Yes master, I was thinking...."
GW Boss"I DON'T PAY YOU TO THINK, MAKE SOMETHING LIKE IT IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!"
Design Minion "But master, to do something on that scale would take months of development and planning..."
GW Boss "WHAT?!!! Just turn out any old crap, our idiot customers will eat anything we feed them. have it on my desk by the weekend!!!!"
Design Minion "Yes master, nice master."

 pretre wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
Well, it is a bit rude to post other people's work as your own achievement.
Seems natfka is the original source for this, at least he posted them earlier than Warseer and Dakka:
http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/daemon-cover-artr-is-here-including.html#more

I'm sorry, was I claiming that I found them? I just reposted them here.

Play nice kiddies, plenty of room for everybody in the sand box. I'm just glad for the info, don't care where it comes from or who needs the pat on the head.

pretre- how does all this rack up on rumor validity?

We don't usually count leaked pics as rumors. I have to go through and check the Daemons Rumors over the next couple days though. I generally wait for more info, otherwise I have to go through and do multiple updates once we get more info.

A bunch of stuff looks like it came true though. We'll see...

 pretre wrote:
We don't usually count leaked pics as rumors. I have to go through and check the Daemons Rumors over the next couple days though. I generally wait for more info, otherwise I have to go through and do multiple updates once we get more info.

A bunch of stuff looks like it came true though. We'll see...

Pre-order and release date seem in accordance with the rumors. Plague drones unit... so on. Cool stuff. Thanks for tracking all that mess. I know I follow it.

 azreal13 wrote:

Do you think that it went like this?

GW Boss"Have you seen these new enormous models PP are releasing???!!!!??!!!"
Design minion "Yes master, I was thinking...."
GW Boss"I DON'T PAY YOU TO THINK, MAKE SOMETHING LIKE IT IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!"
Design Minion "But master, to do something on that scale would take months of development and planning..."
GW Boss "WHAT?!!! Just turn out any old crap, our idiot customers will eat anything we feed them. have it on my desk by the weekend!!!!"
Design Minion "Yes master, nice master."

I know you are being sarcastic, but to be fair, Warhammer always had large monsters, long before Privateer Press even existed. Back in the day, pretty much every army aside from Bretonnians could take monsters. Granted they weren't the size that they are now, but neither were infantry miniatures. Everything has gotten bigger I think, except for Night Goblins.

I remember when the Warhammer Giant came out, the accompanying White Dwarf article singing its praises stated that large scale monsters and such were the future. Sure enough, they've kept true to that promise, with the standard mixed results.

 Byte wrote:

 pretre wrote:
We don't usually count leaked pics as rumors. I have to go through and check the Daemons Rumors over the next couple days though. I generally wait for more info, otherwise I have to go through and do multiple updates once we get more info.

A bunch of stuff looks like it came true though. We'll see...

Pre-order and release date seem in accordance with the rumors. Plague drones unit... so on. Cool stuff. Thanks for tracking all that mess. I know I follow it.

I did some preliminary updates.

 azreal13 wrote:

Backfire wrote:
I'll defer my judgement of the new models until better pics, however I am not a huge fan of recent trend of giving nearly every army some big, ludicrously elaborated magic Throne/Chariot/Cannon/Rube Goldberg machine. Not only many of the actual models have silly kitbash feel, it takes away from the effect when just about every army has this big magic whachamacallit. "Special" things aren't special when everyone has loads of them. Same goes for things like Monstrous cavalry and huge big monsters in general.

I understand that they want to keep releasing new stuff, and most of the basic infantry is pretty well covered already. Still, sometimes less is more.

And since PP was brought out once again, am I only one thinking that GW and PP aesthetics seem to be slowly creeping towards each other?

Do you think that it went like this?
<snip>

No. I'm not talking about having big monsters etc in general, but stylistic things like poses, proportions, decorations etc. Seems to me both have slowly evolved towards similar, somewhat cartoonishly exaggarated visual.

Bloodhorror wrote:

Slaanesh-Devotee wrote:
Please, Slaanesh, bring me Fiends.

I read the bold part as bring me Friends

Well, yes, some of them would be nice to I suppose... But really, if I can have rubbertube-scorpion models I might be willing to give up a fair amount of social interaction!

Very exciting. The new models and rules of late seem to have found a certain stride that they've been lacking for years.
I've been dusting off old favourites lately, and the Daemon release promises to play right into that.

Not a fan of the new stuff myself.

 Kroothawk wrote:

Well, it is a bit rude to post other people's work as your own achievement.
Seems natfka is the original source for this, at least he posted them earlier than Warseer and Dakka:
http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/daemon-cover-artr-is-here-including.html#more

I understand that you're trying to give credit where credit is due, but did I say they were my pictures? No, I posted some pictures that I found so that everyone on Dakka can see them - sorry.

I would never try to pass anything off like this as "my own achievement". They are pictures of a White Dwarf taken on a phone, get off your high horse of justice.

Edit: Thank you to the random person who sent the picture of the army book cover to Natfka's blog.

The cover art for both books is very nice.

 NELS1031 wrote:

 azreal13 wrote:

Do you think that it went like this?

GW Boss"Have you seen these new enormous models PP are releasing???!!!!??!!!"
Design minion "Yes master, I was thinking...."
GW Boss"I DON'T PAY YOU TO THINK, MAKE SOMETHING LIKE IT IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!"
Design Minion "But master, to do something on that scale would take months of development and planning..."
GW Boss "WHAT?!!! Just turn out any old crap, our idiot customers will eat anything we feed them. have it on my desk by the weekend!!!!"
Design Minion "Yes master, nice master."

I know you are being sarcastic, but to be fair, Warhammer always had large monsters, long before Privateer Press even existed. Back in the day, pretty much every army aside from Bretonnians could take monsters. Granted they weren't the size that they are now, but neither were infantry miniatures. Everything has gotten bigger I think, except for Night Goblins.

I remember when the Warhammer Giant came out, the accompanying White Dwarf article singing its praises stated that large scale monsters and such were the future. Sure enough, they've kept true to that promise, with the standard mixed results.

Dude, I remember when the Marauder giant came out. Yes, large models have always been a feature, but it's only latterly they've invented bigger and bigger bases to accommodate them. I do believe that they're now, knowingly or not, getting in a pissing contest with PP over who can introduce the biggest thing. The difference being that, to me, the PP Colossals are some of their best work, whereas the more ambitious GW seem to get the wider they get of the mark, IMO. I say that as a 40k playing, non WM player too.

PP and GW dont have to be adversarial in nature. I see nothing wrong with one seeing an interesting idea and incorporating it into their line.

I think PP is a fantastic game, it just does not work for me.

I think GW is a fantastic game, it works for me.

Those two statements are not in conflict at all.

Like the new daemons so far, they look fun. Cant wait to get my mittens on the book so I can see if my epidemius conversion will get some play time.