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WS5 deamonettes and seekers with the -3 WS banner are hit on a 5+ by any opponent WS5 or less, and hit any opponent WS7 or less on a 3+.


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Anyone have info on the warpstorm table?

So if Daemonettes don't have Rending... then what purpose do they serve?

 schadenfreude wrote:
WS5 deamonettes and seekers with the -3 WS banner are hit on a 5+ by any opponent WS5 or less, and hit any opponent WS7 or less on a 3+.


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Anyone have info on the warpstorm table?

I posted it earlier in the tread. Just hit filter under my name. I am asking some follow up questions to a guy that has the codex in hand on 4chan/tg

After reading and contemplating, I have to say despite the nerfs to my favorite gods, this codex doesn't seem half bad. If you look at it as an ork player(Hordes of cheap troops and other cheap units) it seems really good. In a different respect, you could go really cheap on troops and splurge the rest of your points on big stompy daemons. I'll have to look more into the dex but as it stands Tzeentch is tops, but Slannesh can be very, very fast.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So if Daemonettes don't have Rending... then what purpose do they serve?

Daemon of Slaanesh give them Rending

There's a lot of butthurt flying around from both sides of the argument, would really like some clarification, personally I think it would be silly if it affected only our own units.

Agree with yak, hulk your opinion on this dex is highly valued to myself at least. Your opinions on nids were a huge help to a friend.

Didn't know you had a blog... Linky please

CRUDDACE?



Now the Epidemius nerfs make sense...

 lordofthegophers wrote:
There's a lot of butthurt flying around from both sides of the argument, would really like some clarification, personally I think it would be silly if it affected only our own units.

Looks like the answer is "yes, it effects all enemy units" including any allies of convenience.

Tzeentch shooting may be all psychic fireworks now, but dear sweet fluffernutter! Think about what a unit of 18-20 Pinkies including a Mastery Level 2 or 3 HoT w/Prescience + his own primaris Tzeentch power can do; a possible 7D6 shots all re-rolling missed to-hit rolls? (and IIRC atS5/ap4 to boot)
Sure hope my opponent's can pass their DtW rolls, otherwise that'll leave a few marks!

Now imagine a Tzeentch-Nurgle tag-team and hitting your intended shooting target first with Enfeeble from Biomancy... (wound most things on 2's or 3's and swing the likelyhood of an additional +D3 auto-wounds more in your favour)

Sure you've got to roll up those powers, but feth, the possibilities when the gods truely smile upon you can get downright dirty.

As a non-daemon player that is interested in the new book, how is Tzeentch doing? I have *been afraid to start an army due to how good screamers and flamers are leading to a possible harsh pendulum swing.

Ok folks, I have actual pics of the rules.

got anything you guys want to see just ask away, if I have I will post.

ooops just realized i cant upload actual pics.

Tzeentch powers



ooops just realized i cant upload actual pics.

I'm still sad that with decades of previous books, rules and various other sources that they couldn't do 7 powers per Chaos God (this applies to CSM as well).

Nurgle powers

ooops just realized i cant upload actual pics.

I'm not digging the Slaanesh powers at all. When the book is released and if Slaanesh doesn't have a way to reduce leadership, Pavane of Slaanesh and Cacophonic Choir is going to be a complete joke. Warpcharge 2 to maybe do 2-3 wounds to most units IF you roll a 10 or higher? Thats pathetic....

can you please just post pics of the index on the back so we know every unit's stats?

I also sat down with the book this evening, everything looks balanced and fun to play. I didn't see any units that just struck me as bad.

Something that struck me as weird though was the bloodletter's 5 BS. I guess stick them on an aegis line or in a tower and let them go at it on the heavy bolters, lol.

Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
can you please just post pics of the index on the back so we know every unit's stats?

I have a video of that. but it is 75 megs :( cant upload

40k-noob wrote:

Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
can you please just post pics of the index on the back so we know every unit's stats?

I have a video of that. but it is 75 megs :( cant upload

http://vimeo.com/

sorry folks, didnt realize i was breaking the rules for the forum. I will find a way to host somewhere and give a link

40k-noob wrote:
Ok folks, I have actual pics of the rules.

got anything you guys want to see just ask away, if I have I will post.

ooops just realized i cant upload actual pics.

Holy Living ****

Can you imagine pavane with psyker battle squad?????
MY GOD THAT'S NASTY

A UNIT DEAD PER TURN ON 2 PASSED PSYCHIC TESTS... I CAN'T EVEN

 Noir Eternal wrote:
I'm not digging the Slaanesh powers at all. When the book is released and if Slaanesh doesn't have a way to reduce leadership, Pavane of Slaanesh and Cacophonic Choir is going to be a complete joke. Warpcharge 2 to maybe do 2-3 wounds to most units IF you roll a 10 or higher? Thats pathetic....

Average Ld is 8/9. Plus, no armour or cover is pretty harsh.
Sure it's not going to erase large swathes of Guardsmen or Orks, but a Terminator unit for example botching their roll will be rather painful.

Besides, Slaanesh not gaining any Ld fudging abilities is a damn GOOD thing!!!

Clearly you never saw what Slaanesh did with those abilities in 7th edition...
The endless Slicing Shards was OP.
The insta Terror Ld-Bomb was game endingly broken.

Isn't that Slaanesh power just a bad version of Psychic Shriek, the Telepathy Primaris power? :/

You could already do that with Psychic Shriek and you get 3D6 for that, AND its a primaris, so no roll required


And then I get ninja'd, But yeah, Slaanesh is the poor mans version of the Doom or Psychic Shriek, its not that good

Experiment 626 wrote:

Average Ld is 8/9. Plus, no armour or cover is pretty harsh.
Sure it's not going to erase large swathes of Guardsmen or Orks, but a Terminator unit for example botching their roll will be rather painful.

Besides, Slaanesh not gaining any Ld fudging abilities is a damn GOOD thing!!!

Clearly you never saw what Slaanesh did with those abilities in 7th edition...
The endless Slicing Shards was OP.
The insta Terror Ld-Bomb was game endingly broken.

On average roll of 7, it will do nothing in 40k, and most Termie squads have a LD10 Char with them, I will laugh it you used that on them.

And now your talking about Fantasy, where as I was talking ONLY about 40k

I'm talking about the one which makes you take a leadership test or suffer a wound with no armour or cover saves aloud, then if the model is slain, go on to the next one. It might have been the other power. A whole squad of ork boys gone with two psychic tests. THE NUMBER OF WOUNDS YOU CAN CAUSE WITH THAT STUFF IS ASTOUNDING

A whole squad of Ork boys, are you serious? Like the squad that has a LD equal to the number of Boys up to 10? So maybe if there are about 5 boys left, and they repeated failed a still relatively easy LD until they all died you may kill them.

But a warp charge 2 power to kill a couple low point models? Not very impressive....at all

Save yourself the trouble, use a 10 point flamer and kill at least twice as many

Mohoc wrote:

40k-noob wrote:

Ferrum_Sanguinis wrote:
can you please just post pics of the index on the back so we know every unit's stats?

I have a video of that. but it is 75 megs :( cant upload

http://vimeo.com/

uploading it now. 15%....

 Noir Eternal wrote:
A whole squad of Ork boys, are you serious? Like the squad that has a LD equal to the number of Boys up to 10? So maybe if there are about 5 boys left, and they repeated failed a still relatively easy LD until they all died you may kill them.

But a warp charge 2 power to kill a couple low point models? Not very impressive....at all

I'm talking about the combination of psyker battle squad and that power. It would kill any single-wound-per-model unit that doesn't have an invuln. Reduce their leadership to 2, then make them take tests and they will lose models until they roll double 1s or until the unit is dead. It's brilliant...