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I'm always fething right, have you not been here long!?

 mattyrm wrote:
I'm always fething right, have you not been here long!?

I have, I just assumed you were always wrong, because you're also english.

I hang out here, because I have been in the 40K world so long (since RT days) all the hobby talk is kind of boring to me.

The only time it gets fun is when game v. fluff rants/flame wars erupt. Then I am in like Flynn.

 Easy E wrote:
You have to remember, the point of an internet debate is not to change the mind of the person you are posting "against" perse. Their mind is set.

The purpose is to change the thinking and thought process of other people reading the thread and who aren't entrenched yet.

To be fair, that's the point of all debate, even formal, competitive debate.

Yup. No disagreement from me.

Just the fact that people think Dakka OT would be different puzzles me.

 mattyrm wrote:

 nomsheep wrote:
this site is one of the few I frequent that keeps it's off-topic, in the off-topic.

It seems to me that gak loads of people on the dakka OT dont actually have anything to do with 40k!

I mean, at least I post the occasional figure, and check the occasional bet-rep or tactics or something.. I only do 90% of my posting in here.

But some of this lot seems like they could happily be doing this arguing on the Fox forums or something!

I do something like 30% of my posting here, though I admit I'm more interested in backgorund and lore than I am in miniatures. FFG's roleplays are what keep me in 40k.

I'll sound either stupid or like a troll but what the hey. who is FFG? and what roleplays?

Fantasy Flight Games.
Role Playing Games.

Thanks but for the second bit I meant which ones do they do not what does it mean.

 mattyrm wrote:

 nomsheep wrote:
this site is one of the few I frequent that keeps it's off-topic, in the off-topic.

It seems to me that gak loads of people on the dakka OT dont actually have anything to do with 40k!

I mean, at least I post the occasional figure, and check the occasional bet-rep or tactics or something.. I only do 90% of my posting in here.

But some of this lot seems like they could happily be doing this arguing on the Fox forums or something!

Hey, I just did a 7k Orks/Nurgle vs 7k Black Templars/Elysians apoc game yesterday. I stay out of the 40k forums because most of it is repetitive hogwash that I already know.

 nomsheep wrote:
Thanks but for the second bit I meant which ones do they do not what does it mean.

Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay
-- exactly as it says on the title. It's empire-focused, though it has Bretonnia as an expansion, at least.

Dark Heresy
-- Inquisition-focused, usually a low level acolyte, such as a common thug, a law enforcement officer, or a gun for hire, but later on you can play an Inquisitor yourself, and most things in between such as ecclesiarchal Hierophants, Assassinorum operatives, Primaris psykers, etc. Focuses on investigation, your characters are not meant to be that competent in combat, comparatively speaking.

Rogue Trader
-- Exactly what it says it is. Basically space pirates or space traders. IN SPACE. Includes rules for spaceship combat. Includes more focus on trade, making money, and etc than investigation. Characters are more competent in combat than DH characters, but often pay more for skills and stat advances.

Deathwatch
-- You play as marines who drop down or drive up or walk up and kill everything. Very hack and slashy. Marines start off with more xp than anyone else, and a ton of special rules and better equipment ,but they have a very, very limited skillset and pay out the ass for many things.

Black Crusade
-- Like Rogue Trader or Deathwatch, but from the point of view of cultists of Chaos, and the traitor legions. The game has a lot of potential for variety, but its xp system leaves much to be desired IMO.

Only War
-- Sort of like deathwatch, but from the Imperial Guard's point of view. Has by far the most refined mechanics of the series, and includes a focus on squad combat, companionship, and vehicle combat.

Amongst other, non-GW related things.

thanks I've played a few of those and quite enjoyed em. never realized who they belonged to.

To be fair, GW originally created Dark Heresy then handed the entire thing off to FFG FFG has worked closely with GW on the rest of htem too.

 nomsheep wrote:
thanks I've played a few of those and quite enjoyed em. never realized who they belonged to.

Check out their website some time.

They make EXCELLENT board games. Most of the ones my group plays these days are made by them. Arkham Horror, Battle Star Galactica, Talisman, Kingsburg...

 kronk wrote:

 nomsheep wrote:
thanks I've played a few of those and quite enjoyed em. never realized who they belonged to.

Check out their website some time.

They make EXCELLENT board games. Most of the ones my group plays these days are made by them. Arkham Horror, Battle Star Galactica, Talisman, Kingsburg...

+1 to Arkham Horror. That was fun.


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 Melissia wrote:

Dark Heresy
-- Inquisition-focused, usually a low level acolyte, such as a common thug, a law enforcement officer, or a gun for hire, but later on you can play an Inquisitor yourself, and most things in between such as ecclesiarchal Hierophants, Assassinorum operatives, Primaris psykers, etc. Focuses on investigation, your characters are not meant to be that competent in combat, comparatively speaking.

Rogue Trader
-- Exactly what it says it is. Basically space pirates or space traders. IN SPACE. Includes rules for spaceship combat. Includes more focus on trade, making money, and etc than investigation. Characters are more competent in combat than DH characters, but often pay more for skills and stat advances.

Deathwatch
-- You play as marines who drop down or drive up or walk up and kill everything. Very hack and slashy. Marines start off with more xp than anyone else, and a ton of special rules and better equipment ,but they have a very, very limited skillset and pay out the ass for many things.

Black Crusade
-- Like Rogue Trader or Deathwatch, but from the point of view of cultists of Chaos, and the traitor legions. The game has a lot of potential for variety, but its xp system leaves much to be desired IMO.

Only War
-- Sort of like deathwatch, but from the Imperial Guard's point of view. Has by far the most refined mechanics of the series, and includes a focus on squad combat, companionship, and vehicle combat.

Amongst other, non-GW related things.

Are these standalone, or do you need to buy a central book for them?

 Kovnik Obama wrote:


Automatically Appended Next Post:

 Melissia wrote:

Dark Heresy
-- Inquisition-focused, usually a low level acolyte, such as a common thug, a law enforcement officer, or a gun for hire, but later on you can play an Inquisitor yourself, and most things in between such as ecclesiarchal Hierophants, Assassinorum operatives, Primaris psykers, etc. Focuses on investigation, your characters are not meant to be that competent in combat, comparatively speaking.

Rogue Trader
-- Exactly what it says it is. Basically space pirates or space traders. IN SPACE. Includes rules for spaceship combat. Includes more focus on trade, making money, and etc than investigation. Characters are more competent in combat than DH characters, but often pay more for skills and stat advances.

Deathwatch
-- You play as marines who drop down or drive up or walk up and kill everything. Very hack and slashy. Marines start off with more xp than anyone else, and a ton of special rules and better equipment ,but they have a very, very limited skillset and pay out the ass for many things.

Black Crusade
-- Like Rogue Trader or Deathwatch, but from the point of view of cultists of Chaos, and the traitor legions. The game has a lot of potential for variety, but its xp system leaves much to be desired IMO.

Only War
-- Sort of like deathwatch, but from the Imperial Guard's point of view. Has by far the most refined mechanics of the series, and includes a focus on squad combat, companionship, and vehicle combat.

Amongst other, non-GW related things.

Are these standalone, or do you need to buy a central book for them?

Standalone, I haven't played, I got some of them just for the fluff, but they're all seperate rulesets.

I haven't been in an OT argument for awhile. They are pointless fun. I don't care about changing posters or lurkers hearts and minds. I like to read alot of the threads here because at some point I actually started to like the characters of quite a few of you nutjobs. Most of you are just irritating and I skip your posts.