Dark Angels Rumors thread: Update 11/25

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**Ronin**

Marthike wrote:
This sounds like a weird tank and one will never be used.

If its AV10,10,10 then unless it first demolisher equivalent rounds and is below 100 points no one will ever even go close to the thing

Given its description, Im more likely to think it'll use the new Artillery rules, which are a lot sturdier than the old Artillery rule. Mole mortar sounds interesting nevertheless, but it doesnt seem particularly "Dark Angelsy". Funny that it was formerly a Squat weapon, though it may hint at the Dark Angels ability to maintain and use rarer and ancient tech (beyond just MOAR PLASMA!). But it seems its just as likely that it could be given to Codex: SM in their next 'dex just as easily. I mean, doesnt the Thunderfire cannon also fire subterranean shells or something?
This also begs the next question, will the Dark Angels get Thunderfire cannons as well? Im surprised that this Mole Mortar thing isnt a plastic kit that can be made into either a thunderfire cannon or a mole mortar. Having an entire resin kit just for this would probably turn people off of it, to be honest.

**Nvs**

Maybe the watchers are squats that are hidden away from imperial view and would explain just how the dark angels are maintaining al that old tech!

DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN.

**Ronin**

XD

They're too skinny to be Squats. It'd be a major retcon.

**ZebioLizard2**

Watchers are more like Jawa's than Squats/Demi-urgs as well.

**pretre**

Adding that to the monger thread.

**MightyGodzilla**

I would probably buy a DA heralded techmarine. I think I'd never use a mole mortar (goes against my personal doctrine - no Dwarf stuff in my DAs) unless it was really really ridiculously cool looking.

If the watchers were really robed squats I might take a hammer to all of my DAs. If I ever prove to be outrageous enough to hammer my DAs to their oblivion I'll make sure to video it for you all.

**pretre**

@MightyGodzilla: Just send them to me and I'll hammer them for you.

**MightyGodzilla**

Prays to keep dwarves and DAs on seperate sides of the fence. I think having my penis broken would be just as painful.

**Mathieu Raymond**

^ There actually videos of that, as well.

And yes, it looks extremely painful.

**Davor**

Mole Mortar not very DA fluffy? Well it could be part of the Iron Wing, wich is DA fluffy. Granted the name isn't DA fluffy, but maybe the unit could be.

**pretre**

Stickmonkey wrote:Ok boys and girls. Not going so far as to call these rumors, as I have word only of some drawn art assets, but it could point to potential models and rules so passing it along.

First:
Ravenwing.
Got some art of an attack bike with what could be a plasma blaster in the gunner side. definitely plasma. but multiple barrels. could also just be TLPG but the source said it was one weapon not side by side when asked.
Second shot has a squadron of bikes, 6 bikes + attack bike riding down orks, in the air is a landspeeder, but it has underslung missle pods. Could certainly be creative license.

Deathwing.
Got art of Termie with a plasma cannon, back pack and hoses running behind.
Termies fighting chaos, one with LC and Cyclone launcher, the rest SB and PF, SGT in front with PS. Lends credence to mixed squads being present.

Other.
Art of supposed new flyer does very much resemble the lightning, with a landspeeder-esque body.
Shot of chaplain in TA fighting a hellbrute. So obviously wasn't meant for DV as that chaplain is PA.
Techmarine firing unknown weapon. Looks like a punisher cannon. supported with servo harness and held at hip. one servo arm is feeding belt ammo into it.

Like I said, no idea if any of this will be used, but it certainly is interesting towards rumors.

Could that Techmarine weapon be the new siege weapon you mentioned earlier?
Doubtful, the siege weapon was described as a tracked platform...like the thunderfire. this art is a single techmarine with a heavy weapon.

One thing, I've gotten a lot of rumors winging my way of techmarines. IMHO I am not certain some of it might not be for something else down the road. There is no particular fluff reason I'm aware of DA would have a greater than normal emphasis on TM. Iron hands, sure. But not DA.

Edit: Or possible as a first founding chapter there is just more artificer armor present and the art is being mistaken for techmarines...

The new aircraft sounds like it's sleeker than the Storm Talon, which is also promising.
Don't count on it...my source called it a "Pregnant Albatross". Said it has a big engine intake behind the cockpit.

**Brother SRM**

Thank you for getting rumors for me

added to the OP.

**warboss**

While rumored art doesn't necessarily trump rumored rules, I'm glad that something is refuting the previous rumor about Cyclone missle launchers only going on SB/PF termies.

**MightyGodzilla**

I lol at the description of pregnant albatross. I wonder if it is mandatory that SM flyers be god ugly.

Shot of chaplain in TA fighting a hellbrute. So obviously wasn't meant for DV as that chaplain is PA.

I don't really understand that line. Unless there's some rumor that DA Chaps won't have access to TA.

Otherwise I like what I'm reading. Techmarine with supergun, awesome. TAs with plasma, awesome. RW AB with plasma vulcan sidecar, awesome. Makes me wonder if the RW Land Speeders are going to have a plasma option. Also makes me wonder if the supposed plasma options are going to be as competitive as the pre existing options or if they're just plasma for plasmas sake.

DAs are right around the corner peoples, save your nickels and dimes.

**Kanluwen**

A Techmarine with a minigun...

Well. That's getting bought.

**pretre**

Kanluwen wrote:
A Techmarine with a minigun...

Well. That's getting bought.

lol. "You had me at minigun..."

**SickSix**

pretre wrote:
Kanluwen wrote:
A Techmarine with a minigun...

Well. That's getting bought.

lol. "You had me at minigun..."

No kidding. However I am starting to wonder why the DA would get special tech-marines, and why they are getting specialized 'siege' weapons. The Iron Hands should be getting special tech-marines and the Imperial Fists are the 'siege' specialists. These two things make me wonder if the DA codex doesn't turn out to be a test run for the SM codex once again....

**nolzur**

SickSix wrote:
These two things make me wonder if the DA codex doesn't turn out to be a test run for the SM codex once again....

Shhh!!! GW will hear you and think this is a great idea.

**Ozymandias**

Seriously dude, don't jinx us!

**stormboy**

If they decide to focus the DA on plasma - extra techmarines could be worked in on the angle that the DA techmarines have squirreled away knowledge from the old days.

Doesn't fit super well. If they had hidden away plasma knowledge, why wouldn't the techmarine have a super plasma weapon instead of a minigun?

**Theophony**

Because they are Darkplasma miniguns that fire Dark plasma. The Darktechmarines keep these in the vault on the rock. They also can upgrade the dreads to dark fists and dark mortis dreads.

Couldn't resist. But will probably be put on a rumor monger list now.

**pretre**

Theophony wrote:
Because they are Darkplasma miniguns that fire Dark plasma. The Darktechmarines keep these in the vault on the rock. They also can upgrade the dreads to dark fists and dark mortis dreads.

Couldn't resist. But will probably be put on a rumor monger list now.

No, I try to keep the silly meme BS off of the rumor list since it really doesn't add any value to anything.

**Formosa**

just to be clear, DA dont favor plasma more than any other chapter, thats a player percieved thing that seems to have leaked into the design.. which isnt that bad to be fair.

DA are a Tech chapter with secrets, relic hunters and keepers, excelent are keeping old tech going.

So the tech aspect alone is the reason we may be getting better plasma (maybe) and other weapons that are considered lost by other chapters (proper mortis dreads etc) .

As to the plasma gun attack bike.... I think this is just a rehash of a rumour I posted ages ago, and it was a twin linked plasma gun mounted on a normal bike, not an attack bike. either way this may add a little creddence to the rumour in my eyes

**commander astelan**

if the watchers in the dark are robed squats then the fallen win...

looking forward to the DA release never the less...good excuse to expand my fallen (pre heresy DA) army and my deathwing

**Kroothawk**

commander astelan wrote:
if the watchers in the dark are robed squats then the fallen win...

... and the Tyranids will have nice new snacks

On topic: Seems Jeremy Vetock might be the author then, as CSM Codex has been written by Phil Kelly:

Minx wrote:
From the comment section of http://collegiatitanica.blogspot.com.au/2012/09/games-day-australia-2012.html

Messanger of Death: wrote:Jeremy Vetock

- Very enthusiastic guy who was showing off the 'Eavy Metal teams Dark Vengeance miniatures.

- He has COMPLETED two Codices. (...)

- Wasn't able to talk about what he has been working on in any detail. I asked if any of his Codices were related to the Dark Vengeance release. He stated one of them "might" be... by the end of the conversation sounded like Chaos Space Marines and we "won't have to wait long".

**wowsmash**

I thought ward was doing DA.

**Platuan4th**

Why do we have so many techmarines? The Ironwing needs something to do when they're not busy driving.

**MightyGodzilla**

Ironwing. Pshaw. Pics or it didn't happen.

**Platuan4th**

MightyGodzilla wrote:
Ironwing. Pshaw. Pics or it didn't happen.

If I had that version of Epic, I would provide pics.

**MightyGodzilla**

What color were the IronWing anyways? Black, Ash, Green, Iron (silver)? I've only heard them referenced, but I never looked them up anywhere. Regular, Death, & Raven were always enough for me.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Where do I even find info on the IronWing? The Lexicanum omits it.

Pics or it didn't happen indeed.