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If GW does an Allies supplement for 40k I'm more inclined to believe that they'd actually have a unit entry for Fallen Angels than just say "use "x" unit from "y" codex... even if that unit is just a preselected combination of chaos space marines plus veterans of the long war or some such.

Out of curiosity, any clue on who's writing the DA codex?

It's a secret ... a dark secret

 Kroothawk wrote:
It's a secret ... a dark secret

As long as it's not... He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named...

 Yojiro wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
It's a secret ... a dark secret

As long as it's not... He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named...

Not Lord Cypher-mort!

 CIsaac wrote:

 Yojiro wrote:

 Kroothawk wrote:
It's a secret ... a dark secret

As long as it's not... He-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named...

Not Lord Cypher-mort!

Let it not be so! I wouldn't like to see Cypher becoming a warp entity that suddenly pops out of the warp to "help" the DA's... or have Jetpack-using terminators, who will have Angel claws and Angel hammers and Angel Shields and veterans that carry master-crafted Angel pistols.

Away with you, Cypher-mort!

Mat Moldeward

 Kroothawk wrote:
Mat Moldeward

NO Kroothawk, the name's been Tabooed!!! Now you just ensured You-Know-Who will destroy it!

So in fear of naming the one-who-shall-not-be-named... is he actually writing it?

well there aren't that many 40k writers and we know its not Kelly so there is a better chance its him.

Cruddence perchance? Hope mot, didnt like how he handled tyranids. I think I will take matt sard over cruddence. Sob nuf said.

I keep hearing Jeremy Vetock all over the place (forums, blogs, etc). Seems likely to me, but we wont know til the book is in our hands.

It'd be nice if some of those Oct 19th combo kits were DA based.

 MightyGodzilla wrote:
It'd be nice if some of those Oct 19th combo kits were DA based.

This is the first I have heard of these combo kits. Either I missed a comment on the thread or I'm forgetting. Could you elaborate a bit on this Mighty? Much appreciated.

Don't care who writes it, so long as DA gets an update

 ShatteredBlade wrote:
Don't care who writes it, so long as DA gets an update

Don't say that HE might hear you! lol

I didn't experience the "he-who-shall-not-be-named" incident. However, I have heard plenty about it. My ONLY hope for this codex is that it is NOT a "beta" test for nilla SM Codex. That would be just awful. To get something amazing like Re-rolls for "Get's Hot" and new Plasma weapon variants for vehicles only to see them go to the SM Codex. I would make a Fallen Angel CSM army if that happened.

 GhostOfCaliban wrote:

 MightyGodzilla wrote:
It'd be nice if some of those Oct 19th combo kits were DA based.

This is the first I have heard of these combo kits. Either I missed a comment on the thread or I'm forgetting. Could you elaborate a bit on this Mighty? Much appreciated.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/483354.page
We will see if it turns out true.

 ShatteredBlade wrote:
Don't care who writes it, so long as DA gets an update

No, no. Just... no.

I don't want GK 2.0 to be my beloved chapter's codex

From the rumours I've been hearing in the ether regarding the disturbing power of the DA, I think it might be Matt Ward.

I kid you not.

 Yojiro wrote:

 ShatteredBlade wrote:
Don't care who writes it, so long as DA gets an update

No, no. Just... no.

I don't want GK 2.0 to be my beloved chapter's codex

I do. As long there is a update then I don't care as long as its slightly less OP than necron, GK is ok.

from Faeit:

Poxy Proxy Predator wrote:
CODEX DARK ANGEL NEWS!!
Couple of weeks ago I asked a guy on Facebook who has inside links at gw, he just got back to me saying Ward is doing The Dark Angel Codex.

Some random guy heard it on Facebook!

Hey don't knock it

stick random facebook guy on the rumour tracking thread

I was probably going to leave him off since it was a pile on.

Just for giggles though...

I can see it all now***

From a very young age, El'Johnson, known as the Lion, held a deep feeling of regret... Remorse even... Having not been born to be an Ultra... So he set out a master plan to fool everyone...

His mentor, Luther, schemed with him... Luther would stay behind, on Caliban, to lure the forces of Chaos there... And when the Lion returned, the two worked furiously to blow up the planet, and kill the Lion... Leaving his sons to fend for themselves in a cold, dark galaxy... In hopes that Guilliman would take pity on the miserable wretches known as the Dark Angels, and allow them entry into his hallowed legion...

 Skipphag da Devoura wrote:
I can see it all now***

From a very young age, El'Johnson, known as the Lion, held a deep feeling of regret... Remorse even... Having not been born to be an Ultra... So he set out a master plan to fool everyone...

His mentor, Luther, schemed with him... Luther would stay behind, on Caliban, to lure the forces of Chaos there... And when the Lion returned, the two worked furiously to blow up the planet, and kill the Lion... Leaving his sons to fend for themselves in a cold, dark galaxy... In hopes that Guilliman would take pity on the miserable wretches known as the Dark Angels, and allow them entry into his hallowed legion...

That, good ser, sounds just about right for Matt Ward.

 Yojiro wrote:

 Skipphag da Devoura wrote:
I can see it all now***

From a very young age, El'Johnson, known as the Lion, held a deep feeling of regret... Remorse even... Having not been born to be an Ultra... So he set out a master plan to fool everyone...

His mentor, Luther, schemed with him... Luther would stay behind, on Caliban, to lure the forces of Chaos there... And when the Lion returned, the two worked furiously to blow up the planet, and kill the Lion... Leaving his sons to fend for themselves in a cold, dark galaxy... In hopes that Guilliman would take pity on the miserable wretches known as the Dark Angels, and allow them entry into his hallowed legion...

That, good ser, sounds just about right for Matt Ward.

Get over it. If the Fluff Master of the studio who makes sure all books conform to the direction of the fluff that they want let Ward's stuff through, then that's what the Studio wanted. No ONE author has entire control of a book.

Blame the studio as a whole for the new retcons, not Ward.

I didn't actually lay the blame anywhere... Was just making a jest...

Much in the light of the Ostrogoths...

They now claim to be descendants of the Guilliman...

 GhostOfCaliban wrote:

 ShatteredBlade wrote:
Don't care who writes it, so long as DA gets an update

Don't say that HE might hear you! lol

I didn't experience the "he-who-shall-not-be-named" incident. However, I have heard plenty about it. My ONLY hope for this codex is that it is NOT a "beta" test for nilla SM Codex. That would be just awful. To get something amazing like Re-rolls for "Get's Hot" and new Plasma weapon variants for vehicles only to see them go to the SM Codex. I would make a Fallen Angel CSM army if that happened.

I have a terrible feeling this is exactly what is going to happen. I HOPE that they get enough unique things to separate them from SM as much as say, Blood Angels have. In core terms, they are the same as SM they just have a little twist in some areas. Just like with 4th to 5th., i fear that both CSM and the DA may become the guinea pig/standard for which other 6th edition codexes will be measured against. This means that most likely, cool things like relic blades, characters, terminator troops, bike troops etc will be given as "unlockables" to regular are SM bc "Hey, why do they get cool stuff and we can't :( *pouty face*"

I seriopusly hope that they give a lot of cool unique stuff to DA that is GOOD as opposed to just cool. I feel that a lot of the creative new units keep getting overlooked because a lot of the better stuff is just gonna be DW/RW which is what we already have (although they are pretty badass).

I want my codex to be good, unique, not OP, and not be retconed for stupid reasons or to incorporate mediocre models and rules. Here's hoping. I am excited nonetheless but mostly because I want DA to go back to how they should be instead of a minor laughing stock of the SM codices.

-VardenV2

 Skipphag da Devoura wrote:
I didn't actually lay the blame anywhere... Was just making a jest...

Sorry, wasn't aimed at you, but at the Ward hate in general. The constant, petty, childish complaining is getting exceedingly tiresome, especially since, like any creative industry, no one person makes every single decision.

 Platuan4th wrote:
Sorry, wasn't aimed at you, but at the Ward hate in general. The constant, petty, childish complaining is getting exceedingly tiresome, especially since, like any creative industry, no one person makes every single decision.

Seconded! Take the Ward crap to one of the 5 different threads on it somewhere on this board and leave the rumors threads alone.