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Nothing really surprising as far as transports and heavy support. But aren't Dreaknoughts Elites?

I hope that Mat Ward is not writing the codex... the last thing we need is more OP Loyalist Marine cheese-fest!

 MetalOxide wrote:
I hope that Mat Ward is not writing the codex... the last thing we need is more OP Loyalist Marine cheese-fest!

Thanks for your constructive and well-read comment; it's completely original and I've never heard anything like it before! Let's not forget the bastion of overpowered codex writing; Codex: Space Marines, by Mat Ward, or Codex: Blood Angels, which is more silly than cheesy.

 Brother SRM wrote:

 MetalOxide wrote:
I hope that Mat Ward is not writing the codex... the last thing we need is more OP Loyalist Marine cheese-fest!

Thanks for your constructive and well-read comment; it's completely original and I've never heard anything like it before! Let's not forget the bastion of overpowered codex writing; Codex: Space Marines, by Mat Ward, or Codex: Blood Angels, which is more silly than cheesy.

I'm honestly more worried about silly then cheesy....

The point being that the comments "I hope X didn't write this" Are usually posted twice a day. Let's try and do a little more than build your count.


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New Razorback model with all the turret options sounds promising. I just bought six Rhino bodies last month...makes me wish I'd bought just a few less.

On that list of DA stuff I was surprised to to see the Imperial Defense network listed while the Fortress of Redemption was not...or is that because it's in the BRB.

And I'm a fan of LR's being DTs for termies. All in all I just can't wait to get the new codex.


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And here's one last thing I'm wondering about...is the new codex going to have power maul options for the character upgrades. Power Mauls being on the DA sprue I used them on my sergeants when a power weapon was a power weapon, was a power weapon. Now that everything got it's own profile I'm wanting them as counts as power swords over mauls. Would still like to use those models in my games. Cuz they look freakin sweet.

 KalashnikovMarine wrote:


I'm honestly more worried about silly then cheesy....

Same. In fact cheese wouldn't really bother me. Been playing them since 3rd so a decent codex doesn't seem like a whole lot to ask. I'm still hoping it's a touch more than Space Marines with robes and wing ornaments, which offering a couple types of bikers and terminators might cover.

@MetalOxide...

Is your avatar a picture of Justin Bieber with Iron Man?

Apologies for the slight deviation, but Daemons are now suggested to be arriving first, yet there aren't any new rumours for them since August, and we've practically got a complete codex breakdown for DA.

I think we're seeing them sooner rather than later.

I sincerely doubt we'll see a Razorback or Predator kit with a comprehensive list of options. They're about four years late for the Razorback kit, and while a Predator with better sponsons was made with the Baal Predator, GW stil haven't updated the stock Predator kit. I doubt we'll see a redo of either of those kits until the next Codex: Space Marines.

 Brother SRM wrote:
I sincerely doubt we'll see a Razorback or Predator kit with a comprehensive list of options. They're about four years late for the Razorback kit, and while a Predator with better sponsons was made with the Baal Predator, GW stil haven't updated the stock Predator kit. I doubt we'll see a redo of either of those kits until the next Codex: Space Marines.

I honestly dont see a problem with the current Predator or Razorback kits. They may not be as sexy as the Baal Preds, but they still do their job well enough. I doubt anyone wants their preds or razorbacks to really be built differently. It stays at decently long range and kills A.) Infantry B.) vehicles. Razorback is in the same area. you choose these vehicles to gain long range shooting.

I would like to see what the Ravenclaw is all about. The chibi talon just doesn't deliver the punch I need in the air using allies.

Would be cool to not have to convert a las/plas turret though

Paitryn wrote:

I honestly dont see a problem with the current Predator or Razorback kits. They may not be as sexy as the Baal Preds, but they still do their job well enough. I doubt anyone wants their preds or razorbacks to really be built differently. It stays at decently long range and kills A.) Infantry B.) vehicles. Razorback is in the same area. you choose these vehicles to gain long range shooting.

They look fine. The problem is the Predator's weak and thin sponson weapons. They snap off if you breathe on them too hard.

 Skipphag da Devoura wrote:
@MetalOxide...

Is your avatar a picture of Justin Bieber with Iron Man?

No it's me with Iron man.

As for topic... i would really love to see Plasma Predator turn into reality.
But i think that giving the Termies Plasma and Autocannon is a little to much.

 azreal13 wrote:
Apologies for the slight deviation, but Daemons are now suggested to be arriving first, yet there aren't any new rumours for them since August, and we've practically got a complete codex breakdown for DA.

I think we're seeing them sooner rather than later.

Or perhaps, Daemons are coming out first, but far fewer people play the army/are as excited about the impending release as compared to the 'oodles of longtime DA fans & Space Marine players in general?! Thus we get almost 0 rumors on Daemons, but plenty of tidbits/rumor mongering/wishlisting about the newest marine release.

Dark Angels at least have no outright OTT/broken units causing huge amounts of grief right now.
Daemons on the other hand... Well, let's just say that once again, thanks to those unscrupulous and donkeycave WAAC'ers, us poor Daemon players who've been with the army since early/mid 5th edition are now being lumped in with 'those guys' who've gone out and bought 27 Flamers + 27 Screamers since the WD update.

it would expalin Bieber's rapid rise to superstardom.....

Yeah I've been waiting for a new Pred kit since the Baal came out...

I am really digging the idea of a new pred kit... But let us be somewhat reasonable... The IG get the Plas Leman Russ... And it's really the only truly cool thing that they get... The DA picking it up, is like the C:SM getting Mortis dreads, and Plas (in general), and SW & GK getting TEQ troops... It's taking away from the "cool" factor of the IG...

I will still get one (or more)... But I will feel bad about it... And maybe cry a little...

 Skipphag da Devoura wrote:
I am really digging the idea of a new pred kit... But let us be somewhat reasonable... The IG get the Plas Leman Russ... And it's really the only truly cool thing that they get... The DA picking it up, is like the C:SM getting Mortis dreads, and Plas (in general), and SW & GK getting TEQ troops... It's taking away from the "cool" factor of the IG...

I will still get one (or more)... But I will feel bad about it... And maybe cry a little...

I wouldn't try to pull the "But it's their unique snowflake so we shouldn't get it" card with DA players. They may never find your body

Or you could assume Skipphag was being ironic

 Brother SRM wrote:

 MetalOxide wrote:
I hope that Mat Ward is not writing the codex... the last thing we need is more OP Loyalist Marine cheese-fest!

Thanks for your constructive and well-read comment; it's completely original and I've never heard anything like it before! Let's not forget the bastion of overpowered codex writing; Codex: Space Marines, by Mat Ward, or Codex: Blood Angels, which is more silly than cheesy.

Codex: Space Marines was extremely powerful in its heyday, as were the Blood Angels (and arguably they are better in 6th than in 5th). Each book he writes is more powerful than the last. Your sarcasm is asinine. The reason you hear this a lot is because it's true, although I suppose at this point it goes without saying, so there's little need for repetition.

And silly is in some ways far worse than cheesy.

So how do you think Roboute Guilliman will be shoehorned into the Dark Angels story line?

 Skipphag da Devoura wrote:
I can see it all now***

From a very young age, El'Johnson, known as the Lion, held a deep feeling of regret... Remorse even... Having not been born to be an Ultra... So he set out a master plan to fool everyone...

His mentor, Luther, schemed with him... Luther would stay behind, on Caliban, to lure the forces of Chaos there... And when the Lion returned, the two worked furiously to blow up the planet, and kill the Lion... Leaving his sons to fend for themselves in a cold, dark galaxy... In hopes that Guilliman would take pity on the miserable wretches known as the Dark Angels, and allow them entry into his hallowed legion...

THAT is the true sin committed by the Unforgiven...

Guys this thread is not to discuss any and all things Dark Angel, but to address release rumors.

If you are enjoying your conversation about the background by all means start a thread in backgrounds to continue, but it can't continue here. Please only post here with comments on the specific models and rules brought up by the rumors.

Forge World has put out a Plasma Flinger turret for the Deimos Pattern Predator. That's no guarantee that GW will add something similar to the DA Codex, but perhaps if it sells well they could consider it. In any event, I think it would make a fluffy and solid addition to a DA army list.

At the same time I doubt GW wants third party manufactures making readily available and cheaper “future tank energy turrets”. I don’t think “FW already makes it” would be an excuse that flies any more at GWHQ.

 kronk wrote:
Forge World has put out a Plasma Flinger turret for the Deimos Pattern Predator. That's no guarantee that GW will add something similar to the DA Codex, but perhaps if it sells well they could consider it. In any event, I think it would make a fluffy and solid addition to a DA army list.

Considering the book was being written years ago, I doubt this thing will have any impact whatsoever on the codex.

 Brother SRM wrote:

 kronk wrote:
Forge World has put out a Plasma Flinger turret for the Deimos Pattern Predator. That's no guarantee that GW will add something similar to the DA Codex, but perhaps if it sells well they could consider it. In any event, I think it would make a fluffy and solid addition to a DA army list.

Considering the book was being written years ago, I doubt this thing will have any impact whatsoever on the codex.

they might just take a second look at any product they release now, though. I mean, it was done, sure, but it's not as if they've got 40K printed copies lying around (fiscally alone it would be insane) and since GW playtesting seems to be the joke of the century anyway, yeah I can see them adding an option or two.

If it's something that is added to the codex, I doubt it has anything to do with Forgeworld putting a similar model out shortly beforehand.

Faeit212 wrote:January White Dwarf Will Feature Dark Angels
Here is a little snippet sent in to me which gives us a timeline for an exciting end the year, first of 2013 codex release for 40k. Accordingly Dark Angels will probably be released for pre-order before December is done, and up hitting the shelves January 5th.
That would be a great way to start off the new year.

via the Faeit 212 inbox (anonmyous as I have no permission to use the sources name)

the next WD is Hobbit releases and the WD after will feature Dark Angels.
DA codex will be after Christmas though.

As Hastings said in August

Didn't he just say it was march? MAKE UP YOUR MIND!