Mantic DreadBall Kickstarter - Completed! - 3 seasons fully funded!

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**nkelsch**

So robots are athletes out of "Real Steel" where they have operators or are they AI?

**Commander Cain**

Well the fluff for the MPV mentions operators so I presume the rest of the robots are as well. Would be great to get some models of the operators maybe as coaches or something!

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Found it!

Mantic wrote:Crowds erupt into cheers when this bot steps out onto the pitch and his veiled operators always make sure to address them with a signature gloved salute.

**Triszin**

where* did you find this picture? it looks awesome and am happy i'm getting one.

i'm kinda disappointed that they didn't go not geth but still these robots look awesome.

**scarletsquig**

^ It's been posted in the kickstarter comments.

**Gerinako**

Want

**Rolt**

Next Goal:

$354,999 – Coach Renton

Earlier this year we started a Kickstarter for Kings of War, our fantasy miniatures wargame - 1568 backers and $354,998 later and it was an overwhelming success!

When we saw that there was a lot of love for the Coach Renton concept after feedback from the coaches, it only seemed right that if beat the Kings of War goal, we’d mark the occasion by sculpting him as a limited edition Kickstarter model and include one in your pledge to say thanks.

Even though his team was recently beaten by a different Ronald(o), Coach Renton is famed for his flamboyant style, post-match rants and signature dance moves whenever a Strike is made and big points are earned.

If you help us beat the Kings of War Kickstarter Total, we will include a limited edition Coach Renton figure in pledges of Jack and Striker! to thank you for all of your support!

We are building to a massive finish and can't wait to see what happens over the next couple of days. Thanks again! (and yes, we are busy scribbling new drawings!)

PS: If you want to see yourself sculpted as a figure and be immortalised on the cover of the Season 2 Rulebook (which will be available as a hard copy add-on soon, then check out our Man of the Match pledge level!

Looks like they want to try and beat the kings of war kickstarter by ONE WHOLE DOLLAR!, considering this kickstarter still has 10 days left it could easily hit closer to the 500-600,000 mark. Anyway this figure is included due to people asking for it in the kickstarter comments, good to see Mantics listen's to thier fans.

**AlexHolker**

Bleh. How about some stretch goals to get the teams down below GW prices per model?

**judgedoug**

AlexHolker wrote:
Bleh. How about some stretch goals to get the teams down below GW prices per model?

Aren't the MSRP of the team boxes about $3 per model while GW's Blood Bowl team boxes are $4 per model?

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comments of the most recent update

Ahmad F about 2 hours ago
I was hoping Ronnie in a cheerleader dress with pompoms. Oh well. This will do

Creator Mantic Games about 1 hour ago
@Ahmad - Ronnie says you've got two choices - you can take up the $5000 pledge and get exactly that model made :-). Alternatively, if we get to $1,000,000, he'll do it for real!

So all the Mantic haters should now support Dreadball so they can see Ronnie dressed in some cheerleading gear.

**Alpharius**

Not quite the incentive you think it is, I'm afraid!

**adamsouza**

AlexHolker wrote:
Bleh. How about some stretch goals to get the teams down below GW prices per model?

GW Bloodbowl Team $49.50 for 12 figures is $4.13 per figure ($3.75 per figure for 16 man $60 Human Team)

Mantic Striker Deal $150 for 77 figures is $1.94 per figure

Striker + Coaches + Keepers + 4 season 2 teams is 117 figures for $230, $1.96 per figure

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED !!

**sparkywtf**

And do forget the extra 50 dollars it will be for the 4 season 3 teams that will come out because we are going to pass those stretch goals!

Time to sell that kidney. I wonder if the bank will back a loan with all the plastic guys I have in the closet so I can get some money for all these KS.

**AlexHolker**

GW MSRP is £18 for 10 multipart, plastic models, or £1.80 per model. Dreadball team MSRP is $25 for 8 monopose, plastic models, or ~£1.90 per model.

**sparkywtf**

AlexHolker wrote:
GW MSRP is £18 for 10 multipart, plastic models, or £1.80 per model. Dreadball team MSRP is $25 for 8 monopose, plastic models, or ~£1.90 per model.

You aren't even comparing apples to oranges there... more like... apples to tomatoes... And don't give me anything about tomatoes being a fruit.

**judgedoug**

AlexHolker wrote:
GW MSRP is £18 for 10 multipart, plastic models, or £1.80 per model. Dreadball team MSRP is $25 for 8 monopose, plastic models, or ~£1.90 per model.

Comparing sprued plastic to Restic - not really. Can't do side detail (unless sliding core) on sprued plastic. Mantic's figures are not sprued.
So I take it you haven't worked with Restic yet?
I just assembled 20 restic Gore Riders (my first sprueless plastic resin plastic hybrid whatever) and my observations are: more durable than metal, lighter than metal, easier to work with than metal, same detail as metal, cheaper than metal, more expensive than plastic, more detail than plastic. After my Gore Riders I never want to ever use metal again. Which makes my pile of unpainted metal figures very sad.

**Black Nexus**

AlexHolker wrote:
GW MSRP is £18 for 10 multipart, plastic models, or £1.80 per model. Dreadball team MSRP is $25 for 8 monopose, plastic models, or ~£1.90 per model.

fair enough, not seen these on the list of blood bowl product workshop sell on their website

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/listProducts.jsp?catId=cat480004a

**judgedoug**

holy crap! $15 for a figure? jeez I remember paying $6.50 for the blister of all the trophies in 2004, now it's $29.75? *barf*

**AlexHolker**

Oh, so now Dreadball is just a Blood Bowl clone, and can't be compared to anything except Blood Bowl?

Here, let me spell it out for you in a way immune to pedantry: I would like it if the MSRP of a Dreadball team was better than $24.99/£15 for 8. Got that?

**judgedoug**

Technically, I did just compare, within Mantic's own range. 10 Gore Riders is MSRP $35, and that's cavalry. I agree 8 guys for $25 is a bad deal, and should be 10 figures. You brought up the Blood Bowl price comparison.

Thankfully it's not something I'm too concerned about as I'll be doing the KS deal, but for Mantic's future expansions it should be a bit more affordable.

**AlexHolker**

I did not bring up Blood Bowl or any Blood Bowl miniature, I brought up GW's 10 man plastic kits, which have a standard price of £18 for 10.

**judgedoug**

My mistake, I read that as the Blood Bowl plastic teams. My apologies, I was wrong, looking back I think I combined your post and another's in my brain.

But that pricing seems wrong, I thought the plastic 10 man boxes of Greatswords and Tomb Guard and such were $45?

**Dysartes**

Out of interest, Alex, is there actually anything you're happy about with this KS? Almost every update seems to fetch a new complaint from you.

**lord_blackfang**

Gerinako wrote:
Want

I don't get it. What's he a rip-off of?

**Dysartes**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Gerinako wrote:
Want

I don't get it. What's he a rip-off of?

I believe it is concept art of Mantic's Ronnie Renton as an Enforcer Coach (I think - the armour seems right for Enforcers, anyway).

**judgedoug**

Honestly that's a very cool mini that can be used for loads of games, including a cool IG character or assassin or something.

**scarletsquig**

Alternate Corporation commander or even better, Forward Observer (assuming that hero stays in the list) for Warpath.

Never mind Dreadball, that's the main use for that Ronnie mini.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

AlexHolker wrote:
I did not bring up Blood Bowl or any Blood Bowl miniature, I brought up GW's 10 man plastic kits, which have a standard price of £18 for 10.

Well if Mantic want to get to that point great,

but since restic is not plastic, or as cheap as a raw material I doubt we will hit that point

Mantic are not asking us to pay the larger stretch goals required for plastic tooling either, which is a plus as we get more variety in the game

(the sad part is it means no real pose-ability without conversion)

**adamsouza**

AlexHolker wrote:
Oh, so now Dreadball is just a Blood Bowl clone, and can't be compared to anything except Blood Bowl?

You actually didn't spell it out what models you were comparing it to in the post of yours I replied to.
I feel Bloodbowl is the ONLY comparable GW product, so that's what I compared to.

Here, let me spell it out for you in a way immune to pedantry:

If wanted to be pedantic about it I would have compared them to terminators (5 for $50), or Ork Lootas (5 for $25), or Tactical Marines ($37.25 for 10), etc....

I would like it if the MSRP of a Dreadball team was better than $24.99/£15 for 8. Got that?

Me to. I would have preferred 16 models for $24.99, or less for that matter, but about $3 a model retail in this hobby isn't outrageous and the kickstarter has lowered the cost per model to under $2

**Alpharius**

Dysartes wrote:
Out of interest, Alex, is there actually anything you're happy about with this KS? Almost every update seems to fetch a new complaint from you.

That has seemed to be the trend...

Overall, I think this campaign offers a really good value at certain 'sweet spots'.

**decker_cky**

adamsouza wrote:
If wanted to be pedantic about it I would have compared them to terminators (5 for $50), or Ork Lootas (5 for $25), or Tactical Marines ($37.25 for 10), etc....

Actually...to be really pedantic, you'd compare to something in finecast, which is the closest material to what Mantic uses, though inferior in quality.

5 Eldar Wraithguard for $59.

Also can't forget the number of 'character' equivalent models included with this set. Add those into the GW calculation and the kickstarter probably is much cheaper per model already.

**adamsouza**

decker_cky wrote:
Also can't forget the number of 'character' equivalent models included with this set. Add those into the GW calculation and the kickstarter probably is much cheaper per model already.

True. True.

When I was looking up BloodBowl prices andI saw the DoomRoller is now $49.50, I thought about it, but decided against it as I was trying to make a reasonable comparison and not completely skew it with GW's outrageous prices.

Nice to hear a kindred spirit on the matter.

Anyhow, If you check my posts on the DreadBall pricing, I was quick to point out how I thought it was expenisve, at first. When they started dumping in extra figures and I heard how much CoollMiniOrNot spent on shipping for the Zombicide kickstarter, I changed my opinion to that it was a good deal. Maybe not MUST HAVE like the Reaper Bones Kickstarter was, but a good deal none the less.

I'm a huge fan of BloodBowl, and while some people don't like to draw the comparison between the two games, Dreadball is like Bloodbowl in all the good ways. The Scifi/Fantasy inspired teams, minaitures, Dice, sport themed, and a bit tounge in cheeck, are things that have won me over.