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Houston, TX

I would love to make use of the Azrael model (and his little helm bearer which grants everyone 4+ invulnerable save). What do you recommend for a DA Ally Detachment?

I normally use SM, BA or SW. Here is what I have in the detachment so far.

Azrael
Deathwing w/ Cyclone
8-man Tactical Squad with Power Weapon and meltagun in a Rhino (no heavy weapon)
3x Typhoon Multimelta Speeder
Whirlwind

My problem is: which unit should Azrael attach to in my main army to buff? I am thinking of a command squad with 3 power weapons + champion. But that is hardly enough bodies. Perhaps a unit of BA Honour Guard all with power weapon + banner?
   
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Attach him to death company.

   
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General





Beijing, China

might want to wait for the new codex in a month or three before you make too many concrete choices

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 TheLionOfTheForest wrote:
Attach him to death company.


Now that's just evil
   
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Hamburg

 Punisher Gatling Cannon wrote:
 TheLionOfTheForest wrote:
Attach him to death company.


Now that's just evil

Yeah, a Death Company in a Stormraven.

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A few things. Dark ANgels can not have an 8 man squad of tacticals, its either 5 or 10, nothing in between. On top of that you can only have one Typhoon in each squad.

Azrael is also a 225pts model without EW And with AP 3 in CC he lost some of his punch. Albeit his own 2+ save got better. Still, no doubt he is a cool model but I would chose Belial 11 tims out of 10 instead of him. Allying scoring termies is a superior choice IMO.

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Houston, TX

I cannot attach him to DC in a Stormraven since Azrael cannot ride in an ally's transport. I need a way to transport him to the place I need.

Thanks tedurur for the clarification, I probably should stick to a 5-man so I can bring Azrael to the mainline.
   
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leohart wrote:
I cannot attach him to DC in a Stormraven since Azrael cannot ride in an ally's transport. I need a way to transport him to the place I need.

Thanks tedurur for the clarification, I probably should stick to a 5-man so I can bring Azrael to the mainline.

How about the wording: cannot ride in ally tank vs. ally transport ?
The Stormraven is an ally tank.

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Houston, TX

In my English version, the Stormraven is not a tank. It is a flyer transport. So Azrael is still stuck riding in a Rhino. :(
   
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The question was whether a unit and an allied HQ (brothers in arms) can embark in a tank like a Falcon or LR (or SR) which is not marked as a transport.

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 wuestenfux wrote:
The question was whether a unit and an allied HQ (brothers in arms) can embark in a tank like a Falcon or LR (or SR) which is not marked as a transport.


Ofc he cant. Why would he/she? A rhnio is no more marked as a transport than a LR or a SR. If it has a transport capacity then it is a transport and an allied charcter can not embark.

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Page 112: "However, note that not even Battle Brothers can embark in allied transport vehicles".

Maybe I should take the Deathwing Termies with Azrael + Chaplain. Then Azrael move out to join the DC before they all charge in?

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"However, note that not even Battle Brothers can embark in allied transport vehicles".

Sorry I wouldn't like to hijack this thread but a LR is not a transport vehicle, its a tank with transport capacity/capability.

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 wuestenfux wrote:
"However, note that not even Battle Brothers can embark in allied transport vehicles".

Sorry I wouldn't like to hijack this thread but a LR is not a transport vehicle, its a tank with transport capacity/capability.

The back of the BRB disagrees. Page 411 lists a Land Raider as Tk,T which is Tank, Transport.

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Hamburg

rigeld2 wrote:
 wuestenfux wrote:
"However, note that not even Battle Brothers can embark in allied transport vehicles".

Sorry I wouldn't like to hijack this thread but a LR is not a transport vehicle, its a tank with transport capacity/capability.

The back of the BRB disagrees. Page 411 lists a Land Raider as Tk,T which is Tank, Transport.

Okay, it seems not to be possible.

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Also dark angels tac squads number either five or ten an 8 man squad is no allowed.

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Hamburg

Azrael
Deathwing w/ Cyclone
8-man Tactical Squad with Power Weapon and meltagun in a Rhino (no heavy weapon)
3x Typhoon Multimelta Speeder
Whirlwind

I'd take Belial, 2x 5 Deathwing Termies w/ cyclone as a core.

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I think the only unit that makes a great use of Azrael is an imperial guard blob squad. No one else will really want him.

He is bound to have cool rules come the new codex. Just wait.
   
 
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