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Fox doesn't hate them. This is basically their token "liberal".
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
Jihadin wrote: Soon....soon....so soon..my diabolical plan of the Tea Party taking over will come to fruitation --->insert evil laughter<----
You mean the 2010 midterm vote? That already happened, you missed the bus. It's all downhill for the teaparty now, almost everyone hates them after the budget ceiling debate and most of their elected officials failing in their respective states.
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Do you remember that time that thing happened?
This is a bad thread and you should all feel bad
Jihadin wrote: Soon....soon....so soon..my diabolical plan of the Tea Party taking over will come to fruitation --->insert evil laughter<----
You mean the 2010 midterm vote? That already happened, you missed the bus. It's all downhill for the teaparty now, almost everyone hates them after the budget ceiling debate and most of their elected officials failing in their respective states.
The Tea Party is a great example of people getting exactly what they wanted.
Jihadin wrote: Soon....soon....so soon..my diabolical plan of the Tea Party taking over will come to fruitation --->insert evil laughter<----
You mean the 2010 midterm vote? That already happened, you missed the bus. It's all downhill for the teaparty now, almost everyone hates them after the budget ceiling debate and most of their elected officials failing in their respective states.
The Tea Party is a great example of people getting exactly what they wanted.
The tea party is not the hero we need but it is the one we deserve.
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One can be, "Da Fist uv Mork" and the second can be, "Da Uvver Fist uv Mork."
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I go with the Tea Party...I mean seriously...your not going to have leeway on Greater Texas with Frazz jack booted weiner dogs on patrol
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If the Tea Party wasn't basically just a cover for religious nutters trying to get their extremist views made in to law (which is what they've basically become; just about any serious tea party candidate is also an extremist conservative), and actually gave as much a damn about fiscal responsibility as they claim to (they don't), I might sympathize wit them more.
Then again, I believe Libertarianism is more than just "states can oppress however they want, but how DARE the federal government oppress!"
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I know its a show and all that but thats a bit harsh relating them to the Taliban. How is the show actually?
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Well watch the full segment. Can't relate to the show if they're willing to brand the Tea Party the American "Taliban". RL experience tells me they have to clue what the real Taliban can did/do if in charge.
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Jihadin wrote: Its Fox News remember. It favors the right.....so its LIES!!!! Actually I read it last night. Its a good read. Is there one for Obama?
I don't think he spoke at the convention. I could be wrong on that though.
Sally Kohn styles herself as a liberally aligned woman working at fox, so it could be that she's being pulled for the article so that fox can distance itself from having to defend the speech. Fox isn't a monolith though, especially online, and I wouldn't doubt that the editorial section of their 24 hour network will start to defame leftist "gotchya" politics. As well put together as their daytime crew is, foxes other outlets sometimes go against grain.
Could we stop referring to "gotcha politics" as being synonymous with "calling people out on their bs"?
whembly wrote:Btw, I like O'Reily... I may be wrong but he seems moderate. I tried watching Hannity & Colmes and just couldn't. I'd rather watch CNN... but, then again, I usually dont' as I'm watching sports
I remember when O'Reily was the craziest guy on FoxNews... and now, without him changing at all, he has become by far the most level-headed person there.
Jihadin wrote:Well watch the full segment. Can't relate to the show if they're willing to brand the Tea Party the American "Taliban". RL experience tells me they have to clue what the real Taliban can did/do if in charge.
@Jihadn: I honestly ask this without a hint of judgement or sarcasm:
why don't you describe to me the difference?
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Well what do you know about the Taliban Az. Remember their a grp of people I really....HATE...along with AQ and the insurgents. So to me labeling a grp the "Taliban" is below low. Yes I know its a show and yes I condemn the show for myself on that remark. So let me know what you know about them.
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I throw one out. Kid suicide bombers
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Jihadin wrote: Its Fox News remember. It favors the right.....so its LIES!!!! Actually I read it last night. Its a good read. Is there one for Obama?
No. FOX news tells lies, and so they are thought of as a news outlet that tells lies.
There are plenty of conservative media outlets with decent reputations, think of the Times in the UK. Or The Economist.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
But one is more willing to kill you for not following ShariaLaw. Forget the 17 afghans that got beheaded?
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Jihadin wrote:Well what do you know about the Taliban Az. Remember their a grp of people I really....HATE...along with AQ and the insurgents. So to me labeling a grp the "Taliban" is below low. Yes I know its a show and yes I condemn the show for myself on that remark. So let me know what you know about them.
What I know about the Taliban, in a nutshell:
-Hardcore enforcers of Sharia Law, specifically of that found in the Sunnah (spelling?) combined with a bunch of arbitrary gak that I think Mullah Omar just kinda felt like one day.
-Committed multiple instances of ethnic cleansing.
-Scorched Earth policy against their own civilians, denied international food aid to them as well.
-Kidnap women for the purposes of human trafficking, despite their claims to adhering to Sharia Law.
That's the bullet-point version. Now, don't get me wrong. I hate them as well -and I do not use that term lightly. But if the Tea Party (perhaps not in its original form, but now that it has mutated into the -extreme- Christian right) was operating somewhere that they believed they would suffer no earthly repurcussions for their actions, I suspect they might behave in a similarly vicious and extreme manner, though obviously endorsing a different flavour of values.
Jihadin wrote:Well what do you know about the Taliban Az. Remember their a grp of people I really....HATE...along with AQ and the insurgents. So to me labeling a grp the "Taliban" is below low. Yes I know its a show and yes I condemn the show for myself on that remark. So let me know what you know about them.
What I know about the Taliban, in a nutshell:
-Hardcore enforcers of Sharia Law, specifically of that found in the Sunnah (spelling?) combined with a bunch of arbitrary gak that I think Mullah Omar just kinda felt like one day.
-Committed multiple instances of ethnic cleansing.
-Scorched Earth policy against their own civilians, denied international food aid to them as well.
-Kidnap women for the purposes of human trafficking, despite their claims to adhering to Sharia Law.
That's the bullet-point version. Now, don't get me wrong. I hate them as well -and I do not use that term lightly. But if the Tea Party (perhaps not in its original form, but now that it has mutated into the -extreme- Christian right) was operating somewhere that they believed they would suffer no earthly repurcussions for their actions, I suspect they might behave in a similarly vicious and extreme manner, though obviously endorsing a different flavour of values.
Hmm, here I was thinking you didn't like making sweeping generalizations.
I guess it's okay to use them against people you hate.
Indeed, I actually read the Economist, myself. A few of their writers jump head over heels to try to kiss Romney's ass (and by extension, Ryan's, despite tearing in to his pathetic excuse for a "tax plan" that he pushed forth a few years ago), but personally as a whole they're one of the better newspapers.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
ShumaGorath wrote: I don't think he spoke at the convention. I could be wrong on that though.
Sally Kohn styles herself as a liberally aligned woman working at fox, so it could be that she's being pulled for the article so that fox can distance itself from having to defend the speech. Fox isn't a monolith though, especially online, and I wouldn't doubt that the editorial section of their 24 hour network will start to defame leftist "gotchya" politics. As well put together as their daytime crew is, foxes other outlets sometimes go against grain.
That's definitely true. FOX isn't monolithic (though their consistancy in message is greater than anywhere else, and is a lot of the problem).
And more than that, they're also not generically right wing. They occupy a specific place in the right wing, and have a specific agenda, much of which is defined as much by personality clashes as by ideology. And, of course, whichever politician happens to be all for cosying up to Rupert Murdoch and helping him make loads of money. FOX loves Huckerbee, and they don't like Romney. And they really hate Ron Paul.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
Their hatred of Ron Paul is about the only thing I agree with them on.
Just for wildly different reasons.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
Jihadin wrote:Well what do you know about the Taliban Az. Remember their a grp of people I really....HATE...along with AQ and the insurgents. So to me labeling a grp the "Taliban" is below low. Yes I know its a show and yes I condemn the show for myself on that remark. So let me know what you know about them.
What I know about the Taliban, in a nutshell:
-Hardcore enforcers of Sharia Law, specifically of that found in the Sunnah (spelling?) combined with a bunch of arbitrary gak that I think Mullah Omar just kinda felt like one day.
-Committed multiple instances of ethnic cleansing.
-Scorched Earth policy against their own civilians, denied international food aid to them as well.
-Kidnap women for the purposes of human trafficking, despite their claims to adhering to Sharia Law.
That's the bullet-point version. Now, don't get me wrong. I hate them as well -and I do not use that term lightly. But if the Tea Party (perhaps not in its original form, but now that it has mutated into the -extreme- Christian right) was operating somewhere that they believed they would suffer no earthly repurcussions for their actions, I suspect they might behave in a similarly vicious and extreme manner, though obviously endorsing a different flavour of values.
Hmm, here I was thinking you didn't like making sweeping generalizations.
I guess it's okay to use them against people you hate.
Care to specifiy which sweeping generalizations? Because I'm pretty sure I can find you as many sources as need be to back up my knowledge of the Taliban.
Az your just touching the surface. Do you know a woman thats raped will be executed for adultry? Story recently about that. Does everyone else on this thread think the Tea Party is capable of pulling off a version of the Taliban here? We're a bit more educated then the Taliban for even letting that happen here.
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Capable is a different thing; I certainly think that many of the extremist religious types WANT to, though.
Although they'd prefer to be more like, say, Iran or Saudi Arabia.
The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
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Melissia wrote: Indeed, I actually read the Economist, myself. A few of their writers jump head over heels to try to kiss Romney's ass (and by extension, Ryan's, despite tearing in to his pathetic excuse for a "tax plan" that he pushed forth a few years ago), but personally as a whole they're one of the better newspapers.
And they've certainly got their sacred cows. Particularly their fixation of free market solutions to situations where no free market could ever meaningfully exist. But that's no different to any paper that's geared towards a certain political opinion.
But their currency in trade is the real world. This makes them very different to FOX, who not only tell lies, but tell absurd lies.
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“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
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