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 whembly wrote:

sirlynchmob wrote:

 whembly wrote:

lolwhut?

Oh you think elected officials actually represent you and are just trying to help save america.

How quaint.

You haven't been paying attention to me, eh?

I think they're all crooks...

But to make things betta... that's easy, repeal the 17th admendment.

Really thats your solution?

You don't think ending corporate personhood would help?
ending super pacs?
Enacting laws to stop the revolving door from corporate executive to elected official to lobbyist?
ending the electoral college and make the process easier for 3rd parties to get on the ballots in all the states?
term limits?

sirlynchmob wrote:

Spoiler:

 whembly wrote:

sirlynchmob wrote:

 whembly wrote:

lolwhut?

Oh you think elected officials actually represent you and are just trying to help save america.

How quaint.

You haven't been paying attention to me, eh?

I think they're all crooks...

But to make things betta... that's easy, repeal the 17th admendment.

Really thats your solution?

One of them... if repealed, then state government would have "more say" at the federal levels.

You don't think ending corporate personhood would help?

Not sure how it'll help.. so, I'm neutral to this.

ending super pacs?

So... you want to prevent free speech? At the very least, full disclosure should be required.

Enacting laws to stop the revolving door from corporate executive to elected official to lobbyist?

Good luck with that... how do you enforce this w/o stepping on 1st Amendment?

ending the electoral college

No... just no.

and make the process easier for 3rd parties to get on the ballots in all the states?

Agreed... why just a 3rd? ANY party... no limit.

term limits?

You mean lifetime term limit? (ala, the Prez) Sure, I'd go with that.

 Melissia wrote:
A bigger problem is the same people who don't care that Romney flies the flag of the Cayman Islands instead of the US flag-- and this is supposed to be a potential PRESIDENT-- gladly make up nonsense bout how Obama isn't loyal to the United States.

Well, it isn't his yacht. It was rented for campaign purposes.

Where is the yacht registered?

 Jihadin wrote:
Where is the yacht registered?

Entry here and here.

Just says that it's a charter vessel, not where it's registered though.

No biggie. Like Kerry yacht. Except it was register in Conn and docked in Conn. He was in line waiting for a berth in Mass. to move it to Mass.

 kronk wrote:

 Jihadin wrote:
Where is the yacht registered?

Entry here and here.

Just says that it's a charter vessel, not where it's registered though.

First link says this

First link wrote:The Country the Yacht is Flagged in: Cayman Islands - The official registry port is George Town and her home port is Fort Lauderdale, USA - Class society used: LR (Lloyds Register) - Completed survey under Maritime & Coastguard Agency (MCA)

So is Cracker Bay the name of where it is in port or the name of the ship?

 Ahtman wrote:
So is Cracker Bay the name of where it is in port or the name of the ship?

It seems to be the name of the ship...
It's an odd name to be fair but some ship's names are kinda weird...

Was everyone on the yacht white?

It's a name not a theme...
Just like how Queen Elizabeth II wasn't the only person allowed on the Queen Elizabeth II...
Though I bet she'd have fun driving the ship on her own

 LordofHats wrote:
Honestly, I want to know the story behind that name. Is it a place or random?

Crackers are basically Florida cowboys, so that might be part of the reasoning give that the home port if Ft. Lauderdale.

 Easy E wrote:
Cracker Bay.... well.... words fail me.

HEY! Dont make fun of my lair! *shakes fist*

Cracker is slang for white people.....

Aww, and I was thinking it was a bay made out of entirely waterproof saltines.

it's also a really old term for a Floridian, especially a rancher. We have a history festival called Cracker Country after all.

Most commercial passenger vessels serving the US are flagged elsewhere, for tax or legal reasons. Certainly the majority of cruise ships and rental luxury yachts, to my recollection.

 Mannahnin wrote:
Most commercial passenger vessels serving the US are flagged elsewhere, for tax or legal reasons. Certainly the majority of cruise ships and rental luxury yachts, to my recollection.

Are Canadian taxes more forgiving with respect to marine vehicles?

I visited Homer Bay, AK couple of years ago and saw a gak ton of ships reg at BC.

it also flies a flag that isn't well, American

http://www.chron.com/news/politics/article/ABC-News-Mitt-Romney-s-yacht-flying-Cayman-3828339.php


when you are running for US president maybe you should fly the US flag?

djones520 wrote:

 Mannahnin wrote:
Why?

Because so much of politics today has been reduced to "this politician did something scummy, shady, or stupid" "Oh yeah? Well so did THIS guy on YOUR team"?

Something about casting stones and glass houses...

When everyone in charge is living in a house of shattered glass, it is time to get out the broom...

I'd live in Yacht number 1 or 2.

A yacht with a castle on? Can't buy good taste
A yacht that's actually a floating parking lot? Nooooooo.

Anyway. I'm happy with my Laser.

 Kovnik Obama wrote:
I'd live in Yacht number 1 or 2.

A yacht with a castle on? Can't buy good taste
A yacht that's actually a floating parking lot? Nooooooo.

Anyway. I'm happy with my Laser.

Aaaaand now I'm picturing a shark with a frickin' Laser on it's head. With a terrified French-Canadian in the Laser.

feeder wrote:

 Kovnik Obama wrote:
I'd live in Yacht number 1 or 2.

A yacht with a castle on? Can't buy good taste
A yacht that's actually a floating parking lot? Nooooooo.

Anyway. I'm happy with my Laser.

Aaaaand now I'm picturing a shark with a frickin' Laser on it's head. With a terrified French-Canadian in the Laser.

You picture weird stuff
Just for clarification, a Laser's a dinghy. My dad being a huge sailing fan, AND and woodworker, I've had my own monosail since I was 16. Someone was about to trash it because of a few holes in the coque, so after a few months of epoxy works, I had my own free boat! Won me a few tournaments too!

Now I'm an Obama supporter, but kennedy did the same thing with his yacht I think. Didn't he have Maralin Monroe sing on that thing? Besides huff post is horribly biased to the left that even I can't stand it.

 yeri wrote:
Now I'm an Obama supporter, but kennedy did the same thing with his yacht I think. Didn't he have Maralin Monroe sing on that thing? Besides huff post is horribly biased to the left that even I can't stand it.

Don't you like knowing who has your potential president by the ballsack?

 Kovnik Obama wrote:
I'd live in Yacht number 1 or 2.

Yacht number 2 has an anti-missile system, and is longer than the Tantive IV.

Yes, but every politician has corporate lobbyists that do that stuff. That's how the game is played, that's how it's always been played. We're just getting a peek behind the curtain now.

The real pisser? A genuine American made super yacht, the USS Williamsburg, is sitting in Italy looking for someone to finance it's restoration.

When Harry Truman owned her:




Now:






Might notice what flag she flew. LOL

 BaronIveagh wrote:
The real pisser? A genuine American made super yacht, the USS Williamsburg, is sitting in Italy looking for someone to finance it's restoration.

When Harry Truman owned her

Harry Truman didn't own it, it was a Presidential Yacht.

Its also vastly inferior to the Cracker Bay in all respects, plus it would most likely be restored by European contractors at a higher price than simply chartering a functioning vessel.

 dogma wrote:

 Kovnik Obama wrote:
I'd live in Yacht number 1 or 2.

Yacht number 2 has an anti-missile system, and is longer than the Tantive IV.

This is still a civilian boat, right? Why the hell would you need an anti-missile system? You could sink that thing without spending millions of dollars in a missile...

Crazy russians...