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Consider me intreigued. Consider me also extremely low on time and working on a bazillion other projects... Remind me at the weekend, I'll have a look if possible.

I shall.

Minor update; a few updated weights, clarifications, weapon limits, etc.

OK, as an added incentive, anybody who playtests and helps me gets an exclusive book containing the rules.

 BlapBlapBlap wrote:
OK, as an added incentive, anybody who playtests and helps me gets an exclusive book containing the rules.

Well, its just my luck then I just finished playtesting a game

Justa few notes about my inexperience, and the fact that I was sologaming:
Being unaccustomed to the rules, I accidentally over-weighted most of the models (I was playing a 3v3), but I let them move at a rate of 1" a turn just to get a sort of feel for the game. I also hung the points value, and had the following miniatures from my collection:
Note: I may ahve made a mess of the weight characteristics. I wanted to play, not do math!

Team 1:
Kantus Monk (P:8, A:8, I:10, S:6, W:7) with 5+ armour, Small SMG, and standard melee.
Theron Guard (P:12, A:6, I:6, S:6, W:15) with 3+ armour, SAW, Club.
German Guardsman (P:6, A:8, I:8, S:6, W:10) with 4+ armour, Carbine and Knife.

Team 2:
British Sergeant (P:6, A:8, I:8, S:6, W:6) with 5+ armour, Shotgun and Knife.
Vostroyan Guardsman (P:8, A:8, I:6, S:4, W:11) with 4+ armour, Carbine and Knife.
Vostroyan Sergeant (P:8, A:6, I:8, S:4, W:11) with 4+ armour, Pistol and Knife.

The game was short, sweet and VERY fun, so I tip my hat to ye. I only used the basic rules, mind, just to find my feet. Here's what I found peculiar:

To find what you need to roll to hit, subtract your Accuracy from 7. It will only go to a
2; any excess that would lead to a number below 2 can be used later when it
becomes more difficult to hit. The extra points are essentially stockpiled until they are
needed, i.e. after taking a particular stance, then they are applied to the model.

This was during shooting, and it made me think a bit. Those extra points that are stockpiled (most of my models had 2 or 3 in excess!) go where, exactly?
because I didn't know, I used them as re-rolls for failed wounding rolls. I was probably in the wrong there. But in my mind, it was either do that, or use those points to add to the strength of the weapons, so I don't know

Also, when you say alternate turns, does this mean I move my team, you move your team etc, or is it alternating between moving individual models?

As you can see, I'm already asking questions about the basic rules You've probably gone over those issues a dozen times, so apologies in advance.

Thanks for the game though, it really was fun to play. The British Sergeant managed to kill the Theron Guard in single combat, albeit dying in the process
Unfortunately, the Brit was the last man on his team, so the Vostroyano-British alliance was smote by the Germano-Locusts

Alternating between teams.

I should probably change shooting a bit, but I meant that after negative modifiers you could take away extra points.

I could change it so that for every point more you have you get a better chance at wounding more...

Its a good thing I did team alternation then, eh?

I did quite like the re-roll system, made it feel that maybe those bullets may have found purchase instead of ricocheting off of armour and stuff with that darned clichéd *ping* noise

 BlapBlapBlap wrote:
OK, as an added incentive, anybody who playtests and helps me gets an exclusive book containing the rules.

Woohoo! I'm not gonna be able to get another one in this week because many of my friends are taking the SAT right now and we are going to rage tonight, but I'll see about next weekend

Reroll system?

Sorry, I can't remember...

Anyway, anything that could be patched up? Anything that could be added?

The reroll system was what I used for those 'excess points' of accuracy.

As far as adding things goes, you don't have a 'normal' rifle. I mean, you have the SMG and the Carbine, but those are all multiple shot weapons. You need something that is basically a long range pistol.

Maybe;
Automatic Rifle-
Strength: 3
Shots: 1
Range: 36"
Points: 2
Weight: 2

On that note, extend the Sniper Rifle range to 48". Make people really fear the sniper! But perhaps add rules for stand and shooting with certain weapons (you may already have that. Like I say, basic rules)

Sounds like a plan.

Also, stances:

Stances: At the beginning of moving a Character, you must choose what stance they are in, or state what stance they are forced to choose involuntarily. The only exception is if they choose to fight in combat, in which case they skip stances. The stances each confer advantages and disadvantages to the character, and go as follows:

Taking Cover: (only allowed when base is in contact with a piece of terrain). -1 to the amount that an enemy model has to roll to hit the character, but must be on opposite side of terrain to enemy to gain advantage.

Alert: The model must halve its movement, but in return, it gains +1 Accuracy against enemies.

Aiming: The model may not move, but gains +2 Accuracy and +1 Strength to their gun.

At Ease: The model uses its Basic Profile.

Sprinting: The model gains D6 extra movement, but may not make any attacks. Automatically counts as having 5+ armour.

So for snipers, perhaps count it as a normal rifle except for when in the Aiming position?

Mnnnhhhh...

Nhhhh...

Nah...

Blap, im finding the separates a little hard to go off. Could you link in a full, fully up-to-date one?

The one at the bottom, with the words 'LATEST VERSION'.

That is the Latest? I was wondering if there was a one that incorporated the latest changes on Stances and the like.

No, that's in there... No changes on Stances...

 Trondheim wrote:
Well so far I dont hate anything, but if you are going to start demanding GW prices will! However since you have stated you will not commit such a sin I will try to get a test done during this week.

I must say I do like your plot line, and setting. I almost got a Judge Dred feel when I read it

I definitely got the Judge Dred feel too . I love your setting and I'm interested, but getting to Waco to playtest is a bit impossible at the moment since my car is in the shop . When it's out, I'll see what my schedule allows me to do.

My fault, I misinterpreted this:

 BlapBlapBlap wrote:
Sounds like a plan.

Also, stances:

Stances: At the beginning of moving a Character, you must choose what stance they are in, or state what stance they are forced to choose involuntarily. The only exception is if they choose to fight in combat, in which case they skip stances. The stances each confer advantages and disadvantages to the character, and go as follows:

Taking Cover: (only allowed when base is in contact with a piece of terrain). -1 to the amount that an enemy model has to roll to hit the character, but must be on opposite side of terrain to enemy to gain advantage.

Alert: The model must halve its movement, but in return, it gains +1 Accuracy against enemies.

Aiming: The model may not move, but gains +2 Accuracy and +1 Strength to their gun.

At Ease: The model uses its Basic Profile.

Sprinting: The model gains D6 extra movement, but may not make any attacks. Automatically counts as having 5+ armour.

Sorry, just wondering:

Once this is on true release (hopefully in 2-3 months) do you think I'll be able to charge a small amount? I'm thinking of a small book and a PDF, plus eBook for iPad. in order to make it at all sustainable, I'm thinking £10 a piece at least...

Or I could have it hovering around here for free.

Are any of you willing to actually pay for this? If so, up to what?

I'm happy to have a look and play test it. I was working on a game of my own but due to time constraints I had to give it up. Good luck with this though.

Thanks.


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Could you live with a black and white format?

The only colour is in the table, and that's labelled...

It'll just make it cheaper upon release.

I wouldn't pay £10 for a saddle-stitched black & white rulebook that would have less pages than a WD.

If you look at magazines like WD, WI or Battlegames, they have full colour and plenty of stuff in a small format, mostly for just under or over a fiver.

Nhhhhhhh...

It would be well made. Blurb Bookstore.

How could I make it better then? What needs to be added?

Sod it, I'll release it for free on here, just tell me what I could to smooth it all off.

Colour (or good quality black and white) pictures of games 'in progress' would be pretty swell, as well as some diagrams to give examples. You need it to be as clear cut and simple as possible.

Break up the text wall with small boxes containing the 'how to do suchandsuch in a nutshell' (I really need something like this when working out the weight characteristic ). Also, have you been able to playtest it yourself a good few times?

Nope...

I probably should at some point.

Anyway, I can't really afford to get that many minis for a game... The box idea might be quite difficult to implement... I'll try, but I've tried to explain it best that I can.

 BlapBlapBlap wrote:
Sod it, I'll release it for free on here, just tell me what I could to smooth it all off.

I am not one to critique much, and this meant to be constructive, but that is probably best. The first "edition" of a game(before the actual first edition) is usually played between friends as something that will go well together. If you got some people to look in and enjoy it here on Dakka, you could potentially get a bigger sales boost because people will already know or have heard of, and can enjoy the game. If you get people who like your game and want to support you in your efforts (and if you keep working, I am sure they will) they will be happy to give you some money in return. It is best to have people who are happy to pay to support you as friends and fans of your gaming before trying to make a real customer base, if you understand what I mean.


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I am not sure if you have Vassal at all, but if you do, I could attempt to help with playtesting on there, it would take a lot of referencing, but it is all I can do to playtest living overseas.

Yeah, I suppose it could be done with the 4oK Vassal and some substitution of models.

Movement:

Replace "Minus" with "Subtract"

Have you thought at all about negative modifiers to armour, and increasing the range of armour available?

If you had your armour on the stat system for d12s (which is good) you could potentially represent everything from clothes (12+) as well as down to people with riot shields (maybe broken doors in case of the rebellion .. I think it would add a little more meat to your ruleset, and vary your content a little more.