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lollllllllllllllllllllll the CC oblits.

Someone will like them. I will just be using Ushabti from Tomb Kings.

That Sorcerer.... what... is it... beautiful..

 aka_mythos wrote:
I think we now know why the Fiends are pricey... those are pretty big...

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

It appears that GW is now going out of their way to make at least 1 horrible looking type of model per codex, and make it finecast.

Well the newer sculptors have to get practice somewhere... It sure beats that time they handed over the basic troop box of Chaos Space marines to the noob who openly admitted he just resculpted details over the loyalist marine kit.

Heh, fair enough. But why fine cast? That's a little expensive production wise for a test run, isn't it?

Just when I thought the Oblits couldn't get any uglier BAM! Although I will have to pick up some raptors and the Sorceror they look pretty cool, still undecided about the war sloths and dragon.

At first I thought the sorcerer was the aspiring champion and thought that would be another cool addition to a word bearer army.


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Also, sure as hell need those raptor weapons for more bezerkers

I actually like the Warpsmith. He reminds me of Jackie Estacado.



Come to think of, I think GW has been playing/reading the Darkness before work

In fact swapping the raptor heads and jet packs with khorne heads and backs and those are some dynamic epic looking bezerkers.

Hmmm... I'm not a fan of the Helldrake as a whole... but I think that head looks pretty good.

Also on Warseer they're saying this artwork is being recycled as the codex's cover:

The fiends look a little strange. I see what they were trying to do (I think). But it looks really forced especially the heads. The tongues on the Dragon and the fiend is a touch too much.

Outside of the CC Oblits, the chaos marine models look great.

 unmercifulconker wrote:
In fact swapping the raptor heads and jet packs with khorne heads and backs and those are some dynamic epic looking bezerkers.

Pretty much what I was thinking and then you could use any spare heads and arms to spice up the standard CSM box.

 Killmaimburnkillmaimburn wrote:

 unmercifulconker wrote:
In fact swapping the raptor heads and jet packs with khorne heads and backs and those are some dynamic epic looking bezerkers.

Pretty much what I was thinking and then you could use any spare heads and arms to spice up the standard CSM box.

the plot thickens

Edit: Khorne on the cover?

 aka_mythos wrote:
Hmmm... I'm not a fan of the Helldrake as a whole... but I think that head looks pretty good.

I on the other hand think the heads on both the dragon and the fiends are the reasons why they don't click with people. Remove them and you're suddenly in a more familiar "WTF Cha0s iS crAzY" territory. They're simply to close to naturally occurring shapes to be scary monsters of metal and flesh. Sometimes less is more.

stormboy wrote:
The fiends look a little strange. I see what they were trying to do (I think). But it looks really forced especially the heads. The tongues on the Dragon and the fiend is a touch too much.

That is why you have a modelling knife and a pair of clippers.

I like all of the models except the Dragon and now the CC Obliterators. I am hopeful the Dragon can be converted up to look good (or possibly just looks better then we've seen), but those Obliterators are laughably bad.

Good God. Those Raptors look much better than the Warp Talons. Dark Apostle is also excellent.

Can't say much for those Oblits though. Eh... :/

Was this image missed? Is that Angron?

The fiends look a lot better, with the updated pics.

The CC oblits..the face.. just. I'll still end up buying a box, but come on...

New Raptors look great, The Dark Apostle is super busy.

No signs of a Chosen/Cultist box. I really hope I don't have buy a whole bunch of DV to get those.

 Eiríkr wrote:
Good God. Those Raptors look much better than the Warp Talons. Dark Apostle is also excellent.

Can't say much for those Oblits though. Eh... :/

Was this image missed? Is that Angron?

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Wait, I thought the raptors were the warp talons. Can someone post a comparison? I'm confused.

Not a bad range so far some definite purchases (raptors, warpsmith,sorceror) some maybes (War sloth,dragon) and some no way (Oblits..god why).
Is this it then or is there still more to come as I am intrigued about whether or not cultists will get their own box or if you just have to raid ebay for Dark Vengeance left overs.

I really hope those obliterator heads are easy to remove.

RE: Dragon
I heard somewhere that the kit comes with all kinds of options depending on your chaos affiliation.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Eiríkr wrote:
Good God. Those Raptors look much better than the Warp Talons. Dark Apostle is also excellent.

Can't say much for those Oblits though. Eh... :/

Was this image missed? Is that Angron?

Spoiler:

Wait, I thought the raptors were the warp talons. Can someone post a comparison? I'm confused.

They're apparently a dual unit box, there's quite a bit of overlap in detail between the two.

Everyoen is panicking about the new look to Chaos...this is only the new units!

I am fairly sure you will still be able to put plain old marines in plain old Rhinos if you want to. The Chosen and Warp Talons are more "busy" and ostentacious is (i'm guessing) because they are Elite warriors - think of them as the Chaos versions of Sternguard and Vanguard if it makes it easier. These would be the guys who HAVE been around for 10,000 years.

The reason the War(p)smith looks like a Techmarine is because they WERE techmarines. Simples.

See, credit where it is due, I actually do like the new Raptors. Along with the Black Knights for VC earlier this year, they may be one of my favourite kits of the year.

 Sasori wrote:


No signs of a Chosen/Cultist box. I really hope I don't have buy a whole bunch of DV to get those.

Those, as well as the Dread/Helbrute will be in a later wave, to keep us buying DV as long as possible.

Seeing the size comparison shots of the fiends makes me like them even more. I just hope they are more survivable than the rumored 12/12/10. That is a lot of points (and money!) to spend on a model that is as easy to kill as a dread.

 Eiríkr wrote:


Was this image missed? Is that Angron?

Gotta be. He's pounding on heresy-era WE and DG.

Guys relax it appears the 5man raptor kit has all the jump kit options.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 aka_mythos wrote:
Hmmm... I'm not a fan of the Helldrake as a whole... but I think that head looks pretty good.

I on the other hand think the heads on both the dragon and the fiends are the reasons why they don't click with people. Remove them and you're suddenly in a more familiar "WTF Cha0s iS crAzY" territory. They're simply to close to naturally occurring shapes to be scary monsters of metal and flesh. Sometimes less is more.

I just think its a neat bit separate from the rest. I think I'll have to see the Helldrake in person if there is any hope for improving my opinion.

At present I'm thinking I'll end up using the a defiler to convert something that looks a bit like dragonfly. I'm just appreciating the details, since I'm not likely to use that kit.


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 Eiríkr wrote:


Was this image missed? Is that Angron?

Spoiler:

No he wasn't... he was just posted in the FW horus heresy thread... to keep this one on topic. If you go to where I first repost the pictures the last line under the two is a link to the other Dakka thread.

Raptors and Sorcerer look great!

Dark Apostle is trying too hard. He'll be great with a new head and without the halo.

CC Obliterators... whyyyy? The worst models in the wave by a huge margin.

Angron... okay.

Liking the daemon engines even more now.

I seem to be in the minority, but after looking over them several times, I don't like any of the models except the new Raptors (but not the Warptalons), personally.

Be interesting to see how the rules pan out.

Yep. Codex is my main worry

I already have minis.

Well after seeing the first batch of photos i was getting ready to sell all my DV models. This second set has prevented that. The Raptors are WAY better than the Warptalons and at least one of the builds of fiend looks awesome. The character models are ok too but i was really hoping that we would see some of the plastic characters that WFB has enjoyed. I reckon theres still enough good stuff here for me to build a decent force but i really hope that that dragon isnt the only flyer in the codex.......

Robbietobbie wrote:your comparison is still silly

I fail to see why both you and H.B.M.C. thought I was making a comparison.