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2012/09/20 17:45:05
Subject: CSM Roundup (added boon table/warlord traits)
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Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances
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lord_blackfang wrote:...
There is a Power Scourge in the melee weapon list. S8 AP2 and a special rule I don't understand. Thunderhammers are in!
Isn't the power scourge this old Chaos Dreadnought weapon?
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2012/09/20 17:45:44
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
Battle Barge Impossible Fortress
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Oh and btw, I think the Flames of Tzeentch power is actually d6+1 strength instead of a flat Strength 5 like what was posted earlier.
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2012/09/20 17:48:24
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added Tastytaste's drip-drip)
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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 Sunoccard wrote: CthuluIsSpy wrote:orkybenji wrote: CthuluIsSpy wrote:Ok, why is it such a good thing to have a D66 table? Isn't that just needlessly complicated? I mean, you have to, what, memorize 30 results?
If you buy the codex you don't have to memorize anything...
Yes, because consulting the rules every time you win a challenge won't slow down the game at all.
We already have that problem with the BRB, there is no need to make it worse.
A problem will be having to keep a fething notepad to remember who has what rules/ abilities / psychic powers etc. I mean holy crap how many things do I have to select/ roll for to start a game?
Yeah, that's right!
And it looks like aspiring champs (you know, squad upgrades) will have access to this as well, meaning you could have like 5+ guys running around with special rules, in additions to the spells, buffs, curses, etc.
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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2012/09/20 17:49:27
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Foxy Wildborne
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There's a few tidbits BramGaunt missed when typing it up. Like that Slaaneshy power giving +1 Strength only for sonic attacks.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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2012/09/20 17:50:24
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
Battle Barge Impossible Fortress
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Yeah but I'm sure we will survive.
Since he took the time out to provide people with info !
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2012/09/20 17:50:57
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Freelance Soldier
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Looks like the traitors trained their juggers well if they can drive them to run as fast as seekers! Bloodletters could learn a thing or two from these guys.
Did anyone tell Kelly 'ichor' means 'blood'? Blood blood? Seriously...
Why would anyone take the Mark of Nurgle on the DP, unless they intend to keep him behind cover and... shoot things with him? If it can even take a gun or a psychic shooting attack. He already has a 5++ after all... Are DP's attacks no longer AP2? If they are, why would you need Rending? It's a miniscule help against vehicles.
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2012/09/20 17:52:15
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Irked Necron Immortal
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didn't anything on the first page about psyker levels, do we have any clue what they are going to be?
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2012/09/20 17:54:50
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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 -DE- wrote:Looks like the traitors trained their juggers well if they can drive them to run as fast as seekers! Bloodletters could learn a thing or two from these guys.
Did anyone tell Kelly 'ichor' means 'blood'? Blood blood? Seriously...
YES! Awesome! It's "Wolf McWolf with his Wolf Claws etc." all over again! 
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2012/09/20 17:56:46
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Changing Our Legion's Name
Boston
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 Brometheus wrote: Mr. Balloon Hands wrote: Brometheus wrote:Doesn't seem like there's any new special characters. I think Alpha Legion will be just fine with this book. Especially if they roll d3 infiltrating units on the warlord traits
and if they dont?? then what do they have?? i mean really?
lol.. Not to be a martyr here, but Thousand Sons aren't exactly OMGlookhowmuchGWrepresentsus.
Adapt and overcome, my friend. We can all get through this book, I'm sure.
I know. I am just being a negitive Nancy today. Sooo F-ing board at work..
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2012/09/20 17:57:01
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Sneaky Kommando
Gothenburgish
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*still can't get over the fact that nurgle plague marines are more survivable than Nurgle Terminators*...
So, is the rumour that apostles give units they join FnP still carrying? Though with the rumoured boost apostles would give plaguemarines a 4+ FnP, meaning they're still more survivable...
*grumble grumble grumble*
though, I gotta say, those Tszentch psy-powers really make me feel like starting 1k sons... That 2d6" vehicle explodes sounds like FUN...
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2012/09/20 17:59:05
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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 Jag_Calle wrote:*still can't get over the fact that nurgle plague marines are more survivable than Nurgle Terminators*...
So, is the rumour that apostles give units they join FnP still carrying? Though with the rumoured boost apostles would give plaguemarines a 4+ FnP, meaning they're still more survivable...
*grumble grumble grumble*
though, I gotta say, those Tszentch psy-powers really make me feel like starting 1k sons... That 2d6" vehicle explodes sounds like FUN...
We don't know what options Terminators get yet though.
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2012/09/20 18:00:08
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Freelance Soldier
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I know, right?
Anyway, here's more: why does the Nurgle Icon grant Fear, but the Slaanesh one grants FnP? Yes, you can explain that by fluff, every single god could grant FnP by fluff logic, but it is jarring to have Plague Marines and Plaguebearers have FnP, while Nurgle cultists and marines don't, meanwhile Slaanesh daemons are some of the most fragile in the game, yet Slaanesh marines have FnP... that Noise Marines don't have? Unless Plagues lose FnP and gain Fear ( WTF?) and Noises lose +1I and get FnP...
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2012/09/20 18:00:13
Subject: CSM Roundup (added boon table/warlord traits)
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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 aka_mythos wrote:lord_blackfang wrote:...
There is a Power Scourge in the melee weapon list. S8 AP2 and a special rule I don't understand. Thunderhammers are in!
Isn't the power scourge this old Chaos Dreadnought weapon?
That's it.
I get the reaction to all the tables on some level. On the other hand, previous editions of this game featured tables, and many games were played with much enjoyment and minimal brain hemorrages.
Edit: I'm going to guess that certain aspects of this codex -- profiles, marks, etc. -- will also carry over to the Daemons codex.
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2012/09/20 18:00:15
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
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So far chaos isn't looking particularly strong.
We need to see points.
Nothing stands out as being OP though (a shame as I thought we might deserve it).
Also, not much in the way of characterful stuff. I hope we get a full page of wargear for each legion.
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2012/09/20 18:01:30
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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-DE- wrote:Looks like the traitors trained their juggers well if they can drive them to run as fast as seekers! Bloodletters could learn a thing or two from these guys.
Did anyone tell Kelly 'ichor' means 'blood'? Blood blood? Seriously...
Why would anyone take the Mark of Nurgle on the DP, unless they intend to keep him behind cover and... shoot things with him? If it can even take a gun or a psychic shooting attack. He already has a 5++ after all... Are DP's attacks no longer AP2? If they are, why would you need Rending? It's a miniscule help against vehicles.
Well, a Seeker of Slaanesh grants +3 to their run, outflank and no Fleet? If the Daemon Prince is any indication of Daemons getting a power boost, juggers might get calvary in the future Daemon codex.
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2012/09/20 18:01:38
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Beautiful and Deadly Keeper of Secrets
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-DE- wrote:Looks like the traitors trained their juggers well if they can drive them to run as fast as seekers! Bloodletters could learn a thing or two from these guys.
Did anyone tell Kelly 'ichor' means 'blood'? Blood blood? Seriously...
Why would anyone take the Mark of Nurgle on the DP, unless they intend to keep him behind cover and... shoot things with him? If it can even take a gun or a psychic shooting attack. He already has a 5++ after all... Are DP's attacks no longer AP2? If they are, why would you need Rending? It's a miniscule help against vehicles.
Rending also works on ranged weaponry
Not to mention you move from cover to cover and have a 2+ cover save instead of normal, and the psyker abilities are nice to shoot with.
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2012/09/20 18:01:44
Subject: CSM Roundup (added boon table, finecast upgrade packs, and it's called AhriPERSON not Ahriman, lolz)
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
We'll find out soon enough eh.
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 matphat wrote:I can't express how happy I am that this line of models doesn't speak to my particular aesthetics. It means I wont be down another several hundred dollars and months of painting time.
I really do appreciate how well sculpted they are though. Top quality work. Just not my cup of tea.
Have fun with these guys!
Here now, stop that this instant. This is a thread about a GW new-release dontcha know, you're not allowed to make reasonable observations or polite refusals, it's "HURPA DURRRR DINOBUTTS" or nothing!
I'm not liking the face or toilet paper on the Apostle, but it has some potential, and I think I'll be converting up a Dark Mechanicus Magos if I decide to field a Warpsmith; I know the model is supposed to be a nod to Iron Warriors players, but it's not nearly twisted and mutated enough for my tastes.
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I need to acquire plastic Skavenslaves, can you help?
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2012/09/20 18:02:03
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Anointed Dark Priest of Chaos
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Why is it that Chaos is starting to look like a Warmachine/Hordes army?
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2012/09/20 18:02:43
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Nurgle Veteran Marine with the Flu
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 lunarman wrote:So far chaos isn't looking particularly strong.
We need to see points.
Nothing stands out as being OP though (a shame as I thought we might deserve it).
Also, not much in the way of characterful stuff. I hope we get a full page of wargear for each legion.
You can't say what is under or over powered until we ve seen points.
And as I recall we haven't.
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2012/09/20 18:03:47
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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The fact you can't field Plague Terminators with FNP is a bunch of crap.
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2012/09/20 18:03:55
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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Jag_Calle wrote:*still can't get over the fact that nurgle plague marines are more survivable than Nurgle Terminators*...
So, is the rumour that apostles give units they join FnP still carrying? Though with the rumoured boost apostles would give plaguemarines a 4+ FnP, meaning they're still more survivable...
Both apparently:
Dark Apostles
It's correct in how they are purchased and that they confer abilities to the unit they're in.
They universally confer fearless(because they are fearless) and furious charge. Beyond those two, the abilities that they add to the unit are not as good as the ones you have posted, and in some cases not even remotely similar.
Dark Apostles's are more along the lines of watered down cult troops, but if added to a cult unit they still "bolster" the cult units effects.
i.e. Dark Apostle in a Plague Marine unit get FnP 4+ instead of 5+, or confers a 5+ to a unit of marines or cultists.
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2012/09/20 18:05:21
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Nurgle Veteran Marine with the Flu
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 Amaya wrote:The fact you can't field Plague Terminators with FNP is a bunch of crap.
It is. But we ve lived without it before this dex. So we will keep on.
Oh and btw many things suck in he 41st millennia and they are to from this dex only.
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2012/09/20 18:05:46
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Freelance Soldier
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 ZebioLizard2 wrote: -DE- wrote:Looks like the traitors trained their juggers well if they can drive them to run as fast as seekers! Bloodletters could learn a thing or two from these guys.
Did anyone tell Kelly 'ichor' means 'blood'? Blood blood? Seriously...
Why would anyone take the Mark of Nurgle on the DP, unless they intend to keep him behind cover and... shoot things with him? If it can even take a gun or a psychic shooting attack. He already has a 5++ after all... Are DP's attacks no longer AP2? If they are, why would you need Rending? It's a miniscule help against vehicles.
Rending also works on ranged weaponry
Not to mention you move from cover to cover and have a 2+ cover save instead of normal, and the psyker abilities are nice to shoot with.
A DP doesn't have any ranged weapons, and he'd get a 3+ cover with Shrouded. Still, taking a combat monster and outfitting him with a single shooting power is not what I'd call the smartest use of points. Plus, you pay for Shrouded with SnP already, who'd pay points for SnP? Kind of a pointless mark if you ask me.
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2012/09/20 18:06:46
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
Battle Barge Impossible Fortress
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Not sure about mastery levels.. 1 for AC's, up to 3 for HQs
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2012/09/20 18:09:10
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Freelance Soldier
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Oh joy, Lords and (I assume) Champions must *always* accept and issue challenges. That's going to end so well...
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2012/09/20 18:09:40
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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And get boons for winning them.
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2012/09/20 18:10:20
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Stalwart Tribune
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Ichor ( I - chor )
1. Greek Mythology The rarefied fluid said to run in the veins of the gods.
2. Pathology A watery, acrid discharge from a wound or ulcer.
I think he was using the 2nd one there. Also I don't get where you see Ichor just meaning blood.
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2012/09/20 18:11:07
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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@carabine: Shh. You're ruining the trite internet commentary!
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2012/09/20 18:12:23
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Freelance Soldier
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Ichor was the name of the blood of gods in Greek mythology. It's like saying 'gore blood'.
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2012/09/20 18:12:28
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Hoary Long Fang with Lascannon
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I like what I see. I hope the rest of the book makes it all mesh together.
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