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**avedominusnox**

Oh and do we have any idea what will be able to grab flesh metal armor?

**kronk**

Possessed? Obliterators? Not sure.

**avedominusnox**

kronk wrote:
Possessed? Obliterators? Not sure.

Was hoping for the Chaos lord too. Maybe I m asking too much.
Maybe warpsmith too.

**kronk**

avedominusnox wrote:

Was hoping for the Chaos lord too. Maybe I m asking too much.
Maybe warpsmith too.

Chaos Lord? Perhaps as an upgrade.

**aka_mythos**

This has been bothering me... maybe I'm just misremebering... or I'm delusional... but I vaguely remember seeing these Maulers some time ago... that they were alternate Obliterator bodies that were sculpted at the same time as those but GW just didn't release. They had the standard obliterator arms, but I just remember these because of how "ugh" their faces were. Its just a vague recollection of them being randomly in the background of a picture in WD and someone posted on a forum inquiring. IF I'm remembering correctly thats generally a good sign as it would reinforce the notion that these are a stop gap.

**sennacherib**

Not super stoked on the look of the new demon engine models. They are nice models but they look a bit too much like kid toys than something that i would expect from gw.

I will however likely pick up some forgeworld models, then convert until i am satisfied.

**Samus_aran115**

aka_mythos wrote:
This has been bothering me... maybe I'm just misremebering... or I'm delusional... but I vaguely remember seeing these Maulers some time ago... that they were alternate Obliterator bodies that were sculpted at the same time as those but GW just didn't release. They had the standard obliterator arms, but I just remember these because of how "ugh" their faces were. Its just a vague recollection of them being randomly in the background of a picture in WD and someone posted on a forum inquiring. IF I'm remembering correctly thats generally a good sign as it would reinforce the notion that these are a stop gap.

I remember something like that. I remember seeing a thread about the new daemon prince several months, if not at least a year earlier than it was released, where a silhouette had appeared in something. There were whisperings of broken casts, and all sorts of things.

These look similar to chosen, in their style, and paint jobs. Lots of abrupt angles and weird stretched out, smooth things.

**Red Corsair**

Just read siege crawler. Move as beasts +1 pen to fortifications. If defilers get beasts as their type this could explain the price hike that was rumored. Triple defiler rushes could be awesome.

**lord_blackfang**

Red Corsair wrote:
Just read siege crawler. Move as beasts +1 pen to fortifications. If defilers get beasts as their type this could explain the price hike that was rumored. Triple defiler rushes could be awesome.

I can't imagine why Defilers would get anti-fortification rules when it's the other walker that has built-in melta cutters.

**TBD**

When I click on this thread I repeatedly get a popup login screen from Heresy-online.net asking for a authentication code. It also says "under maintenance".

Do I need to report this somewhere, and if yes, where?

**Red Corsair**

Their fluff was siege engine IIRC

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TBD wrote:
When I click on this thread I repeatedly get a popup login screen from Heresy-online.net asking for a authentication code. It also says "under maintenance".

Do I need to report this somewhere, and if yes, where?

Same here

**Jag_Calle**

Hmm. Too bad that everything hits walkers easilly now, would have loved to use a CC fitted dread now that they're not TOTALLY bonkers... Darnit.

Hmm...

**kronk**

Red Corsair wrote:
Their fluff was siege engine IIRC

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TBD wrote:
When I click on this thread I repeatedly get a popup login screen from Heresy-online.net asking for a authentication code. It also says "under maintenance".

Do I need to report this somewhere, and if yes, where?

Same here

It's people's Heresy Online pets not working. There is a thread about it here.

**pretre**

Just turn off signatures in your profile for now, that fixes it.

**Samus_aran115**

The pop up window had to do with my signature picture. Well, not just me, but everyone who uses the daemon adoptables. Sorry. I just got rid of it.

**Alpharius**

Most of this stuff eventually grows on me/I can live with.

But the new Obliterators are just pants.

**redrooster148**

looks good when i take a break from eldar these might be my new army untill the eldar codex is out......

**Samus_aran115**

Alpharius wrote:
Most of this stuff eventually grows on me/I can live with.

But the new Obliterators are just pants.

You can't live without pants though!

Related.. I like them. I've painted the metal ones. They're heavy, they have sharp bits all over them, and they sit awkwardly on their bases. From what I can tell, these have an almost identical level of detail. If not more. That's all I care about, really. I can put a mask over his face if it's so terribly ugly.

**Yodhrin**

Also, for those who really, absolutely, positively cannot stomach the 'fiends; Dark Mechanicum Knights, anyone?

**Alpharius**

Samus_aran115 wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
Most of this stuff eventually grows on me/I can live with.

But the new Obliterators are just pants.

You can't live without pants though!

Related.. I like them. I've painted the metal ones. They're heavy, they have sharp bits all over them, and they sit awkwardly on their bases. From what I can tell, these have an almost identical level of detail. If not more. That's all I care about, really. I can put a mask over his face if it's so terribly ugly.

You should know, you can live without pants!

And it is one of my favorite British sayings - and I can't live without it.

And, more importantly, I repeat - the new Oblits are pants!

**lord_blackfang**

Samus_aran115 wrote:

You can't live without pants though!

I can. It's just that other people can't live with me living without pants.

**UNCLEBADTOUCH**

I will be getting the codex but using none of the models to rock sme mechanicus

**Scottywan82**

Alpharius wrote:
Samus_aran115 wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
Most of this stuff eventually grows on me/I can live with.

But the new Obliterators are just pants.

You can't live without pants though!

Related.. I like them. I've painted the metal ones. They're heavy, they have sharp bits all over them, and they sit awkwardly on their bases. From what I can tell, these have an almost identical level of detail. If not more. That's all I care about, really. I can put a mask over his face if it's so terribly ugly.

You should know, you can live without pants!

And it is one of my favorite British sayings - and I can't live without it.

And, more importantly, I repeat - the new Oblits are pants!

Hear hear! Pants is also a favorite British-ism of mine. And Americans who say it don't sound like donkey-caves. Unlike when Americans say "cheers, mate." Then you should be shot.

**Jayden63**

I'm seeing a lot of good things that will synergize well.

I know I'm putting Derge Casters on anything that can carry them. Finally something to help our poor damonettes in assault. I also expect to see several derge caster carrying allies for DE.

An even though my army is Emperors Children, the Nurgle power that makes all the gun get hot just makes me giggle every time I think of it.

**Kanluwen**

Alpharius wrote:
Most of this stuff eventually grows on me/I can live with.

But the new Obliterators are just pants.

Silver and I were discussing Obliterators just this morning.

We came to the conclusion that until they stop trying to make the flesh appear to be "morphing", the models for Obliterators (and to a lesser extent, the Possessed) will continue to suck.

**Leth**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Red Corsair wrote:
Just read siege crawler. Move as beasts +1 pen to fortifications. If defilers get beasts as their type this could explain the price hike that was rumored. Triple defiler rushes could be awesome.

I can't imagine why Defilers would get anti-fortification rules when it's the other walker that has built-in melta cutters.

213

Because fortifications are auto hit and that means two strength 8 ap 1 armor bane attacks for free guaranteed. I will take that over +1 dmg against fortifications

Also those slanneshi powers seem to synergize well will their basic troop, as does the nurgle ones.

**timetowaste85**

Dr. Delorean wrote:
*Raises Gun to temple* can some please justify this, cause I'm going to have to sell one of my kidneys.

Hang on a sec, *puts on shining white plate mail*

Firstly, it's hardback, which no magazine is (to my knowledge, anyway), secondly, it's far better bound and constructed, so it'll stand up to more wear and tear, and thirdly, unlike most magazines, it isn't predominantly advertising, I think the only thing you could really call advertising are the model pictures, but they usually only take up five or six pages anyway.

And, not that it'll make you feel any better, but, it's a new army release, that's as good an excuse for a price rise as any.

One day unfortunately, the rest of the world will have to pay Australian prices, and yea verily, we shall come to the End of Days.

What's the excuse then of making the books cost more than Fantasy books of the same hardcoverness? Are players expected to pay more for the grimdark seasoning they sprinkle onto the codex that doesn't make it onto the Fantasy army book? Granted, it's only a $4 difference (still bullgak), but there is no excuse for a $50 book for ONE. SINGLE. ARMY. There is no justification for that.

**lucasbuffalo**

Question:
I thought it was determined that all powers had to be from one lore, yet the Demon Princes say 'at least one must be from their lores'. So, does this mean we get to get spells from multiple lores (such as Tzeentch and Pyromancy together for example) on one model? The wording has me wondering.

**Leth**

Then....dont......buy.....it?

The only justification would be that if the projections for sales made it so that the most amount of profit could be made at that price point.

**CthuluIsSpy**

So there are 2 versions of the rulebook? 1 Hardback and pricy, and 1 paperback and slightly less pricy?