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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 12:47:32
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Tunneling Trygon
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I've got a helbrute with one big eye for a Pilot.
He looks pretty good and it fits really well
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Grimtuff wrote: GW want the full wrath of their Gestapo to come down on this new fangled Internet and it's free speech.
A Town Called Malus wrote: Draigo is a Mat Ward creation. They don't follow the same rules as everyone else. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 12:49:23
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith
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And I'v got the White Dwarf magazine. MAOAHAHA!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 12:51:03
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Nurgle Veteran Marine with the Flu
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Quick take some pics or even better scan and give as some happiness too.
I won't grab it till the end of the next week.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 12:52:02
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Rakear wrote:Amusing how the special rules rotate from codex to codex.
in 3rd ed, Khorne zerker champs had feel no pain, Plague marines did not have it all (they had true grit).
in 4th ed, plague marines got feel no pain
in 6th ed, slaanesh gets feel no pain.
at that rate the next chaos codex will give it to thousand sons (pretty sure dust has no pain receptors  )
This! People complaining about FNP need to realize that was a 4th change. One that made PMs the only viable cult choice. Now, FNP is reduced in effectiveness and switched again to a lower T unit. But if you really want the 5+, just do counts as. PMs do need to come down in price, though, as I 3 T5 Poison isn't that great. That being said, the bar set by Grey Knights and GHs seems to indicate CSM should be much cheaper all around. Cult troops shouldn't break 20 points with all the bells and whistles. After all, a GK comes standard with a power weapon, stormbolter, and fearless with squad psyker powers to be S5, have a Force weapon, etc. Charging 20 points for a fearless MEQ with a stat bump here and a special rule there still seems overpriced. Additionally, it also seems like CSM remain sub par Grey Hunters. While not having Acute Senses doesn't really matter (but it is still a perk that should be costed appropriately) the loss of ATSKNF makes CSM markedly worse to the tune of probably 2-3 points per model. Even with re-roll LD, it still comes nowhere close to autorally and should be a 2 point break.
My concern is that if CSM has a subpar core, even with shiny new toys, it will still either 1) funnel players into limited builds (see current C: CSM) or 2) be pretty much useless (see C:Eldar).
On the upside, I hope NMs are really good as I have a nicely painted Heresy EC force that would love to see play (or at least get a good price for  ). Looks like my converted PMs may have to go up for sale sooner rather than later though....
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-James
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 12:54:01
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Exergy wrote:anyone point me to a better/bigger picture of the dark apostle? I looked through the thread and only found a really tiny one.
Page 27, under Red Corsair's post.
It's hidden by a spoiler alert.
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 12:54:51
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Wicked Canoptek Wraith
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I cant, Im at work right now and believe it or not I have no smart phone. And I feel its a bit risky just putting photos here on my account.. or no?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 12:58:43
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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pretre wrote:You mean you have to roll on a warlord table just like you've been doing all of 6th?
I've never rolled on it since I've never played 6th
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 13:19:15
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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tripsix wrote: Starfarer wrote:the FNP for Slaanesh and not Nurgle, but whatever. I've been wanting to expand my Death Guard to include a Fabius Bile led enhanced warrior contingent for awhile, so I'm going with that and am just going to have fun with the new rules.
What does bother me is not only do we not get new special character, we don't get a single new sculpt for our existing special characters. I was really excited for a new Kharn sculpt, and hoping for a new Bile sculpt. Considering all the new SM sculpts that are made year in, year out, anything new for special characters sculpts after 10-16 years of the same sculpts would be welcome.
I was hoping for some new sculpts too, Kharne is a bit overdue, a new Abbadon would have been nice too.
Speculation on my part -- from now on, we're going to see the kits for the brand new units prioritized for the launch, in order to avoid Chapterhouse-type situations. Then we'll see replacement models in later waves.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 13:25:26
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I think the biggest priority should be a reworking of the regular chaos marines. The current ones no longer fit the new aesthetic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 13:33:40
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Incubus
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There is no longer a getting started section for Chaos Marines on Games Workshop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 13:35:42
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Nurgle Veteran Marine with the Flu
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If anyone can scan his WD so we can take a look...
Oh goss I hoped that they will release the digital version today but it will be tomorrow, Saturday..
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 13:46:41
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
Battle Barge Impossible Fortress
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I'm done updating this thread. Feel free to start a new one if new info comes about.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 13:47:04
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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MeanGreenStompa wrote:I think the biggest priority should be a reworking of the regular chaos marines. The current ones no longer fit the new aesthetic.
So true... But I'd add the Cult Marines/Iron Warriors/Night Lords to the "to do" list as well. Finecast bits taken from the old moulds? That was lazy...
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War does not determine who is right - only who is left. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 13:48:14
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Incubus
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Brometheus wrote:I'm done updating this thread. Feel free to start a new one if new info comes about.
Thank you for all your work Bro.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 13:50:42
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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I'll Be Back
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Lol 39€ for the Codex
no Komment
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3000 points
1250 points painted
1800 points
0 points painted
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 14:04:27
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Agent_Tremolo wrote: MeanGreenStompa wrote:I think the biggest priority should be a reworking of the regular chaos marines. The current ones no longer fit the new aesthetic.
So true... But I'd add the Cult Marines/Iron Warriors/Night Lords to the "to do" list as well. Finecast bits taken from the old moulds? That was lazy...
To be honest i never saw the appeal in the iron Warris upgrade bits. None of it seemed especially Iron Warriors-y. it would have been better (and made them more money) if GW produced a pack of back-packs with servo arms.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 14:07:05
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Tunneling Trygon
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Not all the iron warriors would have them though...
Only the Warsmiths and maybe Champions though?
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Grimtuff wrote: GW want the full wrath of their Gestapo to come down on this new fangled Internet and it's free speech.
A Town Called Malus wrote: Draigo is a Mat Ward creation. They don't follow the same rules as everyone else. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 14:16:09
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
Battle Barge Impossible Fortress
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You're welcome Rivet but the mods did a few updates to the first post and Pretre provided a lot of good pictures along with Brother SRM.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 14:18:33
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
USA
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Check out my list building app for 40K and Fantasy:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/576793.page |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 14:19:50
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Nurgle Veteran Marine with the Flu
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 14:21:50
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Bounding Assault Marine
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MeanGreenStompa wrote:I think the biggest priority should be a reworking of the regular chaos marines. The current ones no longer fit the new aesthetic.
Agree here. With all the extra detail added to the DV chosen, standard chaos marines could use some more frills!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 14:23:24
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Judgemental Grey Knight Justicar
USA
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Meade wrote: probably have icons that can deep strike in the daemons...
I want this so bad I would trade someone's kidney for it (but not mine of course).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 14:24:27
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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was referring to fluffwise. Any space marine can take a huge wound and get back up, keep on going... but for the sake of GW selling many marine models they must be reduced to their present statline
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 14:27:22
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice
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TheLionOfTheForest wrote: dracpanzer wrote:
As far as the look of the models, hearing Chaos players complain about how models look straight out of the box is just shameful. Chaos is MEANT TO BE CONVERTED!!! Think the fiends look a bit like dino whatevers?
This is exactly how I feel about Chaos and Orks (nids to a lesser extent)... you basically have cart blanche to do whatever you want to the model to fit whatever theme you want. I have DV and love all the models in it. Even though the hell brute looks cool all I could think about was how cool it would look with scales and if the tentacles were snakes bursting from it. I want to do another hellbrute with an eyeball in the middle where the pilot is... just really simple conversions that you can do with greenstuff and end up with a totally awesome and unique looking model.
I have heard the kit bash argument to death and the bottom line is, if we are forced to pay these idioti prices then the models SHOULD look awesome out of the box. As if I want to purchase a Necrosphinx AND a Fiend to arrive at one good looking unit Automatically Appended Next Post: CthuluIsSpy wrote: Exergy wrote:anyone point me to a better/bigger picture of the dark apostle? I looked through the thread and only found a really tiny one.
Page 27, under Red Corsair's post.
It's hidden by a spoiler alert.
YAY! My joke gets can of snaked on someone!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 14:29:57
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
Battle Barge Impossible Fortress
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I agree with you, Red Corsair. I will send you a picture of my Necrosphinx with magnetized arms for the Necrosphinx blades or 2 Punisher Gatling Cannons if you'd like. Cheap, and my Sphinx is already painted. Automatically Appended Next Post: Sooooo, go go gadget Fiend.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 14:35:58
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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For anyone too lazy to go to page 27 and look for the spoiler (that, and his spoiler tag doesn't work for some reason.) : Now why isn't this on the OP?
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 14:38:54
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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That's probably one of the best models I've ever seen, but I most likely won't buy it.
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If only ZUN!bar were here... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 14:41:29
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Is it just me, or does the Apostle look like he has chaos star shaped fridge magnets over his nipples?
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What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 14:44:32
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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CthuluIsSpy wrote:Is it just me, or does the Apostle look like he has chaos star shaped fridge magnets over his nipples?
Yeah, it's probably the grocery list... I do it the same way at home
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/21 14:45:27
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Why would Slaanesh want "Feel no pain"?
They should have "Feel lots of pain"
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