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 Apostle Pat wrote:
$50 for a full color hardcover codex... worth it.

Buy the digital version then. That's even more worth it.

Also, HQ marks making those cult marines troops is a good move, IMHO. Fits more with the warband mentality. My only disappointment with this release is price creep. But that doesn't surprise me in the least.

Good times for 40k! Not for my wallet.

Simmer down now! We've also been told that taking a mark of a specific Chaos god unlocks their cult marines as troops.

So, like with the last dex and every one before it, you take your HQ, give them the mark of your choice. Now, take the cult marines that worship the same Chaos god as your HQ as troops!

edit: beat'd

 Extreaminatus wrote:
Simmer down now! We've also been told that taking a mark of a specific Chaos god unlocks their cult marines as troops.

So, like with the last dex and every one before it, you take your HQ, give them the mark of your choice. Now, take the cult marines that worship the same Chaos god as your HQ as troops!

edit: beat'd

Well that makes sense and really wouldn't change anything. I retract my previous madness in that case.

 Apostle Pat wrote:
$50 for a full color hardcover codex... worth it.

No not really, I have a Marvel comics encyclopedia. It is hard back, 400 glossy full colour pages and cost me £30 bought new from WHSmiths and of better quality in terms of binding than any of GW's books,

Why would anyone buy the limited edition?

It befuddles me.

MetalOxide wrote:

 Apostle Pat wrote:
$50 for a full color hardcover codex... worth it.

No not really, I have a Marvel comics encyclopedia. It is hard back, 400 glossy full colour pages and cost me £30 bought new from WHSmiths.

Well... this book has a whatchamacallit "gate fold" reference page. Totally worth 50 bucks.

I was gonna be buying some FFG Deathwatch rulebooks. Those are larger, full cover, more pages, lotsa artwork and fluff, and still either 10 dollars more or 20 less for the supplements.

MetalOxide wrote:

 Apostle Pat wrote:
$50 for a full color hardcover codex... worth it.

No not really, I have a Marvel comics encyclopedia. It is hard back, 400 glossy full colour pages and cost me £30 bought new from WHSmiths and of better quality in terms of binding than any of GW's books,

Exactly. I have a feeling GW is experimenting with exactly how much they can demand before they actually suffer a significant loss in sales.

Onlinemph wrote:Why would anyone buy the limited edition?

It befuddles me.

If I was a earning $50,000+ yearly and single, I would for collecting reasons, but I have no other expensive hobbies that would get in the way of doing so. For most people the price is ludicrous, but LE products are not for most people.

boowtf22 wrote:
GOD DAMNIT! I was really happy to heard about the new chaos codex, but since stuffs are getting out i'm starting to get pissed off. Hope the codex won't be a dissapointment....

Dude, chill out, cult units going from troops to elite has been rumored for well over 3 months and all you need is a Lord with a mark to unlock them as troops.

I would totally buy the Limited Edition if I felt that it would make me more money on eBay or elsewhere, but at that price I seriously doubt it.

Onlinemph wrote:
Why would anyone buy the limited edition?

It befuddles me.

Because it looks cool as feth.

I'm getting it

Why? Because there's only a thousand of them and just because the idea of 'limited edition' has no value to you doesn't mean others don't want their shiny, leather bound, silver leafed parchment paper codex and want it NOW.

All I have to say is....I'm not paying that much. I'll buy from a discount source online, maybe even used from ebay at half the cost a year later before I pay what they are asking. Not that I'll buy anything for an army I don't play to include All Marines, Chaos or otherwise, but I can see the cost of my armies being this ,if not more do to the yearly price rise, when they are released.

I know the stuff for the mark but my dissapoitment is that i loved playing all sorts of cult troops together and now i won't be able, even if i'm playing deathguard, i would of love to have some berzerker or noise as troops thats why i'm mad

Yeah, the one shining light in the price creep is I have a 20% discount on GW stuff at my FLGS. Sad, though, when 20% off puts the prices back around where they really should be.

*edit*

I think the cult troops as elites (which they really should have been all along, and when I first got into CSM was surpised they weren't) was a nod to the fluff, since they seem to be poking holes in it regarding Dark Apostles. Cult troops as (troops) made me never want to take generic CSM. All of those models I used as Chosen (5 infiltrating melta/plasma/flamers? Yes please).

boowtf22 wrote:
I know the stuff for the mark but my dissapoitment is that i loved playing all sorts of cult troops together and now i won't be able, even if i'm playing deathguard, i would of love to have some berzerker or noise as troops thats why i'm mad

Chaos Lord/Sorceror Lord /w Mark of Nurgle = Plague Marines Troops, take others as elites.

 Exergy wrote:
the back of the warpsmith is AWESOME

Well at least he can be sure that he is compatible with both domestic and foreign outlets...

Seriously why does he need a MILLION different hoses attached to nothing?! It really must be the outlet thing

They attach cables like women buy their shoes?

At least they still have the iron warriors warsmith available...for now

 Cyrax wrote:
They attach cables like women buy their shoes?

Ha ha I seriously just saw a vacuum attachment somewhere in there AND a dragon head

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Exergy wrote:
the back of the warpsmith is AWESOME

Well at least he can be sure that he is compatible with both domestic and foreign outlets...

Seriously why does he need a MILLION different hoses attached to nothing?! It really must be the outlet thing

Maybe, just maybe, he works with a bunch of different ports that he needs to plug into during the course of his duties as the only one fixing anything mechanical in the entirety of the Chaos army?

I mean, that's a lot of stuff for just one dude to do in an entire army. Man needs to make sure he can plug up.

Or maybe they wanted it to look like a cape of cables. You know, for looks.

*edit* Ninja'd by about 8 seconds.

Cyvash wrote:
At least they still have the iron warriors warsmith available...for now

Yea I need him and fast because he toasts the new guy IMO.


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Ok I may buy him now....

Purely for the jokes....
.Oh wait I forgot they charged us a dollar for every additional hose after the first 10!

 Amaya wrote:

boowtf22 wrote:
I know the stuff for the mark but my dissapoitment is that i loved playing all sorts of cult troops together and now i won't be able, even if i'm playing deathguard, i would of love to have some berzerker or noise as troops thats why i'm mad

Chaos Lord/Sorceror Lord /w Mark of Nurgle = Plague Marines Troops, take others as elites.

+1 to Amaya here.

Or, instead of taking others as elites, take another cheap HQ, give him a MoK and take Berzerkers as troops too.

This isn't a terribly hard equation to figure out.

Orktavius wrote:
Why? Because there's only a thousand of them and just because the idea of 'limited edition' has no value to you doesn't mean others don't want their shiny, leather bound, silver leafed parchment paper codex and want it NOW.

I don't care if they're limited or not, the book looks awesome vOv

I like how they have some benefits for going undivided with the boons/gifts. All of the 4 factions are cool, but I think it is neat, fluffwise when a force is devoted to the whole concept of Chaos, whatever that is.

I think the Maulerfiend is the weakest of them all. I was really hoping it would have a much beefier close combat aspect. I think the Helbrute feet and/or legs might do well on a conversion for that. Thanks to His Master's Voice for his suggestions on the Helldrake as well. Was considering just doing a kitbash of it with a Hell Talon/Blade.

Got the limited edition dark vengeance because I wanted the chaplain if I was starting a dark angels army, no interest in getting this though.

I'm still bummed about the fluff changes to the Word Bearers. Hopefully the codex proves otherwise.

 Amaya wrote:

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
Cult troops are listed under 'elites' on GW's site, hence...

Cult Troops as elites would ruin this codex.

I really hope it's a goof, but I doubt it.

Unless Orks gets some love, I'm done with GW.

With a childish attitude like that I'd be inclined to think they'd say good riddance.

Seriously, how long have you been playing CSM? Cult units always needed a HQ to make them Troops before the current Codex simplification. We're just getting with the old times once again without some of the silliness than was then possible.

 Godless-Mimicry wrote:

 Amaya wrote:

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:
Cult troops are listed under 'elites' on GW's site, hence...

Cult Troops as elites would ruin this codex.

I really hope it's a goof, but I doubt it.

Unless Orks gets some love, I'm done with GW.

With a childish attitude like that I'd be inclined to think they'd say good riddance.

Seriously, how long have you been playing CSM? Cult units always needed a HQ to make them Troops before the current Codex simplification. We're just getting with the old times once again without some of the silliness than was then possible.

He changed his tune once he was informed that HQ marks unlock the cult marines as troops.

 Amaya wrote:

 Extreaminatus wrote:
Simmer down now! We've also been told that taking a mark of a specific Chaos god unlocks their cult marines as troops.

So, like with the last dex and every one before it, you take your HQ, give them the mark of your choice. Now, take the cult marines that worship the same Chaos god as your HQ as troops!

edit: beat'd

Well that makes sense and really wouldn't change anything. I retract my previous madness in that case.