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 BlapBlapBlap wrote:
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Well, that was disappointing.

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I really dont understand why people whine about the models. Overall they are great IMO. The Mutilators look like crap but thats it. Everything else is either good (Forgefiends, HellDrake) or awesome (Raptors, Sorceror, Dark Apostle, ect ect ect). Sure the price of the book is possibly step compared to some books. But seeing how some physics books costs $300 its still not extremely expensive.

tedurur wrote:
I really dont understand why people whine about the models. Overall they are great IMO. The Mutilators look like crap but thats it. Everything else is either good (Forgefiends, HellDrake) or awesome (Raptors, Sorceror, Dark Apostle, ect ect ect). Sure the price of the book is possibly step compared to some books. But seeing how some physics books costs $300 its still not extremely expensive.

People have opinions that differ from your own? Or is that an absurd idea?

tedurur wrote:
I really dont understand why people whine about the models. Overall they are great IMO. The Mutilators look like crap but thats it. Everything else is either good (Forgefiends, HellDrake) or awesome (Raptors, Sorceror, Dark Apostle, ect ect ect). Sure the price of the book is possibly step compared to some books. But seeing how some physics books costs $300 its still not extremely expensive.

With all due respect, but a physics book is on a whole different level than a mere codex for a tabletop game. I can't recall any GW employee having some sort of title

 blood reaper wrote:

tedurur wrote:
I really dont understand why people whine about the models. Overall they are great IMO. The Mutilators look like crap but thats it. Everything else is either good (Forgefiends, HellDrake) or awesome (Raptors, Sorceror, Dark Apostle, ect ect ect). Sure the price of the book is possibly step compared to some books. But seeing how some physics books costs $300 its still not extremely expensive.

People have opinions that differ from your own? Or is that an absurd idea?

Not sure if serious? Seeing how you have a "Union Jack" as your country flag I will asssume that your native tounge is English....For that reason I would assume that you understand that when Im writing "I really dont understand why people whine about the models." Im not really bafled by "Why they are whining", but Im bafled over the fact that so many people find the models so bad that they complain about them.

tedurur wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:

tedurur wrote:
I really dont understand why people whine about the models. Overall they are great IMO. The Mutilators look like crap but thats it. Everything else is either good (Forgefiends, HellDrake) or awesome (Raptors, Sorceror, Dark Apostle, ect ect ect). Sure the price of the book is possibly step compared to some books. But seeing how some physics books costs $300 its still not extremely expensive.

People have opinions that differ from your own? Or is that an absurd idea?

Not sure if serious? Seeing how you have a "Union Jack" as your country flag I will asssume that your native tounge is English....For that reason I would assume that you understand that when Im writing "I really dont understand why people whine about the models." Im not really bafled by "Why they are whining", but Im bafled over the fact that so many people find the models so bad that they complain about them.

People have opinions and this forum is effectively a discussion board, meaning that people can express their opinions and fuss say what they wish of a product, fuss they are able to criticise if they wish to do so.

 blood reaper wrote:

tedurur wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:

tedurur wrote:
I really dont understand why people whine about the models. Overall they are great IMO. The Mutilators look like crap but thats it. Everything else is either good (Forgefiends, HellDrake) or awesome (Raptors, Sorceror, Dark Apostle, ect ect ect). Sure the price of the book is possibly step compared to some books. But seeing how some physics books costs $300 its still not extremely expensive.

People have opinions that differ from your own? Or is that an absurd idea?

Not sure if serious? Seeing how you have a "Union Jack" as your country flag I will asssume that your native tounge is English....For that reason I would assume that you understand that when Im writing "I really dont understand why people whine about the models." Im not really bafled by "Why they are whining", but Im bafled over the fact that so many people find the models so bad that they complain about them.

People have opinions and this forum is effectively a discussion board, meaning that people can express their opinions and fuss say what they wish of a product, fuss they are able to criticise if they wish to do so.

Your point being?

Screw it, i thought i double posted. It was my computer being Laggy. I edited one and deleted my message...


Feth you internetz!

Great mechanical Sean Connery (dragon is as stupid as I feared, can I just get the FW chaos fighter jet please?!), Zoids? (daemon engine things), Sloth/Chunk looking "maulers", and Warp Talons that have gak that just looks like spare bitz thown together. All the other models I like though, not blown away like I was by the DE release but they do look good besides the ones I mentioned above.

EEEP!!! Didn't realsie how much Forge World prices have gone up (it's beena while).

I got my Hellblade a few years ago and it was £30. Now they're £52!?!?!?!?!

bang goes my though of fielding a squadron of them.

When I got mine four years ago they where £45 so not gone up that much as vat has also gone up in that time

tedurur wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:

tedurur wrote:

 blood reaper wrote:

tedurur wrote:
I really dont understand why people whine about the models. Overall they are great IMO. The Mutilators look like crap but thats it. Everything else is either good (Forgefiends, HellDrake) or awesome (Raptors, Sorceror, Dark Apostle, ect ect ect). Sure the price of the book is possibly step compared to some books. But seeing how some physics books costs $300 its still not extremely expensive.

People have opinions that differ from your own? Or is that an absurd idea?

Not sure if serious? Seeing how you have a "Union Jack" as your country flag I will asssume that your native tounge is English....For that reason I would assume that you understand that when Im writing "I really dont understand why people whine about the models." Im not really bafled by "Why they are whining", but Im bafled over the fact that so many people find the models so bad that they complain about them.

People have opinions and this forum is effectively a discussion board, meaning that people can express their opinions and fuss say what they wish of a product, fuss they are able to criticise if they wish to do so.

Your point being?

People can have their own opinions and express them how they please, whether it's through a rant or whining, so get over it.

Im not very happy that the damn codex is $50. Thats......pretty expensive no matter how you slice it, specially considering many game systems out there, have free rules for your armies. But the minis look pretty good to me

Limited edition codex is already listed as sold out on the GW UK website...that didn't take long!

What did the limited edition actually give you that the normal one didn't?

 Praxiss wrote:
What did the limited edition actually give you that the normal one didn't?

Blood splatters, black and white cover and a letter.

Truly worth 50 pounds.

 Praxiss wrote:
What did the limited edition actually give you that the normal one didn't?

A black and white dust cover and a piece of ribbon to keep your page.

Bragging rights? Other than that, not a lot that I can see. I'm going to wait for the digital one anyway I think.

Not sure about the pricing of the codex, it looks like a high quality product but £30 is a bit much, oh well atleast it's available from the online discounters for considerably less.

The models are definitely a mixed back IMO, the fiends and characters I like a lot, the flying dragon thing is fairly woeful in the pictures but like some of the other flyer kits it might look better in real life. I'm not sure if I like the new Raptors but it's nice to see CSM get some plastic jump pack troops. Then there's the absolute nadir for me, the Mutilators, even uglier version of a model (and indeed concept) I detest.

I'll definitely be picking up the codex and pychic power cards. Although I do find myself eyeing up a small Iron Warriors army so I might end upbuying more that I intend.

Your point being?

People are so different. I for example can't really understand these price complaints like people are shocked or something, just like I find it incredibly funny when a GW employee or another hobbyists asks me what army I'm "collecting".

I don't collect any armies. When I want an army I go and buy it. Sometimes I might add units to it, but I'm not collecting any models in the sense that GW means it, which I understand to mean a kid slowly building up his force with his weekly allowance. Similarly, comments like the following make me wonder:

I got my Hellblade a few years ago and it was £30. Now they're £52!?!?!?!?!

bang goes my though of fielding a squadron of them.

So basically the person was willing to buy three or more of the models for approximately 100£ but now that the squadron costs 150£ he's only going to buy one or none at all. Sure that's a particularly steep prince increase if true, but I suspect this really only touches people who 'collect' models. People who buy models without any particular reason every month with whatever little pocket money they have. I buy a ~5000 point army every two or three years or so and order it from some discount retailer and although it's more expensive each time so is everything else out there in the world so I really can't see the problem.

As far as the model quality is concerned there's the usual knee-jerkers going on about claiming everything is garbage and they're entitled to their vocal opinion. I'm sure that once again most people are very satisfied with GW's product. The overall model quality is always climbing higher (as opposed to rules quality which never improves), and there might still be some things we don't know about future releases and to-be updated units.

I can tell so many people here don't play Fantasy; the Codex price is the normal price for GW hardbacks.

 blood reaper wrote:

 Praxiss wrote:
What did the limited edition actually give you that the normal one didn't?

Blood splatters, black and white cover and a letter.

Truly worth 50 pounds.

A Letter?


Dear Hobbyist,

LOLZ Sucker!!

Hugs and Kisses,
GW.





The Aspiring Champion blurb says it is "Games Workshops first ever plastic single model"........Did the Sm Captain and Chaos Terminator Lord kits get ret-conned or something?

tedurur wrote:
I really dont understand why people whine about the models. Overall they are great IMO. The Mutilators look like crap but thats it. Everything else is either good (Forgefiends, HellDrake) or awesome (Raptors, Sorceror, Dark Apostle, ect ect ect).

How about this then? The Mutilators look like crap, and so does everything else.

fishy bob wrote:

tedurur wrote:
I really dont understand why people whine about the models. Overall they are great IMO. The Mutilators look like crap but thats it. Everything else is either good (Forgefiends, HellDrake) or awesome (Raptors, Sorceror, Dark Apostle, ect ect ect).

How about this then? The Mutilators look like crap, and so does everything else.

Amen. The more I see of them the less I like them. Raptors being the only exception and even there I have some issues. For instance, molded lightning bolts on the greaves? REALLY? Because someone might want to make them not Night Lords and you can't have that?

fishy bob....really? Its completely objective. Dumping your opinions on other is no fun.

I don't mind the models, but a $40 price difference in price form UK codex is so stupid. I think I will be ordering mine from overseas for sure. Screw GW, making a loss might be the only way to get them to notice that people are stupid and will take the cheaper option.

£30 for a codex does not bother me, I only need it once and it lasts 5+ years (or 10 if your a oldcron player), If its good quality (looks like it is) then im ok with it... still not gonna get it though.... DA are around the corner... yeah

I can't afford to spend 30 quid on a fething codex.......
wtf GW.....

I'm suprised at the suprise of the cost of the Codex. Fantasy has been doing hard cover for a while now. It's a 10% mark up on what they've been charging on the Fantasy books, yeah, but much smaller then the 20% on other models that have been released.

fishy bob wrote:

tedurur wrote:
I really dont understand why people whine about the models. Overall they are great IMO. The Mutilators look like crap but thats it. Everything else is either good (Forgefiends, HellDrake) or awesome (Raptors, Sorceror, Dark Apostle, ect ect ect).

How about this then? The Mutilators look like crap, and so does everything else.

How about what then? Have I ever said that people arent allowed to have opinions that differ from mine? No I havent, I meerly said that I dont understand WHY they dont like them. Your "eloquent" comment does nothing to enlighten me either.

Is this stuff for sale today? Or on pre-order?