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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 19:59:56
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Camouflaged Zero
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Vladsimpaler wrote:Also, Typhus does turn Cultists into plague zombies. They become Fearless, SnP, have FnP, can't take options, and are counted as being armed with a single CCW, and can't shoot. Considering that you can have up to 35 cultists in a squad, that's stupidly good. 35 cultists is 150 points, but hey, they have FNP!
I can't make out the last few lines on the blurry pic; are the plague zombies still scoring units?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:00:00
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Dakka Veteran
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Minx wrote:
But what about fnp? The berserkers specials are similar to their gods mark/icon...
Believe the word is they lost FNP but can get it back with the purchose of the icon. they have fear instead. Which would probably be the same logic used for Thousand Sons. No blaze, but can buy the Icon to get it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:02:02
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Foxy Wildborne
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:02:12
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Nigel Stillman
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Minx wrote: Vladsimpaler wrote:Also, Typhus does turn Cultists into plague zombies. They become Fearless, SnP, have FnP, can't take options, and are counted as being armed with a single CCW, and can't shoot. Considering that you can have up to 35 cultists in a squad, that's stupidly good. 35 cultists is 150 points, but hey, they have FNP!
I can't make out the last few lines on the blurry pic; are the plague zombies still scoring units?
Reading over the entry, nothing says that they're not scoring units, therefore yes they are. motherofgod.jpeg
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:03:02
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Barpharanges
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I can't get it without signing up.
Which requires a credit card, which I lack.
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The biggest indicator someone is a loser is them complaining about 3d printers or piracy. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:03:14
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Camouflaged Zero
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Vladsimpaler wrote:Minx wrote:I can't make out the last few lines on the blurry pic; are the plague zombies still scoring units?
Reading over the entry, nothing says that they're not scoring units, therefore yes they are. motherofgod.jpeg
Thanks =)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:04:47
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Foxy Wildborne
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Vladsimpaler wrote:Minx wrote: Vladsimpaler wrote:Also, Typhus does turn Cultists into plague zombies. They become Fearless, SnP, have FnP, can't take options, and are counted as being armed with a single CCW, and can't shoot. Considering that you can have up to 35 cultists in a squad, that's stupidly good. 35 cultists is 150 points, but hey, they have FNP!
I can't make out the last few lines on the blurry pic; are the plague zombies still scoring units?
Reading over the entry, nothing says that they're not scoring units, therefore yes they are. motherofgod.jpeg
Okay, we get a 50-pt home objective babysitter. Not like they can do anything else.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:07:41
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Ruthless Interrogator
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Nvs wrote:Minx wrote:
But what about fnp? The berserkers specials are similar to their gods mark/icon...
Believe the word is they lost FNP but can get it back with the purchose of the icon. they have fear instead. Which would probably be the same logic used for Thousand Sons. No blaze, but can buy the Icon to get it?
No, that is not the word. Mark of Nurgle gives +1 T, but not FNP. This means Nurgle marked CSMs have T5, but plague marines have T5 and FNP, just as before.
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You can never beat your first time. The second generation is shinier, stronger, faster and superior in every regard save one, and it's an unfair criticism to level, but it simply can't be as original. - Andy Chambers, on the evolution of Games Workshop games |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:07:51
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Nigel Stillman
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Minx wrote: Vladsimpaler wrote:Minx wrote:I can't make out the last few lines on the blurry pic; are the plague zombies still scoring units? Reading over the entry, nothing says that they're not scoring units, therefore yes they are. motherofgod.jpeg Thanks =) Yep! And once again Abaddon is a monster. The Talon of Horus is a Str x2 AP3 Melee Specialist Weapon, with Shred so you get to reroll failed to-wound rolls. Yuck. Drach'nyen is a Str+1 AP2 Daemon Specialist Weapon. At WS7 I6 with 4 attacks (+1 from two specialist weapons), he'll cut through everything and everyone. lord_blackfang wrote: Vladsimpaler wrote:Minx wrote: Vladsimpaler wrote:Also, Typhus does turn Cultists into plague zombies. They become Fearless, SnP, have FnP, can't take options, and are counted as being armed with a single CCW, and can't shoot. Considering that you can have up to 35 cultists in a squad, that's stupidly good. 35 cultists is 150 points, but hey, they have FNP! I can't make out the last few lines on the blurry pic; are the plague zombies still scoring units? Reading over the entry, nothing says that they're not scoring units, therefore yes they are. motherofgod.jpeg Okay, we get a 50-pt home objective babysitter. Not like they can do anything else. Keep them in cover with the objective and they'll be annoyingly hard to dislodge for only 50 points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:11:31
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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aka_mythos wrote:So you're complaint is that a unit that's suppose to specialize at fighting hordes of light infantry isn't as good at fighting heavier MEQ infantry?-Geeze. In the context of the setting there should be more light infantry hordes than MEQs.
It's just that highly situational upgrades that you need to model on every model are annoying.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:15:33
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Calm Celestian
Windsor Ontario Canada
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Any information on the chaos lord? Also do daemon weapons have special effects depending on the mark?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:23:55
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
Battle Barge Impossible Fortress
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It's been fun but I'm going to stay away from the rumors and such until I get the book in my hands.
I see enough info as far as Tsons go to make me a super-happy camper.
Mastery Level 3 demon prince on foot (my magnus the red model) who can take artifacts and such?
YES PLEASE.
Later, fellas. I'll be in the batrep section ; )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:27:19
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Nigel Stillman
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Okay, here's my first hilarious idea for this codex:
Chaos Space Marines-75 (100) x6
Plasma Gun-15
Champion gets a single roll on the boon table-10
So that's 6 chances at getting a Daemon Prince! yeeeee
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:36:28
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Rotting Sorcerer of Nurgle
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No 1
Glad marks are now per model cause it makes my termies, assualt marines & bikers 5 man squad so much worth it now! Yey! Happy bunny here.
No 2
Complete guesses here but I would not be supprised to see the next wave anounced on release day of the Codex and containing what is basically plastic box set versions from the DV box - ie new chosen, cultists & the Hellbrute. I aslo wouldn't be suprised to see a finecast vehicle upgrade set to reflect deamon possession.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:40:18
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances
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Vladsimpaler wrote:Okay, here's my first hilarious idea for this codex:
Chaos Space Marines-75 (100) x6
Plasma Gun-15
Champion gets a single roll on the boon table-10
So that's 6 chances at getting a Daemon Prince! yeeeee
6 chances for a 1:18 chance for a daemon prince when measured against the fact you get a barebones daemon prince and that you have as much chance being spawned... There is every reason to embrace the boon table but daemon prince shouldn't be the sole or even primary purpose.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:44:24
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Vladsimpaler wrote:Okay, here's my first hilarious idea for this codex:
Chaos Space Marines-75 (100) x6
Plasma Gun-15
Champion gets a single roll on the boon table-10
So that's 6 chances at getting a Daemon Prince! yeeeee
I'm just going to take 12 units of 35 plague zombies and typhus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:46:21
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Calm Celestian
Windsor Ontario Canada
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I'm going to be taking noise marines. Str 8 ap 3 blast, no cover and causing pinning? Yes please! Whats that marines, you get no armour save or cover saves? What's that skirmishers, no jinx save for you?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:47:16
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Nigel Stillman
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Kevlar wrote: Vladsimpaler wrote:Okay, here's my first hilarious idea for this codex:
Chaos Space Marines-75 (100) x6
Plasma Gun-15
Champion gets a single roll on the boon table-10
So that's 6 chances at getting a Daemon Prince! yeeeee
I'm just going to take 12 units of 35 plague zombies and typhus.
The sad (aka awesome) part is that as long as Typhus is 200 points or less this is a legal army for 2k. Also you'd have 421 models to paint!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 20:55:06
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Ultramarine Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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bubber wrote:No 2
Complete guesses here but I would not be supprised to see the next wave anounced on release day of the Codex and containing what is basically plastic box set versions from the DV box - ie new chosen, cultists & the Hellbrute. I aslo wouldn't be suprised to see a finecast vehicle upgrade set to reflect deamon possession.
I doubt it. Everything for October is in WD, Nov at earliest.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 21:21:12
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
Odessa, TX, USA
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Has anyone seen the summary for the weapons/units yet?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 21:21:48
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Calm Celestian
Windsor Ontario Canada
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 21:23:43
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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No new special characters in that pic. That's a bit disappointing.
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The Tick: Everybody was a baby once, Arthur. Oh, sure, maybe not today, or even yesterday. But once. Babies, chum: tiny, dimpled, fleshy mirrors of our us-ness, that we parents hurl into the future, like leathery footballs of hope. And you've got to get a good spiral on that baby, or evil will make an interception. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 21:25:02
Subject: Re:CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Vladsimpaler wrote:
The sad (aka awesome) part is that as long as Typhus is 200 points or less this is a legal army for 2k. Also you'd have 421 models to paint!
Bah, my fantasy army is skaven, I can paint 421 models on a three day weekend. Might need another can of dip...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 21:27:31
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Indiana
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any one able to clean up the images? want to see what destroyer hive. from what i could tell typhus still has fnp, that is separate from the mark, so i am guessing they still have it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 21:32:26
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Wonder what has a baleflamer. Something gets a hellhound flamer that is aap3
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Chaos isn’t a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail, and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb, but refuse. They cling to the realm, or love, or the gods…illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is, but they’ll never know this. Not until it’s too late.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 21:33:25
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
Odessa, TX, USA
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I think I regret preordering the Codex. At this rate, everything will be leaked, especially giving the exceptional 2 week waiting period...darn.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 21:34:48
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Also think I found some unfortunate fine print on the helldrake. If the vector strike counts as already firing a weapon in the following shooting phase I guess that means it can't flat out and leave combat airspace in the shooting phase after a vector strike.
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Chaos isn’t a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail, and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb, but refuse. They cling to the realm, or love, or the gods…illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is, but they’ll never know this. Not until it’s too late.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 21:40:34
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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Can anyone read what the leaked picture of typhus' page says?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 21:44:15
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Dakka Veteran
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What are your thoughts about Daemon Princes not having Eternal Warrior any more?
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Andy Chambers wrote:
To me the Chaos Space Marines needed to be characterised as a threat reaching back to the Imperium's past, a threat which had refused to lie down and become part of history. This is in part why the gods of Chaos are less pivotal in Codex Chaos; we felt that the motivations of Chaos Space Marines should remain their own, no matter how debased and vile. Though the corrupted Space Marines of the Traitor Legions make excellent champions for the gods of Chaos, they are not pawns and have their own agendas of vengeance, empire-building vindication or arcane study which gives them purpose. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/09/23 21:51:13
Subject: CSM Roundup (added pics of CSM rules etc)
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Calm Celestian
Windsor Ontario Canada
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Chaospling wrote:What are your thoughts about Daemon Princes not having Eternal Warrior any more?
Don't they have a the daemon rule?
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