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They could assault if the infiltrating unit was from the person going second. They say first turn, not game turn(which makes sense, otherwise player one could decide to stand right next to an infiltrating assault unit without worry.)

7man nurgle unit with two special weapons is looking to be around 200 points. thinking 2 units of those, with two 20 man cultist units at 90 points each, Thats around 600. Throw in typhus for estimated 240. That is a pretty solid basis(IMO) for an army. 4 durable troops, and a durable warlord. I would get more cultists but I want to try and make the remaining 10-15 per unit from a different kit. Fill in the rest with maybe another 90 point cultist unit(at larger point size games) and the rest is pure offensive power.

 Godless-Mimicry wrote:

The other was because I said something is gay awhile, which is actually against their rules,

Lol, this is what got me banned from the PP forum

And the comment I made really wasn't malicious at all, but one of their (bigger name) mods was personally insulted I guess.

 Leth wrote:
They could assault if the infiltrating unit was from the person going second. They say first turn, not game turn(which makes sense, otherwise player one could decide to stand right next to an infiltrating assault unit without worry.)

7man nurgle unit with two special weapons is looking to be around 200 points. thinking 2 units of those, with two 20 man cultist units at 90 points each, Thats around 600. Throw in typhus for estimated 240. That is a pretty solid basis(IMO) for an army. 4 durable troops, and a durable warlord. I would get more cultists but I want to try and make the remaining 10-15 per unit from a different kit. Fill in the rest with maybe another 90 point cultist unit(at larger point size games) and the rest is pure offensive power.

If I could afford the buy a separate army from the one I'm already working on, I'd definitely do an army just like that, except with 3 Helldrakes modeled as large Blight Drone type Bloatflies. Aguy did one before on this forum, can't remember his handle.

 Leth wrote:
They could assault if the infiltrating unit was from the person going second. They say first turn, not game turn(which makes sense, otherwise player one could decide to stand right next to an infiltrating assault unit without worry.)

7man nurgle unit with two special weapons is looking to be around 200 points. thinking 2 units of those, with two 20 man cultist units at 90 points each, Thats around 600. Throw in typhus for estimated 240. That is a pretty solid basis(IMO) for an army. 4 durable troops, and a durable warlord. I would get more cultists but I want to try and make the remaining 10-15 per unit from a different kit. Fill in the rest with maybe another 90 point cultist unit(at larger point size games) and the rest is pure offensive power.

That does sound like a solid core for an army, all of your guys are either stupidly hard to kill (plague marines) or annoyingly hard to kill (cultists).

I play Khorne but I am definitely considering a unit of 7 Plague Marines as an "allied" force, I've always wanted to try them out but never did in all the time I've played 40k!

Honestly I can't wait to get my hands on the new dex! I play all of Chaos, but my favorites are Khorn and Nurgle. I typically run mono-god lists, but I might squeeze them together and make up some fluff for like a Siege of Vracks situtation But I know for a fact I will be running Typhus, Plague marines, and cultists! Might make Eppy my ally in one list just to make him bring the pain! Probably going to test out 3-4 lists total. Nurgle theme with Typhus, PM and cultists, Cultists and IG, Nurgle theme with Biker Lord, Bikers, PM, Havocs and Eppy, and Kharn and zerkers I will be one happy Chaos lovin fool!

I opens the gloriest of glories box today and realized that I has 2000 points of highly converted “undivided” that was built with chaos codex in mind, but the theme is a renegade inquisitor…
(wait till I post this stuff man I was On One doing those models)
I looked it over like… Wonder how much it would take to convert this to Nurgle…
It’s a no go… too many ][ icons and eagle wings… ugh… I think I will break them out over the next few weeks and prep them for paint.
I’m going to have to start my Plague marines from scratch. But that’s Ok because I have more bits than I realized… tons of Gill mask heads and Shaved down Chaos heads, I’m sitting on a small goldmine .

I have 2 questions vehicle get marks? If so what are they?
And
is there any Special Ammo for Bolters?

This may have been answered, but there are a ton of I've and heard it both ways and saw the first post here. Are obliterators going to have plasma cannons or did they remove it?

**EDIT**

Found the answer, they can still use PC, good to know!

is there any word on being able to make the terminators troop choices?

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

 Leth wrote:
They could assault if the infiltrating unit was from the person going second. They say first turn, not game turn(which makes sense, otherwise player one could decide to stand right next to an infiltrating assault unit without worry.)

7man nurgle unit with two special weapons is looking to be around 200 points. thinking 2 units of those, with two 20 man cultist units at 90 points each, Thats around 600. Throw in typhus for estimated 240. That is a pretty solid basis(IMO) for an army. 4 durable troops, and a durable warlord. I would get more cultists but I want to try and make the remaining 10-15 per unit from a different kit. Fill in the rest with maybe another 90 point cultist unit(at larger point size games) and the rest is pure offensive power.

That does sound like a solid core for an army, all of your guys are either stupidly hard to kill (plague marines) or annoyingly hard to kill (cultists).

I play Khorne but I am definitely considering a unit of 7 Plague Marines as an "allied" force, I've always wanted to try them out but never did in all the time I've played 40k!

Model them as arco gladiators of khorne and just use the PM stat line.

 TheContortionist wrote:
is there any word on being able to make the terminators troop choices?

No, right now Abaddon makes Chosen troops, not terminators. Guess there will be no blackwing going around with this dex, which kinda makes me happy.

I am having trouble finding the stats for the chosen. can someone link a pic? thank you.

 TheContortionist wrote:
I am having trouble finding the stats for the chosen. can someone link a pic? thank you.

I have the scan, would rather avoid slapping pages up in the thread that have already been posted (pretty sure that may have been what shut down the FW HH one)

They're marine statline with 2 attacks and 9 leadership, in otherwords, vanilla veterans.

 Leth wrote:
They could assault if the infiltrating unit was from the person going second. They say first turn, not game turn(which makes sense, otherwise player one could decide to stand right next to an infiltrating assault unit without worry.)

7man nurgle unit with two special weapons is looking to be around 200 points. thinking 2 units of those, with two 20 man cultist units at 90 points each, Thats around 600. Throw in typhus for estimated 240. That is a pretty solid basis(IMO) for an army. 4 durable troops, and a durable warlord. I would get more cultists but I want to try and make the remaining 10-15 per unit from a different kit. Fill in the rest with maybe another 90 point cultist unit(at larger point size games) and the rest is pure offensive power.

I've been running two squads of 7 in rhinos and 2 squads of Plaguebearers led by Nurgle Heralds as allies at 1250 points, and they are tough to dislodge. Adding in cheap FNP cultists would just add to the uber tough troops, and I think with a combo of all three of these units could make for a crazy good horde force that is also really true to the background.

I guess I may have to get over my general aversion to Typhus, but for plague zombies I may have to make an exception. Although I'm more excited about making a counts as Fabius Bile as some sort of corrupted Apothecary-Lord, but the great thing about Phil Kelly books, and what I knew before seeing any of these leaks, is that there would be plenty of options to build fun, themed forces. Even without getting any of the new kits, I have plenty of DV and FW stuff to keep me busy for quite awhile.

Telsiph wrote:
This may have been answered, but there are a ton of I've and heard it both ways and saw the first post here. Are obliterators going to have plasma cannons or did they remove it?

Yes, they are in. The rumor saying there were not was an oversight and quickly cleared up by the original rumor poster.

 5deadly wrote:
I opens the gloriest of glories box today and realized that I has 2000 points of highly converted “undivided” that was built with chaos codex in mind, but the theme is a renegade inquisitor…
(wait till I post this stuff man I was On One doing those models)
I looked it over like… Wonder how much it would take to convert this to Nurgle…
It’s a no go… too many ][ icons and eagle wings… ugh… I think I will break them out over the next few weeks and prep them for paint.
I’m going to have to start my Plague marines from scratch. But that’s Ok because I have more bits than I realized… tons of Gill mask heads and Shaved down Chaos heads, I’m sitting on a small goldmine .

I have 2 questions vehicle get marks? If so what are they?
And
is there any Special Ammo for Bolters?

Please post up your stuff in the Painting sections! Your plague marine you posted in this thread was a big inspiration for my latest DG stuff when I was browsing Cool Mini and getting a new DG army together again. I love the full Mk 3 armor and huge horns coming out of the armor.

From what I've gathered vehicles to not get marks, but have new upgrades.

Only special ammo mentioned was for Thousand Sons with AP3 bolters.

 Red Corsair wrote:

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

 Leth wrote:
They could assault if the infiltrating unit was from the person going second. They say first turn, not game turn(which makes sense, otherwise player one could decide to stand right next to an infiltrating assault unit without worry.)

7man nurgle unit with two special weapons is looking to be around 200 points. thinking 2 units of those, with two 20 man cultist units at 90 points each, Thats around 600. Throw in typhus for estimated 240. That is a pretty solid basis(IMO) for an army. 4 durable troops, and a durable warlord. I would get more cultists but I want to try and make the remaining 10-15 per unit from a different kit. Fill in the rest with maybe another 90 point cultist unit(at larger point size games) and the rest is pure offensive power.

That does sound like a solid core for an army, all of your guys are either stupidly hard to kill (plague marines) or annoyingly hard to kill (cultists).

I play Khorne but I am definitely considering a unit of 7 Plague Marines as an "allied" force, I've always wanted to try them out but never did in all the time I've played 40k!

Model them as arco gladiators of khorne and just use the PM stat line.

You are a very smart man! I like this idea. I'm gonna start drawing out how I'm gonna make these bad boys.

Also we made it to Page 100! Victory Screech!

 Samus_aran115 wrote:
They're making a biker upgrade sprue? Why? Are terminators totally being pushed under the rug?

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Are you referring to this?
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440160a&prodId=prod1710134a

If so, that's a Finecast conversion of metal bits that are old as dirt. It's amazing that for the price of two old ugly bikes you can get a squad of the gorgeous new Raptors.

Do you think it would be worth getting the Night Lords conversion pack, or should I just convert it myself?

It looks rather nice.

 Onlinemph wrote:
Do you think it would be worth getting the Night Lords conversion pack, or should I just convert it myself?

It looks rather nice.

They're once again fairly old sculpts. The batwing helmets look goofy to me, but the shoulderpads are pretty cool. I can vouch for the Iron Warriors pack; I got a bunch of them for my Iron Warriors in metal and they look great. The shoulderpads are on the small side though, so keep that in mind if you take the plunge.

 Onlinemph wrote:
Do you think it would be worth getting the Night Lords conversion pack, or should I just convert it myself?

It looks rather nice.

Instead of that, buy some of these instead. I just found this site and am planning on getting around $50 worth of conversion parts for my world eaters.
Some sweet Night Lords shoulder pads:
http://puppetswar.com/product.php?id_product=146

They also have Terminator sized ones too!

Yea, I like typhus, but I decided to make a Nurgle lord based off one of the forgeworld terminator parts, this combined with the terminator chaos lord, and one of the bane thrall axes turned out quite well for my counts as typhus.

Funnily enough for me the only thing that is making me consider breaking my nurgle only mold is a unit of Noise Marines(that people seem to be hating) That ignore cover will be a godsend against a few armies I have seen built around things like the aegis defense line. I have seen just how powerful ignoring cover is and having an entire unit of it will just be insane, especially with 3 shots each at 24. Since they can get FNP with the icon I need to figure out how I would model them all nurgly. Huummmm time to spend like a hour looking at all the models in the GW line for conversions ideas.(might even look at bits componies for ideas). Have extra FW death guard bodies that I was saving for the new codex, so it will be interesting to see what I can come up with.

Also looking at a unit of possessed with mark of nurgle will be pretty good counter assault unit/offensive unit. Oddly enough I like uncertainty in my units to some degree(like with the possessed all of it is good, it is just a matter of how good). It makes life much more difficult for my opponent.

 Vladsimpaler wrote:

 Onlinemph wrote:
Do you think it would be worth getting the Night Lords conversion pack, or should I just convert it myself?

It looks rather nice.

Instead of that, buy some of these instead. I just found this site and am planning on getting around $50 worth of conversion parts for my world eaters.
Some sweet Night Lords shoulder pads:
http://puppetswar.com/product.php?id_product=146

They also have Terminator sized ones too!

That looks quite nice. I didn't want to pay an extra 10 dollars for the heads which would go unused.

I will most likely get this after a bit more research.

anyone know when a tactica will come out?

 JohnnoM wrote:
anyone know when a tactica will come out?

Uhhhhh, maybe when the codex comes out and people have time to play it?

The codex is out though, isn't it?

oct 6th.

Nope. October 6.

I know, i just checked GW site. FFFFFUFUUUUUU!!!!!

 Leth wrote:
Yea, I like typhus, but I decided to make a Nurgle lord based off one of the forgeworld terminator parts, this combined with the terminator chaos lord, and one of the bane thrall axes turned out quite well for my counts as typhus.

Funnily enough for me the only thing that is making me consider breaking my nurgle only mold is a unit of Noise Marines(that people seem to be hating) That ignore cover will be a godsend against a few armies I have seen built around things like the aegis defense line. I have seen just how powerful ignoring cover is and having an entire unit of it will just be insane, especially with 3 shots each at 24. Since they can get FNP with the icon I need to figure out how I would model them all nurgly. Huummmm time to spend like a hour looking at all the models in the GW line for conversions ideas.(might even look at bits componies for ideas). Have extra FW death guard bodies that I was saving for the new codex, so it will be interesting to see what I can come up with.

Also looking at a unit of possessed with mark of nurgle will be pretty good counter assault unit/offensive unit. Oddly enough I like uncertainty in my units to some degree(like with the possessed all of it is good, it is just a matter of how good). It makes life much more difficult for my opponent.

Bolded part is what I need to comment on.

I have no idea why people are poo-pooing on the Noise Marines so much. They're going to be so good this edition, certainly not going to shy away from taking as many units as I can.

 carabine wrote:

 TheContortionist wrote:
is there any word on being able to make the terminators troop choices?

No, right now Abaddon makes Chosen troops, not terminators. Guess there will be no blackwing going around with this dex, which kinda makes me happy.

So I guess Chosen can’t buy terminator armor?

 Starfarer wrote:

Please post up your stuff in the Painting sections! Your plague marine you posted in this thread was a big inspiration for my latest DG stuff when I was browsing Cool Mini and getting a new DG army together again. I love the full Mk 3 armor and huge horns coming out of the armor.

I’m sorry to Disappoint but I those aren’t my models but the awesomeness of Raffaele “Picster” Picca I did post that they are his and a source of inspiration for me. I just don’t want people to get it twisted, I found his work on Massive Voodoo and contacted him through Deviantart, he dropped the info on me about the”how to” of it all for the Nurgle fans…
I’m not that good at painting but I have made Chops converting I will post my stuff ASAP…

I told myself I had basically quit playing 40k , as my international travel schedule doesnt allow time for consistent gaming. And personal interests have deviated greatly from the gaming scene.

But I am sorely tempted now to apply my fairly solid painting/modeling skills into a true scale emperors children warband. So much pink paint.....

 Brother SRM wrote:

 Samus_aran115 wrote:
They're making a biker upgrade sprue? Why? Are terminators totally being pushed under the rug?

\
Are you referring to this?
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat440160a&prodId=prod1710134a

If so, that's a Finecast conversion of metal bits that are old as dirt. It's amazing that for the price of two old ugly bikes you can get a squad of the gorgeous new Raptors.

Just noticed something.

They claim the packs they show are Finecast and you can clearly see where they're the metal ones that have been broken off existing models to stick randomly on plastics to display them. Win.

As far as these 'upgrade' sets go?

Ebay. Seriously. Ebay. Get the metals, strip them, enjoy.