US Ambassador to Libya murdered... Romney blames Obama...

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**whembly**

PhantomViper wrote:
whembly wrote:
d-usa wrote:
Next time I am rude to somebody at work, I will hold the President accountable for my actions...

If it goes that far... makes you wondering if your superior weren't doing their job...

Look, you should've seen me during the Iraq War when Bush was Prez... I was howling over some of the crap the States Dept were doing... And yes, I blamed Bush for that... Abu Gharib? States Dept bungled that up badly and Bush really didn't address it quick enough for me...

Please tell me that you haven't just compared a US run detention facility where they were torturing prisoners with a tweet in terms of accountability or "seriousness"?

Nope... not equating.

**PhantomViper**

whembly wrote:
PhantomViper wrote:
whembly wrote:
d-usa wrote:
Next time I am rude to somebody at work, I will hold the President accountable for my actions...

If it goes that far... makes you wondering if your superior weren't doing their job...

Look, you should've seen me during the Iraq War when Bush was Prez... I was howling over some of the crap the States Dept were doing... And yes, I blamed Bush for that... Abu Gharib? States Dept bungled that up badly and Bush really didn't address it quick enough for me...

Please tell me that you haven't just compared a US run detention facility where they were torturing prisoners with a tweet in terms of accountability or "seriousness"?

Nope... not equating.

Never mind me then. Everyone please continue with your discussion on whether the president of the United States should be held personally accountable for a tweet made by some unknown State Department employee while under duress. Its fascinating stuff!

**AustonT**

How exactly did you expect the State Department to deal with Abu Gharib? Which was a DoD facility. The Blackwater free fire zone maybe but AG...
Try again.

**whembly**

AustonT wrote:
How exactly did you expect the State Department to deal with Abu Gharib? Which was a DoD facility. The Blackwater free fire zone maybe but AG...
Try again.

Huh...

It was a diplomatic disaster. (I just remember that the optics was really bad and States Dept could've done "more"

The Blackwater free fire zone? What was that? <--- tried to wiki/google...

**AgeOfEgos**

Like Romney's ideology, dislike Romney's ideology---one thing that everyone can agree with (I think)--as a candidate, he's just not very good. The last two weeks have been devastatingly bad for Romney and his staff. He has to go all in for the debates I think--and if the GOP primary was anything to go by, a debate with Obama will likely prove more a minefield than a chance to get a bump. Guess we'll see.

**Harriticus**

I see Obama's new priority he gave to NASA is working out great....

**AustonT**

Harriticus wrote:
I see Obama's new priority he gave to NASA is working out great....

There can only be one JFK.

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whembly wrote:
AustonT wrote:
How exactly did you expect the State Department to deal with Abu Gharib? Which was a DoD facility. The Blackwater free fire zone maybe but AG...
Try again.

Huh...

It was a diplomatic disaster. (I just remember that the optics was really bad and States Dept could've done "more"

The Blackwater free fire zone? What was that? <--- tried to wiki/google...

September 16, 2007
The event just illuminated how free of a reign BW had in using deadly force against Iraqis when in the employ of State.

**Jihadin**

Talking about the BW incident where they engage a crowd. If I remember correctly some of the BW shooters were Iraqi's

**d-usa**

Good summary:

**Jihadin**

Yep. Now we look like idioits. It doesn't really matter if the Cairo embassy is not on the same sheet as the White House.

"

The Embassy of the United States in Cairo condemns the continuing efforts by misguided individuals to hurt the religious feelings of Muslims – as we condemn efforts to offend believers of all religions. Today, the 11th anniversary of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks on the United States, Americans are honoring our patriots and those who serve our nation as the fitting response to the enemies of democracy. Respect for religious beliefs is a cornerstone of American democracy. We firmly reject the actions by those who abuse the universal right of free speech to hurt the religious beliefs of others."

It happen on Obama watch so its going to be contribute to him. No if and's or buts

Romney just stabbed him in the back and probaly got away with it. Heck he's already considered a felon and a murderer by some on this board. So whats the big deal

**Mannahnin**

Romney made himself look stupid by jumping the gun and saying factually inaccurate things, and by using violence against Americans as an excuse to try to make a cheap political point on 9/11.

Nothing the Embassy said was conciliatory toward the perpetrators of violence.

**Melissia**

Apparently saying "sorry you're offended, but that doesn't excuse the violence" is the same as ":I'm sorry, please hit me some more" .

**Squigsquasher**

D-USA, you win 15 Internets.

**Jihadin**

Embassy made that statement to save some lives or prevent injuries to US personnel. I've done the same freaking thing to if I was in charge. Embassy made the statement to try to defuse what was about to go down. Neither Obama nor Romney nor Dakkadakka have the justificationton to second guess the embassy since neither of three were "Jimmy on the spot".

**Mannahnin**

Right. The embassy made a statement which was sympathetic to people who were offended over the video. That's a totally separate thing from being sympathetic to people who got violent over the video, which no one did at any point.

Hency Romney's statement being false both in what he claimed was said, and who he claimed said it.

**d-usa**

Mannahnin wrote:
Right. The embassy made a statement which was sympathetic to people who were offended over the video. That's a totally separate thing from being sympathetic to people who got violent over the video, which no one did at any point.

Hency Romney's statement being false both in what he claimed was said, and who he claimed said it.

And don't forget "when it was said". He insisted that the statement was a response to the attacks, when it was issued before the attacks.

**Jihadin**

Seems Romny gain a point and Obama lost a partial of a point in the national polls today.....

Romney a "Snookie" fan.....OMG....

**Melissia**

Which national polls are we talking about?

In the Economist Obama's picked up four point lead over Romney in the past few days, while in Rasmussen, Romney's never been worse off than Obama.

**Jihadin**

Do they show Obama 48.8 to Romney 45.3?

**Melissia**

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/09/america%E2%80%99s-presidential-race

**Jihadin**

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/index.html

I keep with Fox

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We're one big nation

**AustonT**

Jihadin wrote:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/index.html

I keep with Fox

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We're one big nation

I laughed because I assumed it was a joke...it was a joke right?

**Jihadin**

Aye...joke
Same as me saying I'm voting for Romney because he has a better smirk
Same as I'm voting for Romney becuase Obama creeps me out more.

You know. The very important issue...now I'm back on the ledge because Romney likes "Snooki" but now since I watched the video of Obama making the call to Harold and Kumar I'm leaning towards him. Decisions decisions decisions

**Mannahnin**

Kumar (Kal Penn) had a job in the White House for a while.

**Jihadin**

Think one of them in a TV seris. Think its Harold. "Go On" I think

**d-usa**

Looks like fivethirtyeight has had Obama sitting at ~51% all month, and Romney maybe dropping half a point.

**Jihadin**

Should never have come out he was a Snooki fan.....

**d-usa**

Jihadin wrote:
Should never have come out he was a Snooki fan.....

He could make her Ambassador in one of the dangerous areas...

**AustonT**

d-usa wrote:
Looks like fivethirtyeight has had Obama sitting at ~51% all month, and Romney maybe dropping half a point.

Honestly the popular vote doesn't really matter as anything but a media talking point. The spread in Ohio, Virginia, and Florida are what matters and Obama holds a considerable lead in those states.

**Jihadin**

We're doomed if he does......