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 Necros wrote:
I'm real stuck trying to kill the leviathan :( I had a pretty big ragequit last night. I get him down to almost dead and then a bajillion worm eat me. Even if I can take out all of the worms, something really cheapshotty happens and I gotta start over.

I figured out there's a lot of places in the cave where you can keep hitting him down to about 20% health, but to finish him off you'll have to jump down, and as soon as you do he resets to full health again :/

That doesn't sound right... My friends and I beat him last night and his healthbar didn't regen at all. Maybe a glitch going on there?

 htj wrote:

 Necros wrote:
I'm real stuck trying to kill the leviathan :( I had a pretty big ragequit last night. I get him down to almost dead and then a bajillion worm eat me. Even if I can take out all of the worms, something really cheapshotty happens and I gotta start over.

I figured out there's a lot of places in the cave where you can keep hitting him down to about 20% health, but to finish him off you'll have to jump down, and as soon as you do he resets to full health again :/

That doesn't sound right... My friends and I beat him last night and his healthbar didn't regen at all. Maybe a glitch going on there?

If you leave a battle area, or in multiplayer if everyone is out of the battle area, the boss gets all his HP back. I think what is happening is that he is shooting him from outside the area and then when he has to go in the area to finish the fight it is seen, by the game, as actually starting the fight since all the attacks have been coming from outside the designated area (like shooting Terramorphous from above the drop zone). Since it is triggering the start of the fight by entering the zone he has all his HP.

@Ahtman.

Ah right, of course!

yeah that's what I was doing. Maybe I just need to do it on multiplayer, but if I do then the brats will take all my loots :(

It's just a tough fight for me being sniper zero. I have a pretty nice explosive chaingun that kills the worms easily, but there's so many of them and they never stop respawning, so it's like you may as well not even bother with em.. but then you start getting swarmed. I can get almost finish it, just always end up getting jumped and dead, and there's no where to really hide and try to get your shields back. And in the heat of battle, I always forget to disappear.

What grenades are you using? I find a homing transfusion to be really useful in situations like that, when I'm playing SP. A great fire and forget weapon so you can focus on taking out enemies whilst getting a semi-constant stream of health.

My grenade sucks em in then blows up. It does good damage though. I guess I just gotta remember to cloak so I can get my shields back up. I use a survivor class mod, so I can regen HPs.. but I have lots of HPs so it's kind of slow. Oh also I'm on the 2nd playthrough, maybe it's easier on the first. I'll try some more tonight and if I can't get it I'll open it up for people to join in.. I'd rather just finish it than get the loots at this point anyways.

Be sure about that, it's some pretty sweet loot! Although, of course, it'll be better if you play it with others. I'm lucky, I have friends I can play with for that. The nice thing about the Transfusions is that they give you a tidy wedge of health when you need it, rather than the slow trickle of the survivor mod. Still, horses for courses, go with whatever works. Best of luck!

 Necros wrote:
yeah that's what I was doing. Maybe I just need to do it on multiplayer, but if I do then the brats will take all my loots :(

It's just a tough fight for me being sniper zero. I have a pretty nice explosive chaingun that kills the worms easily, but there's so many of them and they never stop respawning, so it's like you may as well not even bother with em.. but then you start getting swarmed. I can get almost finish it, just always end up getting jumped and dead, and there's no where to really hide and try to get your shields back. And in the heat of battle, I always forget to disappear.

As I mentioned earlier in the thread, there is a mechanic with shields that can be VERY useful in these kinds of situations. If you have a talent that allows you to regenerate shields for a short time after killing a target, it will override the shield recharge delay and allow the shields to regenerate up to full strength. If you are playing a Sniper Zero, try this spec, which takes all of the important skills in the Sniper tree, but also puts the last three points into Grim, which regenerates your shields after every kill. If you end up depleted on shields, kill a trash enemy to kickstart your shield regen and if you have a reasonably fast shield you should be able to keep this going the entire fight.

You could also try using a Booster Shield, which drops shield boosters when damaged. You pick them up and it restores a large portion of your shields instantly. Very useful in fights where shields are a problem.

I killed it last night.. died a few times, but when I got it it was like ezmode all the sudden. I used my SMG, dunno what it's called but it shoots a row of like 10 bullets in a line straight across and does burst fire when it's zoomed. I zoomed and blasted away at the soft spots and somehow it died before a single worm spawned. I think it was even getting hit when I missed the spots too somehow. the worms all spawned at the very end but I just ran away and grabbed my loots.

Hit 50 with my Mechromancer last night and finished TVHM, so I'm on 2.5 with everything now. Got a level 50 Moxxi's Good Touch and now I can start farming named enemies for Legendary drops. Need to try to farm Terramorphous for his shield and his relic, but to do it effectively I'll need to farm up a Bee and Conference Call. Otherwise it just takes too long.

Does anyone else share the sentiment that the best part about the Captain Scarlett DLC was the head you get at the end? I finally got around to finishing it last night and I'm a little disappointed. I mean, it had some good lines and the enemies were challenging enough (especially Cursed Pirates!) but the story was super basic. More reminiscent of Borderlands 1 than the current story model they have built. The dynamic with Handsome Jack and the various twists they threw in were so well done that I guess I suspected more from this DLC.

I do like the head for Gaige though. Her outfit works well enough with it.

I got a Conference Call off THVM Warrior, and a level 50 Bee, and with the two of them I farm Terramorphous, though now just for the heads. Getting the Conference Call shotgun is the hardest part. I suppose I also need to farm a caustic version of it if I can, but atm I am a bit burnt out on farming items and want to finish Capt. Scarlet when I get the chance, but I tend to get sidetracked in multiplayer.

Well i just got my first orange item and im happy as all hell with it! BUNKER droped it, its got a 83% chance to absorb incoming bullets, sadly its only lvl 25 so its probably goin to get replaced real soon

I found the Deliverance. It is awesome ^^

Ahtman wrote:I got a Conference Call off THVM Warrior, and a level 50 Bee, and with the two of them I farm Terramorphous, though now just for the heads. Getting the Conference Call shotgun is the hardest part. I suppose I also need to farm a caustic version of it if I can, but atm I am a bit burnt out on farming items and want to finish Capt. Scarlet when I get the chance, but I tend to get sidetracked in multiplayer.

The Conference Call + Bee Shield combo is considered the most wildly overpowered combo in the game. The Bee adds damage to every pellet fired from shotguns, and Conference Call fires far more pellets than it says on the weapon. In addition to the 7-9 pellets fired from the weapon, it fires another two sets of 7-9 crossing from either side, perpendicular to the primary shots. And as if that were not enough, each of those pellets spawns a new pellet when it hits a target that ricochets and can hit even more targets, including bouncing into other parts of the primary targets body. The result is that the Conference Call gives you massively inflated damage on its own, and when paired with a shield that adds 56k damage to every pellet, it drops just about everything in one shot that isn't a boss, and it drops bosses hilariously fast.

If you want an even MORE broken combo, take that Conference Call and Bee, and use it to farm Madame Von Bartlesby until she drops a Baby Maker. The Baby Maker is a Tediore SMG, so when you reload it, it's thrown like a grenade....except it splits into three smaller versions that all do full damage. Add to this the fact that A) the damage you do based on how many bullets are in the magazine when it is reloaded, and B) The Bee adds its amp damage to every bullet in the magazine when the weapon is thrown. This gets even sillier when you combine it with Gaige's Anarchy skill, which when stacked to 400 provides an additional 700% damage on top of the already ludicrous damage output of that weapon. When used properly, this is the result.

Tazz Azrael wrote:Well i just got my first orange item and im happy as all hell with it! BUNKER droped it, its got a 83% chance to absorb incoming bullets, sadly its only lvl 25 so its probably goin to get replaced real soon

Yeah, you got The Sham which is an excellent shield for the level, but the wiki doesn't seem to have any information on if he can drop it at level 50 on a 2.5 playthrough. The only picture is a level 26 version, so I dunno. I would love to have one at level 50 to swap out and regenerate ammo if I'm in a protracted combat, but I'd hate to have to farm him for hours to get one, especially if it's an ultra-rare drop at higher levels.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:I found the Deliverance. It is awesome ^^

I got mine at level 42, which saddens me, because farming the guy that drops it is a bitch and a half. He does not always spawn, and the drop rate on any kill after the 1st is VERY low. Not to mention when you re-load after a kill you have to run through the entire zone again to get to him. That's why I don't relish trying to farm Son of Mothrakk either.....

He can drop it at level 50 on a 2.5 playthrough.

I used it when I was playing with Eddie on the Scarlett DLC, and I never ever ran out of bullets.

Hmmm, I may need to farm up a copy then. It sounds like a good item.

What I really need to do though is finish off all of the 2.0 quests I skipped in my rush to get to 2.5 so I don't have a cluttered quest log. Finishing the Captain Scarlett DLC was somewhat annoying when I had to keep scrolling through 20+ "Undiscovered" markers for various zones.

Omg, got fire hawk shield around Lv 40 for deathtrap. Hilarious.

You know, I'm not too keen on that shield for Deathtrap. The problem I was running in to is that the shield gets depleted early, but it gets off about about 3 bursts before it kills everything around him and his shield begins to regenerate. This is all fine and good, but he almost ALWAYS gets hit again before his shield can fully regenerate, and the shield will not nova upon depletion again unless it fully regenerates. Basically what I'm saying is that the shield gets off about 3 novas and never novas again for the entire combat. If it had a very long delay (6+ seconds) and a very fast recharge rate (30% or more) it would operate well enough to be used on a regular basis, but the version I have at level 50 has too quick of a delay (under 4 seconds) and too slow of a recharge (12-15%). Unfortunately it can't really be farmed considering it's a quest reward or I might try to get a better one.

I guess you could have an alt not complete the quest until 50.

That is likely what I will do with all of my other characters. I'm working on a Zero and a Maya, and I will be starting an Axton tomorrow evening but he likely will not be 50 for a while (some friends and I are doing a 4 player game, one day a week every Tuesday evening, using the same characters from 1-50). We shall see if I get luckier on one of those characters.

Speaking of luck, it seems the vault hunter relic works pretty well (the bonus for buying the Mechro pack thing). My axton was played without it and my Mechro was played with it (basically equipped for all but the hardest stuff).

Drops seemed better and my Mechro had about 40 more Eridium then my Commando at the end. Of course, I think I did more gambling, but I don't know how much that helped.

The Vault Hunter relic is nearly useless. Likely you just had better luck on your Mechromancer.

The reason the Vault Hunter relic is so terrible is because the percentages are multiplicative, not additive. For example, if a boss has a 1% chance to drop a given item, an additive percentage increase of 5% would make the total drop rate 6% (1% + 5% = 6%), while a multiplicative drop rate increase of 5% would make the total drop rate 1.05% (5% of 1%, or 0.01 x 1.05 = 0.0105). Furthermore, it's speculated that this could actually NEGATIVELY impact your chances to get orange items, since the multiplicative percentage would affect blue and purple items far more drastically due to their larger base percentage chance to drop. I honestly think it's a bug, and it should be additive, but as far as I know there is no official word one way or the other.

As for the Eridium, gambling makes a huge difference. In fact, I maxed my Eridium just playing the slots with less than $1 million spent. If you gambled even 20% more on your Mechromancer, that likely made up the difference. Besides, I don't believe the Vault Hunter relic affects currency.....but I could be wrong since technically Eridium is rare currency......

Heh probably is useless. Although I've gotten plenty of oranges so far, so it doesn't seem to hurt.

I'll probably drop it for a while and get some real relics. Right now I'm playing split screen two players so I have ha two of those relics on. My alt just sits in town and soaks up xp. Although I did get a team fire rate mod for him. Is that infinite range?

As far as I know, it should be. It affects the whole team no matter where they are.

Can you split screen with the same gamer tag or do you have to use a different account next to your primary? I've done split screen with a friend on his profile, but never tried double-loading my profile to split screen.

I'm on PS3 and use the same account. THe only weirdness is that you don't get your Badass perks on the second window, although it still counts them and you can spend points next time you load that character.

Odd. Didn't know that was an option on PS3. I don't think you can do that on 360 because gamertags are unique and I don't believe you can double load them. I could be wrong though.....

Yeah, it's pretty awesome. It makes Claptrap's stash pretty irrelevant though since I can just mule stuff off on other characters with a quick load.

Speaking of mules, the incredibly small amount of bank space makes me want to make a few characters that will play up to Sanctuary, then just gamble until they get enough Eridium to buy full bank and bag slots. A mule or two to hold onto the weapons I'm not using but don't want to sell would make managing my bag slots a lot less annoying.

Keep in mind that if you load a character (PS3 at least), they teleport to your current location.

So if I make a new lv1 alt and load him onto my lv 43 Mechro while she's in Sanc, the Lv1 appears in Sanc. You can then give them money to gamble and they get the cheapest price for gambling.