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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:00:28
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Spawn of Chaos
Northern Saudi Arabia
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I have a copy of the chaos codex.
Does anyone want to know anything specific?
I will not post pictures
OR Links ,
but I will answer questions
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/10/02 16:03:23
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:03:45
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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Can you pm me the rules for noise marines and their weapons/points costs?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:04:03
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Regular Dakkanaut
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What sort of options do the Chaos Chosen have compared to what they used to be? I heard they lost Infiltrate, but do they still cost 18pts, can take 4-5 special weapons... What seperates them from just a CSM squad that has a few extra weapons and are overpriced?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:05:40
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Who gets access to demonic mounts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:07:40
Subject: Re:CSM RULES OUT
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Regular Dakkanaut
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Obliterators - did the point cost or stat line change at all?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:08:27
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Myrmidon Officer
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Does it have the Special Character overload that other codecies have?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:09:18
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Foxy Wildborne
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I'm impressed that Marks are actually priced according to usefulness. MoS is just 1pt on Obliterators, for example.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:09:45
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Spawn of Chaos
Northern Saudi Arabia
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Lord and sorceror can ride mounts.
Chosen - up to four can have a special or CC
one can take a heavy weapon
Otherwise looks like the same options as CSM
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Obliterators are 70 now and can take marks, otherwise looks the same
I don't know what you mean by special character overload, there are some new unique weapons for HQ's though.
Like kharn's flamer from skalathrax, It's a torrent weapon the chews through marines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:13:12
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Foxy Wildborne
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That flamer is totally sweet, sure blows the old Kai Gun out of the water.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:14:30
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Spawn of Chaos
Northern Saudi Arabia
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not to mention a deamon prince can take it
handheld hellhound hell yeah!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:17:01
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Regular Dakkanaut
Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
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mauzer wrote:
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Obliterators are 70 now and can take marks, otherwise looks the same
I don't know what you mean by special character overload, there are some new unique weapons for HQ's though.
Like kharn's flamer from skalathrax, It's a torrent weapon the chews through marines.
Cool thanks. Price wise, what kind of weapon would be similar to the cost of adding the MoN to them?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:18:02
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Foxy Wildborne
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Random observations:
Vehicle upgrades are priced pretty low, the Havoc's cost has been halved for example.
There are only 2 Daemon Weapons, not counting the ones on special characters, and one is Khorne only.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:18:17
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Spawn of Chaos
Northern Saudi Arabia
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oblit pay 6 for nurgle
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/10/02 16:18:57
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:18:35
Subject: Re:CSM RULES OUT
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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What do generic Daemon Weapons do? Are there god specific ones still?
EDIT: Blackfang got it already... so no Kai Gun? Can a Prince be Mastery 3?
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7K Points of Black Legion and Daemons
5K Points of Grey Knights and Red Hunters |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:21:03
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Spawn of Chaos
Northern Saudi Arabia
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there is a khrone axe that adds 2 to str and -1ws/bs +deamon weapon rule
Lords cost like a raider with flickerfield
There are no generic just a maul and axe,
The flamer seems to be basically what the kai gun would be and personally, is way better. Marine save ignoring strength of a marine torrent and soul blaze for 30pts is awesome
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/10/02 16:22:18
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:21:33
Subject: Re:CSM RULES OUT
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Foxy Wildborne
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There is Khorne one that is +2 STR, AP2, Blinding, gives Rage and -1WS/ BS to user. Strikes at initiative, as does Kharn's Gorechild!
The other one is a mace, so AP4, wounds on 2+, anyone who fails his save must pass a T test or be removed, if this happens everyone within 3" of the wearer must also make a T test or take un unsaveable wound. Automatically Appended Next Post: There is a chaos artefact that allows the user to generate an extra psy power every turn from a random table (including Divination) but it costs a lot and causes nasty hits to the user.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/10/02 16:23:11
The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:23:48
Subject: Re:CSM RULES OUT
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Ruthless Interrogator
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Can Daemon Princes take Marks in addition to being a "daemon of x"?
What are the options of Fabius Bile's enhanced warriors?
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You can never beat your first time. The second generation is shinier, stronger, faster and superior in every regard save one, and it's an unfair criticism to level, but it simply can't be as original. - Andy Chambers, on the evolution of Games Workshop games |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:24:00
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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mauzer wrote:
The flamer seems to be basically what the kai gun would be and personally, is way better. Marine save ignoring strength of a marine torrent and soul blaze for 30pts is awesome
Sweet! And Lords can take this? My Lord with the dragon headed kai gun thing has been pouting for a long time...
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7K Points of Black Legion and Daemons
5K Points of Grey Knights and Red Hunters |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:24:41
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Are the Forge/Mauler fiends and the Hell Dragon thing any good?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:24:47
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Foxy Wildborne
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There is also a non-daemonic weapon that starts out as a power sword but against one chosen character becomes Str x2, AP1, Instant Death.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:25:23
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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lord_blackfang wrote:I'm impressed that Marks are actually priced according to usefulness. MoS is just 1pt on Obliterators, for example.
Wait, MoS giving FnP is one point and MoN giving Fear is 6 points on Oblis? I must me missing something here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:25:54
Subject: Re:CSM RULES OUT
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Foxy Wildborne
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Starfarer wrote:Can Daemon Princes take Marks in addition to being a "daemon of x"?
What are the options of Fabius Bile's enhanced warriors?
No.
Just one unit of CSM gets Fearless and +1 Str for free. Automatically Appended Next Post: His Master's Voice wrote: lord_blackfang wrote:I'm impressed that Marks are actually priced according to usefulness. MoS is just 1pt on Obliterators, for example.
Wait, MoS giving FnP is one point and MoN giving Fear is 6 points on Oblis? I must me missing something here.
MoS gives +1 initiative.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:26:33
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Spawn of Chaos
Northern Saudi Arabia
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fabius biles enhanced warriors are a free upgrade to +1 strength and fearless but now only one unit per army of normal CSM
on the flamer, lords smiths sorcerors and apostles. it replaces one wep and is one per army
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:27:59
Subject: Re:CSM RULES OUT
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Any form of Psychic defenses? Hood type things or runic armor type stuff?
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7K Points of Black Legion and Daemons
5K Points of Grey Knights and Red Hunters |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:28:00
Subject: Re:CSM RULES OUT
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Ruthless Interrogator
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lord_blackfang wrote: Starfarer wrote:Can Daemon Princes take Marks in addition to being a "daemon of x"?
What are the options of Fabius Bile's enhanced warriors?
No.
Just one unit of CSM gets Fearless and +1 Str for free.
Cool, thanks. And I assume the enhanced CSM squad can take other options, like marks and icon as normal?
Any truth to the rumor of poisoned flamers for Plague marines?
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You can never beat your first time. The second generation is shinier, stronger, faster and superior in every regard save one, and it's an unfair criticism to level, but it simply can't be as original. - Andy Chambers, on the evolution of Games Workshop games |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:28:20
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Spawn of Chaos
Northern Saudi Arabia
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175 for the dual hades version so hell yes they are.
Your other alternative is havocs who pay 25 for flakk missiles but cost like normal marines
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:29:05
Subject: Re:CSM RULES OUT
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Spawn of Chaos
Northern Saudi Arabia
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BladeWalker wrote:Any form of Psychic defenses? Hood type things or runic armor type stuff?
Didn't see anything, but it's a big codex.
Fallen we know it's been around, I kept trying to post it, but it's against dakka rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:29:28
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Foxy Wildborne
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I just noticed that only the Lord and Sorcerer can. The other two have an exception in their entry.
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The old meta is dead and the new meta struggles to be born. Now is the time of munchkins. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/04/06 03:30:17
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Spawn of Chaos
Northern Saudi Arabia
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woops ill edit that thanks black fang
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 16:31:29
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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What options does the Hellbrute have for weapons? Can it take marks?
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