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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 19:54:27
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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nothing . Kelly gave them fear as signature power . lolz.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 19:55:38
Subject: Re:CSM RULES OUT
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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Slaanesh gets +1 Initiative, the icon (an upgrade) give FNP
Nurgle gets +1 Toughness, the icon gives Fear
Edit: Correction to Mark of Nurgle, It does not give FNP, It gives +1 Toughness
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/10/02 19:57:41
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 19:55:45
Subject: Re:CSM RULES OUT
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Dakka Veteran
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Plague marines get FNP, mark of nurgle is just fear.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 19:57:41
Subject: LOL I REALIZED YOU CAN CHANGE THIS. BUTTS PHFCHFCHF
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
Inside of a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
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Oh alright, thanks for clearing that up. Any special weapons for Nurgle only?
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angel of ecstasy wrote:
You take a dump, you flip through the Dark Eldar codex, the concept art for Lelith Hesperax shows up and you pee on the floor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 19:57:55
Subject: Re:CSM RULES OUT
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Mark or Icon wise?
Icons = Slaanesh FNP and Nurgle Fear
Marks = Slaanesh +1 intiative and Nurgle +1 Toughness
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 19:58:11
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Ruthless Interrogator
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Does it say anywhere that Plague Zombies count as non-scoring? I heard this numerous times, but Typhus' page makes it seem like they'll still be scoring. Of course, knowing GW, I'm not counting on all relevant rules being on the same page...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 19:58:37
Subject: Re:CSM RULES OUT
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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Corrected my post. Plague Marines get FNP, MoN is +1T, Icon is Fear
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 19:59:06
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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Are Typhus' zombies still scoring? I want to do a zombie horde army, but it might put a damper on things if I have to take allies to have any scoring unit.
Ninja'd
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/10/02 20:01:21
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 19:59:44
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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whigwam wrote:Does it say anywhere that Plague Zombies count as non-scoring? I heard this numerous times, but Typhus' page makes it seem like they'll still be scoring. Of course, knowing GW, I'm not counting on all relevant rules being on the same page...
They are still (scoring) troops.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 20:00:43
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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Nothing says that Zombies aren't scoring.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 20:01:57
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Mohoc wrote: whigwam wrote:Does it say anywhere that Plague Zombies count as non-scoring? I heard this numerous times, but Typhus' page makes it seem like they'll still be scoring. Of course, knowing GW, I'm not counting on all relevant rules being on the same page...
They are still (scoring) troops.
Yep^ No real downside to these guys except lack or ranged weaponry.
If you want to run and army of 260 zombies at 2k, have a blast!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 20:03:13
Subject: Re:CSM RULES OUT
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
Inside of a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
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How big of a zombie horde can you take?
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angel of ecstasy wrote:
You take a dump, you flip through the Dark Eldar codex, the concept art for Lelith Hesperax shows up and you pee on the floor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 20:04:30
Subject: Re:CSM RULES OUT
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 20:05:27
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Make that 420 Zombies at 2k
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 20:06:20
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Ruthless Interrogator
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Do regular Obliterators still come with a Power Fist? Or did those go to the Mutilators only?
Also, any new options available to Plaguemarines? Or same as ever?
Thanks everyone for taking the time to answer Q's.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 20:08:30
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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You pay 50 points for the first 10, then 4 for each additional cultist.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 20:09:20
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Dakka Veteran
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whigwam wrote:Do regular Obliterators still come with a Power Fist? Or did those go to the Mutilators only?
Also, any new options available to Plaguemarines? Or same as ever?
Thanks everyone for taking the time to answer Q's.
Oblits have fists like before.
Plaguemarines have roughly the same options as before however have knives now standard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 20:12:06
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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whigwam wrote:Do regular Obliterators still come with a Power Fist? Or did those go to the Mutilators only?
Also, any new options available to Plaguemarines? Or same as ever?
Thanks everyone for taking the time to answer Q's.
No problem
Oblits have a power fist,
Plagues can get 2 special weapons, 2 plasma pistols, an Icon, and mutations, meltabombs, and some other gear for the champ.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 20:12:57
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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whigwam wrote:Do regular Obliterators still come with a Power Fist? Or did those go to the Mutilators only?
Also, any new options available to Plaguemarines? Or same as ever?
Thanks everyone for taking the time to answer Q's.
Oblits still have powerfists
Plaguemarines look good. 2 Special Weapons (replace pistol, not the bolt gun), FNP, Fearless, MoN, Blight Grenades (Offensive/Defensive), Krak Grenades, 120pts for the first 4+Champion, 24 pts for up to 15 more
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 20:20:40
Subject: Re:CSM RULES OUT
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Is there anything special like in SW that you get multiple HQ for each slot?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 20:22:51
Subject: Re:CSM RULES OUT
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Dakka Veteran
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Grimwulfe wrote:Is there anything special like in SW that you get multiple HQ for each slot?
Nope nothing like that, nor is there a unit like wolf guard or royal court.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 20:38:58
Subject: Re:CSM RULES OUT
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Ruthless Interrogator
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Are spawn still an entry? Do they take up a FOC slot this codex, and roughly how much do they cost? Are they as crappy as ever, rules wise?
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You can never beat your first time. The second generation is shinier, stronger, faster and superior in every regard save one, and it's an unfair criticism to level, but it simply can't be as original. - Andy Chambers, on the evolution of Games Workshop games |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 20:43:19
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Dakka Veteran
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Spawns are still a Fast Attack, still meh though marking them might be worthwhile, they are a bit cheaper now, plus get a chart bonus
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 20:50:27
Subject: Re:CSM RULES OUT
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Regular Dakkanaut
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What FOC slot do the Dragons Take?
Daemon princes?
Greater Daemons do they still kill a champion?
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Dark Star Founding Member
NOVA 2011 Trios Team Champions and Proud member of Team Bastard
Conflict 2011 Doubles Team Champions
NOVA 2012 Trios Team Champions
WGC 2013 Doubles Best Sportman
NOVA 2013 Trios Team Champions
DaBoyz GT 2013 Best Theme 1st Place
Adepticon 2014 Championships - Best Imperial Showing
Adepticon 2014 Team Tourny - Best Imperial Showing
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 21:00:43
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Hell Drakes are Fast Attack, Daemon Princes are HQ, Greater Daemons no longer exist, you can get a Greater Daemon via the allies rule
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 21:05:31
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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Hi gents, thanks for answering all these questions.
Slightly more meta, who can deepstrike/outflank/play maneuver shenanigans? Are Rhinos now the same cost as loyalist rhinos? And what has leapt out to you lucky people as being particularly cool, exciting and/or awesome list-wise?
Also, there was something in the rumor mill - a scroll or something - that's meant to be pretty exciting, any gen on that or other character upgrades that're new?
And could we get confirmation on the effects of marks/icons for Khorne and Tzeench? Can Bikes/ Raptors/Terminators use all marks and icons? And I'm guessing still no noise marine weapons available for anything outside the basic cult marine unit?
Regards,
Cap'n R
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Run a whole lot of wfrp and other rpg's, play The Woods and Kill Team, gather and look mournfully at imperial guard knowing I'll never finish enough to use them on the tabletop |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 21:16:07
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Veteran Inquisitor with Xenos Alliances
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Can mutilators and obliterators be taken in units larger than 3 models?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 21:17:04
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Spawn of Chaos
Northern Saudi Arabia
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chosen lost infiltrate
The same units deep strike
Rhinos cost the same and upgrades to them are cheaper
Scroll is pretty useless, only for tzeentch, you get to use one random power each turn but it hits you with st3 ap1 every time
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 21:17:54
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Dakka Veteran
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aka_mythos wrote:Can mutilators and obliterators be taken in units larger than 3 models?
nadda
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/02 21:18:21
Subject: CSM RULES OUT
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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aka_mythos wrote:Can mutilators and obliterators be taken in units larger than 3 models?
Units of 1-3. Mutators are Elites, Oblits are Heavy
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