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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 12:43:06
Subject: who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Yellin' Yoof
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So i was thinking if every follower who were dedicated to one god only were thrown into an arena and pitched against each other who would win? Im talking about everyone from the grater to lesser demons, the traitor legions including the Primarchs, the cultists the lot. Anyone who worships chaos undivided would not be included and the gods cannot intervene while the battle takes place and once your dead that's it there's no coming back Lucius the Eternal,demons and every other Resurrection trick in the book are included to that rule.
i personally think Nurgle followers would win as they'd cripple the others cultist pretty much immediately with disease and as they killed more and more spread disease to wear down the others numbers while they steadily advance into the other three factions. But that just my opinion i wona know what you lot think about it? Who would win and why?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 12:49:32
Subject: Re:who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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Agree grandpa Nurgle is DA man...
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 13:12:01
Subject: who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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In terms of brute power, Khorne. In terms of cunning/intelligent application of force, Tzeentch. Nurgle is eldest and more importantly, is tied to the very nature of life, so I would say he has more energy than the other two. In terms of pure power, I'd say Slaanesh is less powerful than the other three, but his/her/its influence is usually enough to break the three-way deadlock, giving him/her/it more influence than pure power alone would give.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 14:39:47
Subject: who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Dakka Veteran
Snake Mountain
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I think I remember reading somewhere that Nurgle had the highest amount of followers, so he would probably have a fair amount of weight to throw around.
I simply believe Khorne would win, as I'm in no way biased
Also because in terms of martial prowess he probably has the best quality of fighters, although the other two will have their tricks etc.
If I had to bet, I'd go with a draw and Malal making a suprise rush in at the end to rock bottom everyone and go for the easy pin. (Wrestlings still cool right?)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 15:01:07
Subject: who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Guelph Ontario
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Khorne's followers get stuff done.
Angron's crusade did more damage than any Black Crusade, and he managed it with only close combat troops
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 15:20:30
Subject: who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Veteran Inquisitorial Tyranid Xenokiller
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Hands down Tzeentch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 15:21:13
Subject: who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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Grand daddy Nurgle
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 15:36:07
Subject: who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Dakka Veteran
Snake Mountain
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Arcsquad12 wrote:Khorne's followers get stuff done.
Angron's crusade did more damage than any Black Crusade, and he managed it with only close combat troops
You sir. You have ended this discussion, and for that I'm eternally grateful
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 15:54:40
Subject: who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Khorne. It was in the starter guide for AOBR, canonically Khorne is the strongest of the four, in terms of strength and followers. Followers = strength, and Khorne has the most.
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Pretre: OOOOHHHHH snap. That's like driving away from hitting a pedestrian.
Pacific:First person to Photoshop a GW store into the streets of Kabul wins the thread.
Selym: "Be true to thyself, play Chaos" - Jesus, Daemon Prince of Cegorach.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 15:54:59
Subject: who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Khorne is described as the "mightiest" but none of the Gods can defeat the other nor do they have any real attention of doing so.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 16:14:35
Subject: who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
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Khorne is the strongest, since he's the war god and "there is only war".
Tzeench is a very close second, since anywhere there are humans, there is ambition, scheming and machinations. In fact, Tzeench was apparently more powerful back when he had his staff of every spell evah or whatever that the Blue Scribes are trying to gather.
Nurgle's power is not fixed, and sometimes swells to eclipse the other gods, and at other times bottoms out.
Slaanesh is the new guy, but still no slouch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 16:15:27
Subject: who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Harriticus: No, but the OP was asking for the strongest of the four.
Gork and Mork for the win though :
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/10/10 16:16:33
Pretre: OOOOHHHHH snap. That's like driving away from hitting a pedestrian.
Pacific:First person to Photoshop a GW store into the streets of Kabul wins the thread.
Selym: "Be true to thyself, play Chaos" - Jesus, Daemon Prince of Cegorach.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 16:42:16
Subject: who is the strongest of the four powers?
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World-Weary Pathfinder
Corn, IL, USA
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Rysaer wrote:. . . Nurgle . . . would probably have a fair amount of weight to throw around. Probably nothing, most of his followers are bloated jelly-like fatties. His greater demons alone provide weight that can rival most apartment complexes. (Ok, enough fat jokes about Nurgle). Of the 4, I would have to go with Papa Nurgle. Reasons are a follows: Slaanesh is all about hedonism and pleasure. There will be "pleasure" in slaying the other followers (killing nerds / jocks / and fat-smelly kids) but slaanesh's followers are typically pretty thin and focused more on various forms of getting their rocks off than killing. They lose a combative and tactical edge here and would likely be cut down by Khorne (kill, kill, kill), Tzeentch (if-elif-elif-elif-elif- etc. . .) and Nurgle (splat, burble-burble, HURRRRK) in short order. Tzeentch is nice and scheme-y. Unfortunately, his forces also work through subversion and overly intricate plans just to do the whole "<dry wash hands> Yes. Just as planned." thing. As the setting is "thrown into an arena" they would lose some of their strength. While they would probably trump Slaanesh's failure of forethought and lack of combat abilities, they would have great trouble with Khorne (built for killing) and Nurgle (built for making things fall apart). Khorne would put up one hell of a fight. He and his followers embody killing and anger itself. While Khornite berserkers are some of the most feared units in the fluffy universe. They would be in their element here and have an edge above the previous two and be on par with Nurgle as far as "situational bonuses" are concerned. Nurgle, as others have said, is not the strongest, most depraved, or wisest. Instead he is the oldest. With rot and decay being his primary "concern" he has little in the way of overbearing tactics or approaches to situations. Because of this, he would receive neither bane nor boon from being in an arena situation. However, since his units' stink make even space Marines want to puke out their Preomner and Multi-Lung, anything not demon or SM would quickly be incapacitated before the fight even began. Once the fight did get started, Khorne would do well until Nurgle goo began to rust armor and weapons and Nurgling bites festering and causing limbs to fall off mid swing. This with all of Nurgle's forces working at full capacity would quickly swing things in his favor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 16:42:34
Subject: who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Yellin' Yoof
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Omegus wrote:Khorne is the strongest, since he's the war god and "there is only war".
Tzeench is a very close second, since anywhere there are humans, there is ambition, scheming and machinations. In fact, Tzeench was apparently more powerful back when he had his staff of every spell evah or whatever that the Blue Scribes are trying to gather.
Nurgle's power is not fixed, and sometimes swells to eclipse the other gods, and at other times bottoms out.
Slaanesh is the new guy, but still no slouch.
I wasn't on about the gods them selves i was on about there folowers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 16:57:59
Subject: Re:who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Mutating Changebringer
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Malal.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 17:02:24
Subject: Re:who is the strongest of the four powers?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Khorne is the strongest.
However, Tzeentch is the most Powerful.
Without Change, no champion can be given his mutations. None of the 4 power's plans can come to pass.
Tzeentch is the embodiment of Chaos itself, the other 3 are mearely facets of his existance. They exist because he exists and because of his own contradictions. Plots weaving and interweaving. Connected and yet seperate. Seperable and yet inseperable.
Everything is Tzeentch, and Tzeentch is everything.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 17:06:54
Subject: who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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Tzeentch was the strongest, when he had the crystal staff.
Did however take the combined efforts of the other gods to get him to give it up. (broke it instead to stop them having it)
Also agree with templar on this one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 17:09:55
Subject: Re:who is the strongest of the four powers?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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And all this time the Bluescribes are going around collecting the pieces
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 17:12:53
Subject: who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Towering Hierophant Bio-Titan
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Because no one can work out what they do, how they do it or what they are thinking.
Too busy attacking eachother
Gotta say, the fluff in the daemons dex is pretty damn good
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 18:22:39
Subject: Re:who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Khorne is usualy described as the strongest of the chaosgods because war and hatred are pretty much omnipresent.
Tzeentch is usualy described as the second in strenght.
Nurgle is said to wax and wane in power. He can become the strongest of the four when the galaxy is ripe with disease and pestilence and untold billions pray to Nurgle for salvation, only to lose much of his might when the diseases run their course.
Slaanesh is the weakest of the great powers, although his influence pervades all layers of society ( especialy on the more developed worlds ).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/10 19:43:48
Subject: who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Wight Lord with the Sword of Kings
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Khorne. For killing powers him and that's what its al about here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/11 02:46:31
Subject: who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Khorne has the largest amount of followers so he has a superior advantage, also the CSM who have dedicated themselves to him are the most skilled combatants. Because of the sheer number of chaos worshipers though the fight would take a long time and that is where nurgle will win, armour would rot, cuts will become infected and weapons and armour will decay
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/11 04:48:18
Subject: Re:who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Mutated Chosen Chaos Marine
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They're all about equal.
Nurgle is the God of the subconscious response to the inevitability of death, which is the drive to live life to the fullest.
Tzeentch is the God of hope and the desire for change that fills the hearts of all mortal men.
Slaanesh if the God of ecstasy who finds pleasure in every sensation, the more extreme the better.
Khorne is the God of anger and wrath, the first of the Pantheon to be birthed.
At times the powers of individual Gods wax and wane, especially Nurgle who is at his strongest when his diseases ravage the galaxy and at his weakest when they're finally stopped, but no God ever manages to rise too far about his brothers. For a time Slaanesh was not yet sentient, so Khorne was likely the strongest (facing no opposite from the rest of the Pantheon), but this has changed. Similarly, Nurgle was birthed before Tzeentch and so there was a time when in the warp when hope was hopelessly outweighed by fear.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/11 05:30:35
Subject: Re:who is the strongest of the four powers?
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RogueSangre
The Cockatrice Malediction
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According to the fluff Draigo is more powerful than any of them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/11 05:56:48
Subject: who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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Well, since this thread seems to be more about the followers, I am of the personal opinion that Ahriman is the single most competent Chaos-aligned individual in the galaxy, so maybe Tzeentch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/11 06:59:04
Subject: who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Terrifying Doombull
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Arcsquad12 wrote:Khorne's followers get stuff done.
Angron's crusade did more damage than any Black Crusade, and he managed it with only close combat troops
the fluff clearly states that Khorne is the strongest of the four dark gods. So you sir win this tread hands down
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/11 07:22:42
Subject: who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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Khorne is the mightiest, but Tzeentch is by the most successful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/11 21:16:39
Subject: who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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The powers of the Gods depend of the state of the galaxy, when Disease is ripe, Nurgle is strongest, when Hate and Anger fill the streets, Khorne is the most powerful. When all things are changing and Man is hungry for more power, Tzeentch will be there to whisper words into the ears of governors. Slaneesh will always be there as he feeds of the Sensations of Humans, since they can be passionate about anything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/11 21:20:57
Subject: Re:who is the strongest of the four powers?
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World-Weary Pathfinder
Corn, IL, USA
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Gonna disagree here. Malal's parasitic nature renders him and his followers no stronger than any other chaos god. As they fought, Malal's very few minions would be losing strength as followers of the others were slaughtered. Because of this alone, Malal's followers could hope for nothing more than a close second.
That aside, Malal is perpetually caught in copywrite-hell and thus doesn't officially exist in the 40k universe. Instead he was replaced with "Malice", a general dislike of everything and slightly more insane followers (compared to the other gods).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 19:19:49
Subject: Re:who is the strongest of the four powers?
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Furious Raptor
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Khorne is the mightiest, but Tzeentch is by the most successful.
I think if you had a planet and it was a war zone between the four gods something like this would happen.
First off Slaanesh would just loose, sorry not going there.
Khorne has already won
Nurgle has already won
Tzeentch is winning, always.
The fight would be over, and Khorne's followers would be the victors. Blood would be spilled in his name so in his mind hes won. Nurgle would be grinning because all his disease would be brewing on the about to die and dying people. He'd get more followers after the battle. And it would all be apart of Tzeentch's big plan so hes winning lol
Just a funny vision i had
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"There is no escape from chaos, it marks us all."
"Only i can hear your prayers here my friend, and i'm afraid i will not answer them."
"It must be magnificent to see a planet writhe and scream to feel it compulse beneath your own feet, witness it dying with living eyes such marvelous spectacle, the skulls are my gift, in time perhaps i will share this gift with every living soul in the galaxy."
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