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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/12 18:40:17
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Alpharius wrote:60% accurate is a slight hop way from...50%, and all that implies.
This doesn't sound super-awesome, but I guess it still puts him towards the top of the list?
What would 50% imply? This isn't tossing coins.
Just randomly shouting out ... dunno ... X will get released on Y and A will have a unit called B doesn't have a coin-toss chance of being true.
It's rumours. Over 50% is very good IMO. Given that it's rumours, I wouldn't expect more than 5% or 10% to be spot-on for most people even if they have a source.
I wouldn't expect people making gak up to ever get over 1%.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/12 18:40:26
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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Tac Squads will remain 10-man in one box, I'll eat my own shoes if they don't. They're one of the few units in fluff to have strict guidelines governing unit size, and GW would be mad (or rather, MADDER) to stop selling a full tactical squad in one box.
I love scouts, so new models and a new transport sounds cool.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/12 18:47:32
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Alpharius wrote:60% accurate is a slight hop way from...50%, and all that implies.
This doesn't sound super-awesome, but I guess it still puts him towards the top of the list?
50% right for a yes /no question would not be impressive
50% describing a unit/loadout for a given GW faction of which there are loads as far out as he seem to do IS impressive
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/12 19:06:09
Subject: Re:Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Everyone is free to believe or not believe rumours on things more than a year in the future, futile to force someone in either direction.
Stickmonkey has made correct and incorrect long-time predictions. And it is obvious that he doesn't make them up, but gets them from early production stages. Release dates are scheduled later, and even Harry is cautious to predict those (remember that a lot of ready products wait years for a release). Personally I trust these rumours as blurry views into the far future, esp. as we don't have anything else in that direction.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/12 19:13:05
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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These better come out 8-10 months after my tau, so i can afford these.
Also, the librarian mini?
I dont care if i have to promise GW my first born son, i want that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/12 19:19:02
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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hotsauceman1 wrote:These better come out 8-10 months after my tau, so i can afford these.
Also, the librarian mini?
I dont care if i have to promise GW my first born son, i want that.
I would love for all the HQs to come in plastic kits with all the options. I can dream right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/12 19:41:25
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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CaptainLoken wrote:I just want to know if the whole "the Tau are our salvation" fluff rumor is true. I REALLY hope that it is not true, as it would fly in the face of years of existing fluff, not to mention invalidating Black Library novels and such. I can see GW Marketing doing this, however. Pair the worst selling line with the bestselling line, and watch the bucks fly in! Of course, they could make the Tau a better selling line if they would UPDATE their Codex….oops, just reset the timer. Sorry guys.
In order for that to be true GW would have had to say Battle Sisters are our salvation.
But that would also require GW actually wanting Battle Sisters to sell as opposed to quietly strangling them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/12 19:44:20
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Kid_Kyoto wrote: CaptainLoken wrote:I just want to know if the whole "the Tau are our salvation" fluff rumor is true. I REALLY hope that it is not true, as it would fly in the face of years of existing fluff, not to mention invalidating Black Library novels and such. I can see GW Marketing doing this, however. Pair the worst selling line with the bestselling line, and watch the bucks fly in! Of course, they could make the Tau a better selling line if they would UPDATE their Codex….oops, just reset the timer. Sorry guys.
In order for that to be true GW would have had to say Battle Sisters are our salvation.
But that would also require GW actually wanting Battle Sisters to sell as opposed to quietly strangling them.
I think you mean the Silent Sisters. As far as I know Sisters of Battle are not the psychic pariahs that the Silent Sisters in the HH were. I could be wrong since I have never cared for the SoB.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/12 19:48:59
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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OverwatchCNC wrote: Kid_Kyoto wrote: CaptainLoken wrote:I just want to know if the whole "the Tau are our salvation" fluff rumor is true. I REALLY hope that it is not true, as it would fly in the face of years of existing fluff, not to mention invalidating Black Library novels and such. I can see GW Marketing doing this, however. Pair the worst selling line with the bestselling line, and watch the bucks fly in! Of course, they could make the Tau a better selling line if they would UPDATE their Codex….oops, just reset the timer. Sorry guys.
In order for that to be true GW would have had to say Battle Sisters are our salvation.
But that would also require GW actually wanting Battle Sisters to sell as opposed to quietly strangling them.
I think you mean the Silent Sisters. As far as I know Sisters of Battle are not the psychic pariahs that the Silent Sisters in the HH were. I could be wrong since I have never cared for the SoB.
I nthink you missed the "worst-selling line" point KK was making...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/12 19:49:00
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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No I mean that Sisters must be the worst selling line.
All metal? Ridiculously expensive? No real chance for customization? Models 10-15 years old? Sub-par rules?
I mean really, how could they not be?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/12 19:51:45
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Dysartes wrote: OverwatchCNC wrote: Kid_Kyoto wrote: CaptainLoken wrote:I just want to know if the whole "the Tau are our salvation" fluff rumor is true. I REALLY hope that it is not true, as it would fly in the face of years of existing fluff, not to mention invalidating Black Library novels and such. I can see GW Marketing doing this, however. Pair the worst selling line with the bestselling line, and watch the bucks fly in! Of course, they could make the Tau a better selling line if they would UPDATE their Codex….oops, just reset the timer. Sorry guys.
In order for that to be true GW would have had to say Battle Sisters are our salvation.
But that would also require GW actually wanting Battle Sisters to sell as opposed to quietly strangling them.
I think you mean the Silent Sisters. As far as I know Sisters of Battle are not the psychic pariahs that the Silent Sisters in the HH were. I could be wrong since I have never cared for the SoB.
I nthink you missed the "worst-selling line" point KK was making...
Kid_Kyoto wrote:No I mean that Sisters must be the worst selling line.
All metal? Ridiculously expensive? No real chance for customization? Models 10-15 years old? Sub-par rules?
I mean really, how could they not be?
 ya, you two are right, derp.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/12 19:53:46
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Alpharius wrote:60% accurate is a slight hop way from...50%, and all that implies.
This doesn't sound super-awesome, but I guess it still puts him towards the top of the list?
SO far as i care all he needs to be is roughly 20% accurate - because of everything he lists what I really want is the MK VIII armor!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 00:51:56
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Missionary On A Mission
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Interesting note: In the Sisters of Battle book Hammer & Anvil the SoB use a vehicle called a Venator.
Pretty much every single new Necron unit was mentioned in the book with exact details. The SoB had 2 things they currently do not, the Venator and Gun-Servitors.
The Venator is not the same as the FW one, in the book it was described as a 5 person transport with a heavy bolter on top. It was also pretty much open topped.
Perhaps SoB will get their own version of the above mentioned kit, or perhaps the above kit is actually a SoB kit and not a SM kit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 00:55:50
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Isn't Mk. 8 just the same as Mk. 7 but with a gorget? They're pretty awesome looking but I always think of the Mk. 8 as being reserved for squad sergeants and the like.
Still, if any/all of this was true, that would be pretty neat. I just hope, hope that the new Tactical squads dont come in boxes of 5. That would just suck.
I'd personally rather see plastic Sisters than more Marines, but at least a new plastic kit for them would be cool. I've just been assembling some and the kit is starting to show its age a little...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 01:11:59
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Time frame? Did I miss it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 01:13:50
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Zealous Knight
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MadCowCrazy wrote:Interesting note: In the Sisters of Battle book Hammer & Anvil the SoB use a vehicle called a Venator.
Pretty much every single new Necron unit was mentioned in the book with exact details. The SoB had 2 things they currently do not, the Venator and Gun-Servitors.
The Venator is not the same as the FW one, in the book it was described as a 5 person transport with a heavy bolter on top. It was also pretty much open topped.
Perhaps SoB will get their own version of the above mentioned kit, or perhaps the above kit is actually a SoB kit and not a SM kit.
would it perchance be something like this?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 01:22:27
Subject: Re:Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Yes, I know FW makes one but the one in the book was more of a light transport than a light assault vehicle.
There were 5 SoB inside the vehicle if I'm not mistaken, and it was described as enclosed with a back door and a heavy bolter on top.
The picture I got in my head when reading was something similar to the Japanese LAV.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 01:57:14
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Member of the Ethereal Council
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Wow, I remember having to pull one of those things up a hill.
The marines left the parking break on as a prank toward our group.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 02:03:38
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Calculating Commissar
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I know it is unlikely, but I would love if BA got the jeep.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 02:05:03
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Highlord with a Blackstone Fortress
Adrift within the vortex of my imagination.
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H.B.M.C. wrote:New Techmarine mini sprue. Conversion Beamer.
Edit: very similar to current tech ax Techmarine. Layered body. Has tech ax, tech sword, plasma pistol, combi weapons, couple variants on servo arms, and conversion Beamer. 2 mini sprues.
All of my money. All of it.
For all your bile about GW you are like the abused wife who after dithering about pressing charges after sporting her latest pair of black eyes rushes back to hubby crying "but I love him".
We gamers are more alike than we care to admit
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 02:19:34
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Zweischneid wrote: Alpharius wrote:60% accurate is a slight hop way from...50%, and all that implies.
This doesn't sound super-awesome, but I guess it still puts him towards the top of the list?
What would 50% imply? This isn't tossing coins.
No kidding!
It isn't anything more sinister than 'half of what he posts isn't going to happen!'
I'll be more than happy if the MKVIII part is true though - then, it will be All Hail Stickmonkey, All The Time!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 02:40:55
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Most Glorious Grey Seer
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SM's record on digital products is utter crap. Worse even than guessing.
Here's October's example:
October releases:
Codex: CSM (going up same weekend as codex released) TRUE
How to paint: CSM PENDING
Tactica: CSM PENDING
And a few more WFB TOO VAGUE
Notice how there is NOTHING there about either of the "A Call To Arms" items. "How To Paint Citadel Miniatures: Alpha Legion" is different from his rumor (and in fact invalidates it) because it shows that the H2P series is going by legion just as it is started out the loyalists by chapter (Ultramarines). Pretre should really just mark that as FALSE.
Also, notice how Tactica didn't get released and his WFB thing doesn't even qualify as a half-arsed attept at rumormongering.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 02:46:39
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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We should probably take the accuracy discussion over to the accuracy thread.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 03:42:06
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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And avoid have every rumour thread descend into "He's not accurate". That's really fething dull... PM sent to avoid having my post replaced with red text.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 03:49:29
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Badass "Sister Sin"
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I know, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 04:10:18
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Bolognesus wrote: MadCowCrazy wrote:Interesting note: In the Sisters of Battle book Hammer & Anvil the SoB use a vehicle called a Venator.
Pretty much every single new Necron unit was mentioned in the book with exact details. The SoB had 2 things they currently do not, the Venator and Gun-Servitors.
The Venator is not the same as the FW one, in the book it was described as a 5 person transport with a heavy bolter on top. It was also pretty much open topped.
Perhaps SoB will get their own version of the above mentioned kit, or perhaps the above kit is actually a SoB kit and not a SM kit.
would it perchance be something like this?

There was some discussion of a transport version of that. I don't remember if it was in the IA, or in the FW fluff bits about the chassis.
I had forgotten the Venator from Hammer&anvil. Interesting.
I hope the scout rumors are true...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 04:52:03
Subject: Re:Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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I'm probably in the minority in that I hope these kits don't come out too soon. I'd be fine with it being five years out. It would give me a chance to at least enjoy the boxes of marines I've got laying around.
As for the SoB stuff mentioned in this thread, weren't there product codes for plastic kits listed in that big Release Schedule of sorts that popped up awhile ago?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 04:54:03
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Yeah, there were a few infantry units listed in them, such as an apparent alternative use for seraphim models. No further rumors or information though. As usual, for Sisters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 05:01:36
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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Melissia wrote:Yeah, there were a few infantry units listed in them, such as an apparent alternative use for seraphim models.
No further rumors or information though. As usual, for Sisters.
It implied Sisters having a release shortly beforehand and the ones in that list being a second wave of sorts. We're still yet to see anything come out of that list since it's so far out though.
I'm honestly pretty okay with these being far out. I'm busy enough as is between my Guard and the new Chaos stuff.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/10/13 05:53:44
Subject: Early Space Marine Rumours by Stickmonkey
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MadCowCrazy wrote:Interesting note: In the Sisters of Battle book Hammer & Anvil the SoB use a vehicle called a Venator.
Pretty much every single new Necron unit was mentioned in the book with exact details. The SoB had 2 things they currently do not, the Venator and Gun-Servitors.
The Venator is not the same as the FW one, in the book it was described as a 5 person transport with a heavy bolter on top. It was also pretty much open topped.
Perhaps SoB will get their own version of the above mentioned kit, or perhaps the above kit is actually a SoB kit and not a SM kit.
You just described an immolator which is a SoB rhino that can only transport 6 models and has either a tl heavy flamer, mm or heavy bolter on top.
Hope the heavy flamer thing is true, can finally use the tacticle marine with one in a normal game instead of having to use home rules.
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