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Just tried out an ally combination of Chaos Marines with several heldrakes with the masque allied in, sure she dies the turn after she comes in, but with the helldrakes it is point and click - remove 2-3 of their units from the board...

Step 1: activate Heldrakes forge
Step 2: pavane of slaanesh their unit into a flame template shape
Step 3: place the flame template over said unit.. rerolls to wound, 2's to kill later
Step 4: remove that unit from the board.

And the Masque for 100pts lets you do it 3 times a turn relying on BS4.. If you want more durability play with a Deamon Prince..

It's like Lash V2...

C-Hydra

 cute-hydra wrote:

Just tried out an ally combination of Chaos Marines with several heldrakes with the masque allied in, sure she dies the turn after she comes in, but with the helldrakes it is point and click - remove 2-3 of their units from the board...

Step 1: activate Heldrakes forge
Step 2: pavane of slaanesh their unit into a flame template shape
Step 3: place the flame template over said unit.. rerolls to wound, 2's to kill later
Step 4: remove that unit from the board.

And the Masque for 100pts lets you do it 3 times a turn relying on BS4.. If you want more durability play with a Deamon Prince..

It's like Lash V2...

C-Hydra

Works well with flamers of tzeentch as well.

This is something I was thinking about as well, and it's not like minimum Daemonettes and the Masque cost a large tax in allies.

BTW, never realised that Heldrakes had Daemonforge, so thanks for pointing that out.

I don't know if the masque and heldrake are such a good match.

I mean at least with flamers you can put them in the same wave so its a gurantee. With the heldrake its random when you get them, certainly impossible if the masque shows up turn 1. If that happens chances are the masque is dead before the turkey comes on board.

Hmm, good call the fact that you are reliant on putting the masque in the second wave..

My army runs 3 pigeons anyway so one of them will come in the turn the masque does.. That said, I am beginning to think a Deamon Prince of Slaanesh would work better because it does something that isn't just Lashing...

Interesting point, the blue scribes also have Pavane, are BS4, more versatile and can join a unit of horrors etc..

C-Hydra

Wait, the Blue Scribes of Tzeentch have Pavane of Slaanesh?

Yes yes, under deamonic gifts in their army list entry.. I believe they have ALL the powers not just the tzeentchian ones.

C-Hydra

You also get two of the minor HQ choices for one, so you could double up the masque and the scribes and put them in opposite waves. Or just take two heralds in chariots.

Yes, the burning dance works wonders.
also on a 1-3, the blue scribes do a double pavane

Scribes work wonders for this.

The masque is good for it since you get 3 shots with pavane, but with only a ++ save and low T to keep her alive, she wont last long. (no IC rule)

I usually use the scribes to line up units then flame them to death, however, in larger games i run massive units of flamers, so dont really need to bunch a unit up to toast them, even if its a 20-30 model unit.

 Jackal wrote:
Scribes work wonders for this.

The masque is good for it since you get 3 shots with pavane, but with only a ++ save and low T to keep her alive, she wont last long. (no IC rule)

I usually use the scribes to line up units then flame them to death, however, in larger games i run massive units of flamers, so dont really need to bunch a unit up to toast them, even if its a 20-30 model unit.

What about slaanesh heralds in chariots? Can't join units either, but they have a ton of wounds and some survivability.

A good tool to improve the odds on this would be an Aegis or Bastion with a Communications Array. You can re-roll failed or successful Reserves, to maximize your chances of getting the units needed on the same turn.