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**Matt.Kingsley**

I'd say personal dimensions should be a no-no, only because in Direwolf20's SMP season 2, they caused too many problems, like no interaction between players and excessive lag. An with how many people we have, the server would probably kill itself.
In Season 3, they kept it to mining ages for the most part.

Also, the latest version of forestry (a mod that will almost, if not, never be in tekkit in the future) has recently introduced tree breeding

**IHateNids**

Pardon the noobness oh the followong question, but what is wrong with the FTB Launcher?

It makes you make a 'profile', then tells you the information you just put in isnt recognised. Do I have to make an account on a website or something?

And I have found the interwebz to be unhelpful on this one, so halpmah. Halpmahplez

**Matt.Kingsley**

You need to put your minecraft account details in

**The Dark Apostle**

How about people can apply for servers, so say as an example, I want to build a massive chaos fortress I have to full in a form, such as

Project: chaos fort
Materials: don't know what mystcraft uses to make portals
Past builds: (to know if the person is skilled at building)
Type of dimension
Etc.

Darkinnit, if you'd like I can deal with all this type of stuf as a kind of must craft moderator. I'll also sort out un-allowed dimensions.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
Sorry, *mystcraft not must craft

**Matt.Kingsley**

Mystcraft uses Quartz Crystals, but you make books to go to the ages, portals are for minecarts and mobs

It's for that reason that only Dark could really check for unautherised ages, as someone could just make a book and keep it on them always... so no one else (without special server powers) could access it.

**Dr. What**

Late to the party, but I thought the Tekkit modpack developer finally came to peace with the modmakers and got permission?

**Matt.Kingsley**

No, they are trying to get permision, does mean they will get it though.

Most of the modmakers will/have given permission, but for the FTB modpack they are working together to solve all conflicts between the mods as fast as possible, including exploits.

Other modmakers will not give permission, like SirSengir. He was really annoyed when they used Forestry without his permission, and they didn't remove it when he asked, so he inserted malious code so the the technic launcher crashed when you tried to run tekkit/technic.

**orkdestroyer1**

Yay tekkit lite and voltz mod pack!!!!
tekkit lite is a minecraft 1.4.6 version of tekkit (original tekkit has been renamed tekkit classic)
voltz mod pack features....conveyor belts and 3D launchable missiles.

**4oursword**

So, why split Tekkit as they have? To allow updates to EE3?

**Dr. What**

Matt.Kingsley wrote:
No, they are trying to get permision, does mean they will get it though.

Most of the modmakers will/have given permission, but for the FTB modpack they are working together to solve all conflicts between the mods as fast as possible, including exploits.

Other modmakers will not give permission, like SirSengir. He was really annoyed when they used Forestry without his permission, and they didn't remove it when he asked, so he inserted malious code so the the technic launcher crashed when you tried to run tekkit/technic.

Well, in that case. I'll support the move to FtB if anything,

**orkdestroyer1**

I think they split it to allow a more updated version of tekkit without getting rid of the original tekkit that we all know and love. if we say tekkit lite was 1 mod (which it isn't) it is that mod in minecraft 1.4.6.

**4oursword**

If we do go to FTB, I'll still come on. I'll miss condensors, but EMC is being rewritten, so maybe they'll return under a different name.

**darkinnit**

4oursword wrote:
If we do go to FTB, I'll still come on. I'll miss condensors, but EMC is being rewritten, so maybe they'll return under a different name.

From what I've heard, collectors are gone (free items from light), but condensers will be returning, just in a different form. Most of the Equivalent Exchange stuff needs fuel or to be recrafted after wearing out, in the form of "Minium Shards" which are obtained from killing mobs. So I'm assuming that condensers will need some form of minium fuel, but we just have to wait and see how it works.

**Corpsesarefun**

So what exactly is in the FtB pack?

**Matt.Kingsley**

FTB BETA (1.4.2) has:

Minecraft Forge
Chickenbones Core
NEI
Rei's Minimap
Advanced Machines
Buildcraft
Computer Craft
Ender Storage
ExtraBiomes XL
Factorization
Forestry
ForgeIRC
Gregtech
Industrial Craft
Inventory Tweaks
Iron Chests
Advanced Solar Panels
GraviSuite
Modular Forcefield System
Mystcraft
Obsidian Pressure Plates
Portal Gun
Railcraft
Steve's Carts
Thermal Expansion
Twilight Forest

The Direwolf20 FTB Pack (1.4.6) has:

Buildcraft
ChickenChunks
Compact Solars
ComputerCraft
EE3 (for some reason it wasn't listed, but it is part of the mod pack)
EnderStorage
ExtrabiomesXL
Factorization
Forestry
GravityGun
IC2 NuclearControl
Industrialcraft 2
Iron Chests
MiscPeripherals
GraviSuite
MFFS
Mystcraft
NEI
NEI Plugins
Obsidiplates
OmniTools
Portal Gun
Railcraft
Redpower 2
Soulshards
Steves Carts
Thaumcraft 3
Thermal Expansion
Wireless Redstone - CBE
XyCraft

FTB Magic World (1.4.5) has:

Buildcraft
CodeChickenCore
Enderstorage
ExtraBiomesXL
Forestry
ForgeIRC
InvTweaks
IronChests
Minecraft Forge
Mystcraft
NEI
NEIPlugins
Obsidiplates
OmniTools
Railcraft
Rei's Minimap
Soulshards
Steve's Carts
Thaumcraft 3
Thermal Expansion
Twilight Forest

Mindcrack FTB (1.4.6) has:

Rei's minimap
Voxelmenu
PetroGen
Advanced Machines
BuildCraft
ChickenChunks
ComputerCraft
Enderstorage
Extra Bees
ExtraBiomesXL
Factorization
Forestry
GregTech Mod
IC2 NuclearControl
IC2
Iron Chests
MiscPeripherals
Advanced Solar's
GraviSuite
Portal Gun
MFFS
NEI
Obsidiplates
OmniTools
Railcraft
Redpower
SoulShards
StevesCarts
Thaumcraft
ThermalExpansion
Traincraft
Twilight Forest
WRCBE
Xycraft

Ultimate isn't out yet, but it's expected to have all the mods in FTB BETA and Magic World, plus a few others (like RP2 and EE3)

EDIT2: Nope, looks like it was just a new version of NEI

**4oursword**

Does that not seem like more and more diverse mods than works well? I went on FTB as a test, and was instantly at an utter loss of where to start. So many ores, so many items... I've no objection to this, really- less endgame stuff. That said, the ''directly from another series'' nature of Portalgun puts me off it- other than the music discs. IndustrialCraft will, though, basically allow for infinite matter with Mass Fabricators. Very much End-Of-Game- as it should be.
Sorry for shonky style, spelling, and/or formatting- 3DS not good for typing :(

**darkinnit**

4oursword wrote:
Does that not seem like more and more diverse mods than works well? I went on FTB as a test, and was instantly at an utter loss of where to start. So many ores, so many items... I've no objection to this, really- less endgame stuff. That said, the ''directly from another series'' nature of Portalgun puts me off it- other than the music discs. IndustrialCraft will, though, basically allow for infinite matter with Mass Fabricators. Very much End-Of-Game- as it should be.
Sorry for shonky style, spelling, and/or formatting- 3DS not good for typing :(

For the "too many mods" issue, I found it was best to just start with what I knew and branch out as other mods presented alternative solutions to the other mods (for example I needed cacti-green for waterproof piping, but couldn't find any cacti, so began exploring the beekeeping mod as beeswax can be used for waterproofing).
I'm still a bit undecided on how I feel about the Portal Gun too. I wonder how long it is before Valve send a cease and desist

. When I saw Direwolf using it, it seems a bit cheat-y, certainly the "place portal in safe home, drop down into deep dangerous caves, grab loot and place portal and escape" part. But then the mods are there to provide more interesting challenges than skeletons and creepers.
Finally as for infinite matter with Mass Fabricators, they require a great deal of setup, energy and maintenance to run, so while potentially "infinite", it's not free. There's a very good discussion about the flaws and merits of Equivalent Exchange 3 and IndustrialCraft/GregTech here if you ignore the few shouty posts and just read the well formed replies.

**Matt.Kingsley**

The portal gun is now more expensive anyway, it now requires a nether star to balance out it's op-ness

**4oursword**

So which of the Modpacks in FTB is it? The top one? I'll want to have a test on it.

**darkinnit**

The Utlimate pack isn't out yet, but it will be similar to the Direwolf20 pack, or the Mindcrack pack. The Mindcrack pack is apparently harder, but I'm currently testing using the Direwolf20 pack.

**4oursword**

I've begun to do the same.

**Matt.Kingsley**

Oh, one thing I should say, Railcraft World Anchors now require enderpearls to load chunks. 1 enderpearl will load the chunk for 12 hours. A whole stack will allow the chunk to be loaded for 8 days

Of course, some one who has the time to kill 1000 endermen with a soul shard can easily make a ender pearl farm...

**shrike**

Well Schellan, true to my word, I have infiltrated your base.

Hint: look for the telltale signs!

**4oursword**

What are the possibilities of us getting some starting materials on a FTB server? I remember that on the switch from Beta to 1.0, we were allowed to transport structures. Now, anything from EE will be out, so many machines on the Tekkit Server are invalidated, meaning that a building copy is not so useful. In addition, people will just use EE to quickly run off things, stash them in chests and have them copied.
I think that some form of starting resources is a good idea. I'd like to run the idea up the flagpole and see who salutes it. Maybe a single chest of low-tier items and tools- nothing too advanced, just a few bits and bobs.

What say you, Dakka in general, and Darkinnit in particular? Feel free to shoot me down in flames if you disagree.

(Note- copied from the Minecraft thread to keep it OT)

**Matt.Kingsley**

Lol, it would be nice, but it kinda takes out some of the fun, at least in my mind.

**The Dark Apostle**

I'm agreeing with 4oursword on this. I'd like to carry over my fortress-monastery for FTB

**Dr. What**

shrike wrote:
Well Schellan, true to my word, I have infiltrated your base.

Hint: look for the telltale signs!

2 Things:

1) I cannot investigate until tomorrow morning due to slow internet.

2) You do know that I switched HQs, right? (Meaning I've transferred power to another one of the 7 bases).

**shrike**

Dr. What wrote:
shrike wrote:
Well Schellan, true to my word, I have infiltrated your base.

Hint: look for the telltale signs!

2 Things:

1) I cannot investigate until tomorrow morning due to slow internet.

2) You do know that I switched HQs, right? (Meaning I've transferred power to another one of the 7 bases).

All I know is that SchellCo. (just outside avatar's land) has been infiltrated.

**Dr. What**

shrike wrote:
Dr. What wrote:
shrike wrote:
Well Schellan, true to my word, I have infiltrated your base.

Hint: look for the telltale signs!

2 Things:

1) I cannot investigate until tomorrow morning due to slow internet.

2) You do know that I switched HQs, right? (Meaning I've transferred power to another one of the 7 bases).

All I know is that SchellCo. (just outside avatar's land) has been infiltrated.

My fortress? Then it is time to initiate my ultimate plan which will destroy the Tekkit world!

**Matt.Kingsley**

That fortress is easy to infiltrate
:shifty eyes:

I didn't do anything, I promise (besides spit golden apples and cake everywhere...)