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I know little of the context of ages and the like, however, a skylands server would be appreciated (I just play the game like vanilla anyway even with the mods). =)

I think we should actually do something community-based with the server. Some adventure sculpting would be nice to see; I for one would love a giant ravine with a jungle in it. See the picture a few pages back. It'd be something we can all get into, but of course we have to support ourselves. If this was to go ahead, I'm probably going to try getting a Rending Gale first to help me get around.

Skylands ...with a huge jungle gorge?

That would actually be pretty cool...

 darkinnit wrote:

FM Ninja 048 wrote:Mystcraft ages - I think Mining, Home (normal world) and E-penis waving world for big builds () would be fine

4oursword wrote:Mystcraft Ages: A Mining Age is an excellent idea- as I understand them, they can be remade when depleted, and do not blight the overworld's landscape. I also support a world for Mega-Builds, a la Grundz's Imperial Palace and the like.

It actually hadn't occurred to me that the mining world could very easily be regenerated, so that's great. Of course it's an entire dimension, so it would be as limitless as the overworld, but the ability to regenerate the world so people don't have to travel so far could be useful. Link books would negate this requirement somewhat.
Seems at least two people support a "showcase" world for mega builds, but do you want to suggest any ideas for it? Void world? Aether/skylands world? Just a big plain sandstone flat world? Or something completely different?

From what I recall, hostile Mobs don't spawn on mycelium. Therefore, the mega-builds world should be floored with it. That does leave the problem that any slightly dark patches in any creations instantly fill with mobs, so we'd have to build dark holes in the floor to act as mob sinks.

I also like the idea of an Aether-style world, but it's impractical for builds and cumbersome for mining.

 Wyrmalla wrote:
I know little of the context of ages and the like, however, a skylands server would be appreciated (I just play the game like vanilla anyway even with the mods). =)

Mystcraft ages are just additional dimensions, like the Nether and the End. However, it allows you to customise them before they are generated, so you can have, for example, an all snow dimension full of nether mobs, or a dimension that is only jungles and deserts, or a cave world (like the nether, but overworld style stone caves instead), or a skylands world etc etc. Mystcraft ages are not separate servers, they're separate dimensions (you can still chat to others on the server). However, Mystcraft ages have one difference to the Nether and the End, if you die in a Mystcraft age, you respawn in the same age, so you can become trapped if you lose your linking book and no portal or "star fissure" is available. I will probably be making sure at least a portal or star fissure is present for each age though.


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 4oursword wrote:
From what I recall, hostile Mobs don't spawn on mycelium. Therefore, the mega-builds world should be floored with it. That does leave the problem that any slightly dark patches in any creations instantly fill with mobs, so we'd have to build dark holes in the floor to act as mob sinks.

I also like the idea of an Aether-style world, but it's impractical for builds and cumbersome for mining.

Mobs do spawn on Mycellium in normal biomes, but mobs don't spawn anywhere in Mooshroom biomes. I'll have to check if it's possible to create a "single biome: mooshroom biome" age (it probably is). Then mobs don't spawn even in the dark. This would negate the need for mob griefing to be disabled, those who want no mob griefing could hang out in the "mooshroom mega-build" age and those who want a more vanilla experience could hang out in the overworld. However, we can still discuss it further of course.

An aether age would not be suitable for mining, but then, there's always the mining age just next door...

And are these dimensions user created or done by the server? ...I just really love skyland biomes. * Though yes I am rather lemming like. ...So if they were present Darkinnit would have to disable "Wyrmalla fell to death/fell out of the world" messages probably.

Hey mining a diamond block only to find that its the bottomost on an island is such a wonderful feeling. A bit like the little rodent from Ice Age; just as it gets the nut it sets off a giant volcano. ......Nobody link any nuts to pressure plates that set off volcanoes please.




Well that's this thread's daily dose of inaneness, see y'all tomorrow. =)

 darkinnit wrote:
It actually hadn't occurred to me that the mining world could very easily be regenerated, so that's great. Of course it's an entire dimension, so it would be as limitless as the overworld, but the ability to regenerate the world so people don't have to travel so far could be useful. Link books would negate this requirement somewhat.
Seems at least two people support a "showcase" world for mega builds, but do you want to suggest any ideas for it? Void world? Aether/skylands world? Just a big plain sandstone flat world? Or something completely different?

A normal world would be good, flatlands and voilds make problems if you want to make a project involving deep water, mably a flatlands world that has the floor at about 20-30, or a creative normal world (I've not looked up what's possible)

 Wyrmalla wrote:
And are these dimensions user created or done by the server?

Mystcraft allows user creation of ages by default (by using Descriptive Books to "write" an age), however, as each age adds more overhead to the server, I'll be disabling Descriptive Books (and possibly also the Writing Desk) and only creating a few ages for everyone to share. Which is why I'm asking for suggestions and ideas, so we can get a relative consensus on a nice set of ages that keep most people happy (will never be able to please everyone).

 FM Ninja 048 wrote:
A normal world would be good, flatlands and voilds make problems if you want to make a project involving deep water, mably a flatlands world that has the floor at about 20-30, or a creative normal world (I've not looked up what's possible)

I hadn't considered projects involving water/lava where void worlds would be a pain (also currently oil unfortunately spawns where-ever it likes in any kind of world, which spoils the look of void or skyland worlds a bit). In Mystcraft ages you can make the world flat at y=64, but I'm not sure if it's possible to adjust the flatland height. I do know a Creative age is not possible (or you could just carry infinite items back to the Overworld).

So far it looks like we're heading towards the following, but feel free to throw in any other opinions:

1) Overworld
2) Nether
3) End
4) Twilight Forest*
5) Mining age
6) Mega-build age
7) Aether/Skylands age

* Twilight Forest is not currently in the Direwolf20 pack, but was in the BetaA and is in the Mindcrack Pack, so is likely to be in Ultimate

1-3 are standard and can't be changed.
4 is its own mod so could be removed, but I like it...
5-7 Are the customisable Mystcraft Ages.

i think we should have a PvP dimension. kind of like somewhere to go 'trophy hunting' Predator style. i can understand if this is a bad idea though.

i also think we should have a 'working vehicle' dimension, where Grundz can make a firing Titan, and someone is bound to make a Baneblade.

0.0 Twilight Forest? I'm filling my home with cicadas.

We need a hack/mine server so we can play a more RPG minecraft with players as dwarves,mages,elves and humans.....this would be a good idea for a dakka server.

We can already Roleplay on the current Dakka server...
I am currently roleplaying a South Korean pop star whose recent viral #1 has propelled him into fame. After waking in an abandoned Cold War experimental facility he accidentally activates a mass teleportation device which sends him and the section of the facility he was in spinning through reality. He has recently found himself in Minecraft Tekkit
#GangnamStyle4lyf

I wish I could play on the tekkit server/this server idea possibility....D:

Pvp, please pvp, and darkinnit, no personal worlds no play for me. Maybe have a veteran membership where this member is allowed to use a personal realm.

If personal worlds makes the server unplayable it will be Personal Worlds, No play for anyone.

Personal preferences don't really come in as a factor. It has to be a group consensus really. (Bar Darkinnit, he can have his own little flying spaghetti monster realm for all he likes...).

PvP? What would the purpose of a dedicated world like that be? Why not just build a house in the regular server and say that's what its for? Minimising the amount of memory is major factor, whilst including a PvP server which may not see as much use as the others (there's a dozen active users at one time at the most, splitting them between multiple servers isn't going to have a large turnout on each)is a tad wasteful.

I say all this as I drop rocks on you from my castle in the sky of course. ^^'

 IHateNids wrote:
i think we should have a PvP dimension. kind of like somewhere to go 'trophy hunting' Predator style. i can understand if this is a bad idea though.

i also think we should have a 'working vehicle' dimension, where Grundz can make a firing Titan, and someone is bound to make a Baneblade.

Don't forget that some ages can be dual purpose and that each age has as much space as an entire Minecraft world. There are PvP areas on the current Vanilla Dakka server, just do the same again, designate an area in an existing dimension for PvP (even just a place in the overworld). Same for 'working vehicles', they could just be in the mega-build age?

Well, PvP I suppose works as it is.

However, working vehicles might not be the best idea on the Mega Build one, cos if weve all got weapons firing all the time, things might die...

Just make an arena in each dimension, themed to fit in it. Could even be part of that dimension's spawn hub.

the dimensional spawn should be in the middle of the pvp arena for each dimension.

 IHateNids wrote:
if weve all got weapons firing all the time, things might die...

Lag generated in one age would lag all ages and dimensions. So it doesn't matter where they are. But if you meant they might shoot something, then just build somewhere with enough empty space.

I must say I would rather like a Skylands Age...

I reckon flat grassland for the mega-build area, it's more generic.

... though I'd like a whole dimension to freely build middle earth as a community project without bumping into a huge titan or evil castle... though yeah, if I can't get one, why not everyone else... so yeah, more wishful thinking than anything...

Mushroom biome with grass instead of Mycelium? I reckon that going with a shroom biome is the way to go.

The Dark Apostle wrote:Pvp, please pvp, and darkinnit, no personal worlds no play for me. Maybe have a veteran membership where this member is allowed to use a personal realm.

1: Why would Darkinnit care if one player leaves?
2: Personal ages are a stupid idea. If I want to build whatever, I'll go out a couple of thousand blocks into the nether and throw down a portal. There you go- you may as well be in a personal dimension.
3: Pvp is not worth another world- see Wyrmalla's and Darkinnit's respsonses.

 darkinnit wrote:
But if you meant they might shoot something, then just build somewhere with enough empty space.

I think if they can shoot with enough foirce to dent something, they will be able to move...

 Mynameisalie wrote:
I think we should actually do something community-based with the server. Some adventure sculpting would be nice to see; I for one would love a giant ravine with a jungle in it. See the picture a few pages back. It'd be something we can all get into, but of course we have to support ourselves. If this was to go ahead, I'm probably going to try getting a Rending Gale first to help me get around.

Rending Gale currently doesn't exist.

Also, seeming it was at the end of the last page, Dark, th community area should have a Link Book Modifier, so we can easily make intra-dimensional linking books, as normal linking books only allow for inter-dimensional travel (ie, they can only be used in a separate age)


Also, for who are interested in Thaumaturgy, some stuff on nodes

Long story short, plant a silverwood near your base.
Also, if a node has EXTREMELY high levels of flux, there's a chance it will spawn a Giant Angry Zombie. It's 3.5 blocks tall and has double the health of a normal Angry Zombie, and it does more damage.

Those concepts go over my head. I'll merrily go off and live on a hill somewhere in a wooden hut as world destroying weapons go off all over the place and "wisps" float about.

Wyrmalla's dimension. A 4x3 dirt hut floating in the void. ...Perhaps with a pumpkin on the roof. I accept all visitors.=)

But on a less crazy hermit on the hill floating in space note:

The Twilight Forest; As far as I can tell this uses vannila textures. In its naming I had imagined it as a kind of purply fantasy place. Is it possible to impliment seperate texture packs base on the dimension? (yeah, I do just happen to have links at hand to pictures of bunnies)

Overworld/Mining Age: What's the difference? That ores respawn? If that's just it then I hazard to question why you'd need another world for it, or why include it at all? ...And, if there was two seperate worlds, both the same bar one difference, then why not role in the Mega-Build age with one of those (as the population of any of the dimensions would only be a few at a time, so it wouldn't be likely that little builds would interfere with the larger ones. ...Or is there an issue of people developing inferiority/superiority complex? ^^)?

Pernickity points?

The mining age is so people can quarry and mine the word into swiss cheese, without leaving gaping holes all over the overworld. Also because it's just a mining free for all, nobody needs to claim territory (apart from quarries) as all ores are just first come first served (this is debatable of course). If a mod or vanilla later introduces a new ore, or we find ores need rebalancing, then the mining age can be reset to update with the new ores.

It is possible that the mining age could be placed in with the mega build age, but it would make it harder to reset chunks (or the whole age) and people would end up claiming territory again.

The mega build age would be a rather flat boring world designed to give room for larger structures and projects. The overworld would be its usual pretty self designed for people who like to integrate their builds into the landscape.

Not pernickity points at all, as sometimes questions like this can reveal a flaw in my thinking, so I do appreciate them.

Dark, I'm just going to assume there would be plenty of warning before the mining age was reset, in order to allow people to reclaim quarries, tunnel bores, turtles, etc?