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2012/10/26 21:09:48
Subject: Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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The two rivals for the primarchs!
Just wondering who Dakka likes more and why 
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2012/10/26 21:14:14
Subject: Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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Perturabo by far, he is one of my favorite Primarchs.
He is among the best trolls in the setting, having made no less than two of his brother Primarchs (Including Dorn) look like total tools.
Plus he's bros4life with Angron.
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2012/10/26 21:20:51
Subject: Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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When I first got interested in 40k, I loved the Imperial Fists and so I also loved Rogal Dorn. At first, I was really impressed with his dogged loyalty and his unique humility before the Emperor. Over time, I became more fascinated with his anxieties, his ultimate personal breakdown following the installation of the Emperor on the Golden Throne, and the splintering of his personality into the successor chapters of his legion. His portrayal in the HH series has been okay if nothing particularly special so far, which is kind of a shame. I hope they do better with him at the close of the Heresy, where is about to fall himself.
That said, I voted for Perturabo.
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2012/10/26 21:23:48
Subject: Re:Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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For me pre-heresy Dorn.... post heresy anti-codex , best codex chapter , BT anti codex crap made me dislike him ...
@pilau knows how cool was Dorn back in the WD...
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2012/10/26 21:25:03
Subject: Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
Noctis Labyrinthus
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The Iron Cage is the most epic feat of trolling and douchebaggery of a Primarch. Easily.
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2012/10/26 21:32:20
Subject: Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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I love Dorn, one of the most loyal Primarchs around. Plus his Legion guarded the Emperor before Custodes, now how cool is that?
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2012/10/26 21:35:03
Subject: Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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Khm what ??? You mean with the Custodes ?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/10/26 21:36:39
ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2012/10/26 21:38:07
Subject: Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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Wait where does it say they guarded him before the custodians? Don't think that's right
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2012/10/26 21:38:51
Subject: Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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My avatar should give you a hint as to who I voted for. And the Iron Cage Incident is easily one of my favorte pieces of fluff in the 40k universe.
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2012/10/26 21:40:30
Subject: Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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 Coolyo294 wrote:My avatar should give you a hint as to who I voted for. And the Iron Cage Incident is easily one of my favorte pieces of fluff in the 40k universe.
Dorn is your man...:-)
But seriosly what do you like about Perturabo? Just curious.....
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2012/10/26 21:43:26
Subject: Re:Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
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Dorn because I love the fists, and had an army of them until I realised that I had better things to do than paint 50 layers of yellow, so they are now storm wardens (the sig lies)
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2012/10/26 21:49:16
Subject: Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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"In prosecuting the Great Crusade, the Imperial Fists acted as the strategic reserve of the Emperor's forces and served as his personal Praetorians. As a strategic reserve force, the Legion rapidly deployed between battlefields, characteristically employing siege and defensive warfare as the situation required, specialising in each."
Index Astartes II.
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2012/10/26 21:52:52
Subject: Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
Croatia
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 Brother Captain Alexander wrote:
"In prosecuting the Great Crusade, the Imperial Fists acted as the strategic reserve of the Emperor's forces and served as his personal Praetorians. As a strategic reserve force, the Legion rapidly deployed between battlefields, characteristically employing siege and defensive warfare as the situation required, specialising in each."
Index Astartes II.
Then you write "in front of" custodes there were "IF" NOT "before"....
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2012/10/26 21:55:21
Subject: Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Anyway, they guarded him before Custodes became massive. Only later when Emperor found Dorn and Custodes became more massive did the Emperor stop using them as his bodyguards.
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The universe has many horrors yet to throw at us. This is not the end of our struggle. This is just the beginning of our crusade to save Humanity. Be faithful! Be strong! Be vigilant!
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2012/10/26 21:59:02
Subject: Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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Brother Captain Alexander wrote:Anyway, they guarded him before Custodes became massive. Only later when Emperor found Dorn and Custodes became more massive did the Emperor stop using them as his bodyguards.
Didn't know that, are you sure...? I' aways thought that custodes predate astartes...
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2012/10/26 22:05:12
Subject: Re:Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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Psh Dorn is the man.
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2012/10/26 22:11:56
Subject: Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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 DarthMarko wrote:
Didn't know that, are you sure...? I' aways thought that custodes predate astartes...
Quite sure, Index Astartes II said that they were his personal Preatorians before he found Dorn, and even after some time he discovered him.
Meaning that he either was developing them or that they were to few to accompany him across the galaxy.
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2012/10/26 22:20:42
Subject: Re:Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Dorn, primarch progenitor!
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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2012/10/26 22:34:38
Subject: Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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Stealthy Grot Snipa
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Custodes do predate fists
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2012/10/26 22:37:34
Subject: Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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 Tiger9gamer wrote:The two rivals for the primarchs!
Just wondering who Dakka likes more and why
Dorn's the man. I'm a Crimson Fist, i gotta, bra.
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2012/10/26 22:38:33
Subject: Re:Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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Dorn. He is just a bro. Not to mention I cannot stand Perturabo.
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2012/10/26 22:40:58
Subject: Re:Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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2012/10/26 22:44:52
Subject: Re:Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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IMPERIAL BRO-FIST! 
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2012/10/26 23:02:55
Subject: Re:Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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ADB: I showed the Wolves revealing the key weakness at the heart of the World Eaters; showing Angron that his Legion was broken and worthless compared to the others; that he was the one primarch who couldn't trust his own warriors, and that they didn't care if he lived or died; showing that loyalty to brothers and sons is the heart of success for the Legiones Astartes, to the point even Lorgar makes a big deal out of saying the World Eaters and their primarch were massively outclassed by Russ, and Angron was too stupid to see the lesson Russ had sacrificed time, sweat, and blood, to teach. We're talking about a battle the Wolves won, by isolating the enemy general through pack tactics, and threatening to kill him, without a hope of defending himself. It was a balance, 50/50 - Angron overpowered Russ, and the Wolves were losing ground to the World Eaters; but Russ and his warriors had Angron by the balls, and barely broke a sweat. They won, no question. Lorgar even says: "The Wolves won, meathead."
Dorn won’t help you either. He’s too busy being the Emperor’s groundskeeper, hiding behind the palace walls. The Wolf is too busy cutting off heads as our father’s executioner, while the Lion holds on to his secrets, and has no special fondness for you. Who else will come? Not Ferrus, certainly. Nor Corax either. Even as we speak, I suspect he flees for Deliverance. Sanguinius?’ Curze laughed cruelly. ‘The angel is more cursed than I. The Khan? He does not wish to be found. So who is left? No one, Vulkan. None of them will come. You are simply not that important. You are alone.’ Konrad Curze to Vulkan
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2012/10/26 23:13:35
Subject: Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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Solahma
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Enough with the spam.
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2012/10/26 23:58:47
Subject: Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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 haha Alright.
I myself like Dorn because he was the Primarch of imperial Fists (one of my favorite chapters and founding one of my Iron Knights) I always loved siege warfare and he personified mastery of this (even with the whole Iron Cage kerfluffle.) Also he isn't perfect, but he does the best he could after the heresy.
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2012/10/27 04:56:42
Subject: Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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DarthMarko wrote: Coolyo294 wrote:My avatar should give you a hint as to who I voted for. And the Iron Cage Incident is easily one of my favorte pieces of fluff in the 40k universe.
Dorn is your man...:-)
Dorn is most certainly not my man.
1. Cool colour scheme
2. A legitimate reason to rebel against the Imperium, instead of being a whiny bitch like Lorgar
3. Siege tactics are cool
4. Artillery
5. More artillery
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2012/10/27 05:02:24
Subject: Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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Dorn, because Perturabo was a bit of an idiot.
"Oh derp, I'm tired of being the guy who does sieges! I'm gonna betray everyone I ever knew, and join the other side... just so that I can do more sieges!"
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2012/10/27 05:05:12
Subject: Perturabo Vs. Dorn! Who do you like more?
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Banelord Titan Princeps of Khorne
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 Melissia wrote:Dorn, because Perturabo was a bit of an idiot.
"Oh derp, I'm tired of being the guy who does sieges! I'm gonna betray everyone I ever knew, and join the other side... just so that I can do more sieges!"
That is not and never was Perturabo's issue. He was very well-aware and proud of his affinity for siegecraft (Which is largely why Perturabo and Dorn have a rivalry in the first place), his issue was that his legion was spread thin for garrison duty, and that his own contributions to great battles were often entirely overlooked in favor of his brothers.
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2012/10/27 05:07:55
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So it was his massive ego then. I still don't respect his reasons.
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