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Ok so ive got a big tournie coming up and was just wondering what your opinions were for GK..... Paladins or Purifiers. Now Paladins are good & all but in the last 6th ed tournie i played with them i was f**ked up the ass..... Thrice. i just want to know your

go purifiers (cheapness and still killy)

Paladins are good unless people go hammernators which they do now, hammernators smack around paladins like there is no tomorrow.

i know hey! and vindicators..... feth vindicators. thats like someones anti paladin unit... "oh theres a 10 man unit of 700 points hmm let me take my 100 point model and rape them" its the ultimate feth you to paladin players

Paladins were never a great competitive list because they struggled with objective missions. And now in 6th that weakness is even more pronounced.

Plus they can't kill terminators like they used to anymore.

 Grey Templar wrote:
Paladins were never a great competitive list because they struggled with objective missions. And now in 6th that weakness is even more pronounced.

Plus they can't kill terminators like they used to anymore.

Paladins also got raped and still get raped by DE

Paladins really only win at being a small army that you can fit into one case that migth have a chance of winning against some armies. You will have some fun if you take them to a tourney but you wont win.

ok so purifiers?? since they have all the same ranged power... save the extra durability. but the question is.... MSU or 10 man Presience?

 Exergy wrote:

 Grey Templar wrote:
Paladins were never a great competitive list because they struggled with objective missions. And now in 6th that weakness is even more pronounced.

Plus they can't kill terminators like they used to anymore.

Paladins also got raped and still get raped by DE

Paladins really only win at being a small army that you can fit into one case that migth have a chance of winning against some armies. You will have some fun if you take them to a tourney but you wont win.

And most of the time if a Paladin list won it was because the opponent did something stupid, like try and kill the Paladins in melee.

Neither. I refuse. I'm going to stick with my Strike/Interceptor/Terminator list and there's not a thing you muchkins can do about it.

*pause*

All right, got that out of my system. Purifiers are likely the better choice, running MSU gives you versatility (being able to fit them into your Razorback if you take one means that you can move a lot faster, splitting the unit forces the enemy to split their fire and you don't lose any guns while getting to shoot at more things); Paladins are grossly overpriced and with 10-man Purifier squads you're entirely too vulnerable to artillery.

Ok so basically just Crowe as HQ? and i shouldnt bother wasting points on coteaz?

crowe as a solo HQ is a pretty bad idea now a days. You want to save that "slay the warlord" point for something else. coteaz is fine as a choice.

For more stuff:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/460371.page

Fl4m3 wrote:
ok so purifiers?? since they have all the same ranged power... save the extra durability. but the question is.... MSU or 10 man Presience?

People said MSU was dead just like vehicles were dead. It's not true. MSU is stronger than ever, and is definitely the way to go, with as many Razorbacks with psybolt ammunition as you own.

If you're worried about first blood or whatever, don't even bother. MSU has no effect on first blood, really. It's whoever goes first.

Yes it is easier to kill vehicles in 6th edition with the hullpoints. However, the fact that clansing hits make them "only loose 1 hull point" along with the fact that you can still snappfire while stunned means that MSU is not so dead. Vehicles are easier til kill, but until it is dead it packs a bigger punch.

Fl4m3 wrote:let me take my 100 point model and rape them

Exergy wrote:Paladins also got raped and still get raped by DE

Jesus Christ, are you both 12?

Anyway, Paladerps and Purifiers both suck. Paladins are crazy expensive, small in numbers and are easy to instakill with S8+. Purifiers look good on paper as effective in CC and shooting, but in reality you'll only be doing one of those a turn and you spend a lot for each model with the same durability as a 13 point chaos marine.

Take Strikes. They're cheap, shoot as well as anything and leave you a lot of points for other units or allies to better round out your army.

paladerps, i like that. and ok ill take your advice and try them. 15 btw not 12

 Chumbalaya wrote:

Fl4m3 wrote:let me take my 100 point model and rape them

Exergy wrote:Paladins also got raped and still get raped by DE

Jesus Christ, are you both 12?

Anyway, Paladerps and Purifiers both suck. Paladins are crazy expensive, small in numbers and are easy to instakill with S8+. Purifiers look good on paper as effective in CC and shooting, but in reality you'll only be doing one of those a turn and you spend a lot for each model with the same durability as a 13 point chaos marine.

Take Strikes. They're cheap, shoot as well as anything and leave you a lot of points for other units or allies to better round out your army.

Purifiers don't suck. They are a steal for their points.

yes, you are only as durable as a 13 point chaos marine. But that is what balances them. Otherwise they would be OP.

yes i do agree with grey templar there.