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A police force has filmed an officer "stealing" bicycles in full public view to show "just how easy" it is for a thief to get away unchallenged.
PCSO Neil Spiring, of Avon and Somerset Police, used bolt croppers and brute-force to 'steal' four bikes.
To further highlight his staged activity the officer at one point dresses in a skeleton outfit.
The force said it wanted to encourage members of the public to call 999 as soon as they see a crime taking place.
'Have-a-go-hero'
Avon and Somerset Police said the faster it is alerted to crime the more likely it can catch thieves
It added that on one occasion, more than 50 people walked past and saw the staged crime but nobody called the police.
Insp Keith Rundle, said: "We're not suggesting that anyone become a 'have-a-go hero' but we're asking people to call 999 and report bike theft as soon as they see it happening so we can catch the bike thieves in the act.
"We are constantly on the lookout for bike thieves but we also need the community to be vigilant and to call us if they see a crime happening.
"The faster you let us know the more likely we are to be able to catch the thief."
The stunt was conducted as part of Operation Relentless which is being run by the force this autumn.
Dress as a skeleton for camouflage in broad daylight is the thing for budding crims.
This is why my mountain bike is never used for runs down to the shops.
I have heard in some circumstances where women are working in a vulnerable position they are taught to shout 'fire' instead of 'rape' because the latter will just scare people away.
Now i suppose this thread is going to turn to gak when somebody tries to claim this attitude is unique to the UK and their fellow countrymen (who will no doubt be referred to as 'we') would all be heroes and shoot them with their legalised guns.
Glorioski wrote: This is why my mountain bike is never used for runs down to the shops.
I have heard in some circumstances where women are working in a vulnerable position they are taught to shout 'fire' instead of 'rape' because the latter will just scare people away.
Now i suppose this thread is going to turn to gak when somebody tries to claim this attitude is unique to the UK and their fellow countrymen (who will no doubt be referred to as 'we') would all be heroes and shoot them with their legalised guns.
Unfortunately I fear you are right. Someone will come along with some nonsense about shooting bike thieves in the street soon.
Anyway, people seem to just not think about calling the police. More often it seems they will film a theft and put it on youtube before thinking about calling the police.
I do think that other police forces would do well to encourage people to phone 999 as I think allot is just that people don't think of doing it, or think "I don't want to waste the polices time, someone else will have called them".
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insaniak wrote: Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
And sometimes, it's just a case of too much scotch combined with too many buttons...
And that is why you hear people yelling FOR THE EMPEROR rather than FOR LOGICAL AND QUANTIFIABLE BASED DECISIONS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE MAJORITY!
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A police force has filmed an officer "stealing" bicycles in full public view to show "just how easy" it is for a thief to get away unchallenged.
No, apparently the trick is to get someone to stand with a videocamera and film it.
That way, people assume it must be for a TV show or something and ignore you.
Quite possibly.
there does seem to be a prevailing attitude of 'not my problem' and that of not wanting to get involved due to time and or the threat of reprisals (if any threat existed at all).
If it is the case that having a Camera makes citizens ignore you then I'm off to jessops then I'll have a go at the crown jewels.
I think Leigen_Zero is right.. If I saw someone filming an apparent bike theft I'd assume it was something legit. If no filming was going on I'd be much more likely to report it.
Skeleton outfit... not sure on that one.
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htj wrote:You can always trust a man who quotes himself in his signature.
To be fair to the police - they don't turn up when you phone them anyway...
My car got robbed a few years ago on new years day - I'd gone out with friends in the evening. I got back to my car, saw it had been broken into...but the police couldn't do anything but give me a crime number over the phone as they'd all FINSIHED EARLY?!
I ended up stood in the police station car park, having an argument over the phone.
Someone tried to steal the car a couple of years later - I phoned the police (999 and everything) while the guy was in my car trying to start it at about 3am on a thursday (idiot thief leant on the horn...woke me up with his impressive skills)
The police turned up at about 5pm...the following wednesday.
I'm really not surprised that no one phoned them for bike theft.
Its because ordinance is still a word.
However, firing ordinance at someone isn't nearly as threatening as firing ordnance at someone.
Ordinance is a local law, or bill, or other form of legislation.
Ordnance is high caliber explosives.
No 'I' in ordnance.
Don't drown the enemy in legislation, drown them in explosives.
I've never had a problem with the police turning up. I had to call them two weeks ago due to my nabour trying to brake in to our house because of some imagined slight to do with bins. No real danger to use, but she was hammering on our door trying to brake it down. They were there within 10 minuets.
Time before that I had been the victim of an attempted mugging. They turned up the next morning no problem.
Sorry, I don't want to turn this in to a pro vs anti police thread, but I think too often people have too high expectations of the police. What are they supposed to do when your car has been broken in to other than give you a crime number? Unless there is CCTV or a witness they can't do much at all.
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insaniak wrote: Sometimes, Exterminatus is the only option.
And sometimes, it's just a case of too much scotch combined with too many buttons...
Yay lets blitz them with ammassed automatic fire from close range-with me now lads form 2 ranks aim fire Yes this will be perfectly legal[/sarcasm]
Allright thats the "well all gun them down part of the thread over with, so lets get serous now.
If i saw someone being filmed doing something like this i would assume it was a T.V. stunt and ignore it(ive got much better things to do).
However i will not back down from crime(i know i know its a slight touch of crusader attitude). If i see someone being beaten or mugged i will try to help and if i here someone calling for aid i will attempt to help. I have a sort of code of honour(archaic i know). And as for that rape thing..... Well thats frankly disgusting to think that people will not attempt to help someone being raped..... It makes me sick
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What are they supposed to do when your car has been broken in to other than give you a crime number? Unless there is CCTV or a witness they can't do much at all.
I've no idea - I never heard from them again on the matter. And yes there was cctv in the car park.
And taking 6 days to turn up when I phoned while the guy was actually sat in my car trying to steal it?
To be fair to the police though - in the past when violence has been involved (friends being assaulted on nights out etc) they've always been really quick to arrive.
But when it comes to property I think they prioritise people first - so I'm not surprised no one called about bike theft.
Did anyone see a program from a few years ago called swag?
They did things like leaving a lorry trailer door open...then when someone jumped in to see if they could steal anything, they shut and locked the door. Then pulled the cloth back on the trailer to reveal a cage with the wannabe thief inside and drove round with a loudspeaker saying "this man is a thief!"
Its because ordinance is still a word.
However, firing ordinance at someone isn't nearly as threatening as firing ordnance at someone.
Ordinance is a local law, or bill, or other form of legislation.
Ordnance is high caliber explosives.
No 'I' in ordnance.
Don't drown the enemy in legislation, drown them in explosives.
Becareful with stolen bikes. They make quite a IED. Has quite a kill zone.
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Glorioski wrote: This is why my mountain bike is never used for runs down to the shops.
I have heard in some circumstances where women are working in a vulnerable position they are taught to shout 'fire' instead of 'rape' because the latter will just scare people away.
Now i suppose this thread is going to turn to gak when somebody tries to claim this attitude is unique to the UK and their fellow countrymen (who will no doubt be referred to as 'we') would all be heroes and shoot them with their legalised guns.
Nope not at all. The Wife was taught that by cops when she worked with the PD.
Theft is easy. Thats why I want a small version of one of the San Antonio Missions as a house (think walls and towers - yes I bet it warms a Briton's heart) when I win the Lotto.
Wait people use bicycles for...transport? OMG!
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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This attitude is unique to the UK. We would all be heroes and shoot them with our legalized guns.
I've heard that the more people who witness an event, the less likely they are to react to it because the community witness puts less responsibility on the individual. People walked by a bleeding guy on the sidewalk somewhere in...was it New York? and did nothing.
CuddlySquig wrote: I've heard that the more people who witness an event, the less likely they are to react to it because the community witness puts less responsibility on the individual. People walked by a bleeding guy on the sidewalk somewhere in...was it New York? and did nothing.
That attitude is unique to NY. We'd all be heroes and give the poor chap a cup of tea.
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htj wrote:You can always trust a man who quotes himself in his signature.
Its because ordinance is still a word.
However, firing ordinance at someone isn't nearly as threatening as firing ordnance at someone.
Ordinance is a local law, or bill, or other form of legislation.
Ordnance is high caliber explosives.
No 'I' in ordnance.
Don't drown the enemy in legislation, drown them in explosives.
PredaKhaine wrote: Do you not remember the london riots where some guy was assaulted... and while he was recovering, passer's by helped themselves to all his stuff?
I was, of course, just joking.
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htj wrote:You can always trust a man who quotes himself in his signature.
Its because ordinance is still a word.
However, firing ordinance at someone isn't nearly as threatening as firing ordnance at someone.
Ordinance is a local law, or bill, or other form of legislation.
Ordnance is high caliber explosives.
No 'I' in ordnance.
Don't drown the enemy in legislation, drown them in explosives.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Its because ordinance is still a word.
However, firing ordinance at someone isn't nearly as threatening as firing ordnance at someone.
Ordinance is a local law, or bill, or other form of legislation.
Ordnance is high caliber explosives.
No 'I' in ordnance.
Don't drown the enemy in legislation, drown them in explosives.
A police force has filmed an officer "stealing" bicycles in full public view to show "just how easy" it is for a thief to get away unchallenged.
No, apparently the trick is to get someone to stand with a videocamera and film it.
That way, people assume it must be for a TV show or something and ignore you.
Not necessarily.
I've seen the same type of thing here in the States. They hide the camera in a van across the street or a hidden camera in a nearby shop. The people don't know they're being filmed.
People are apathetic to this sort of thing. Besides, if there's a 6'2, 300lb man stealing a bike, what are you going to do about it, besides call the police? I'm not getting beat the hell up for someone's bike, but I would make a call. I hope, anyway.
I've snagged the license plate # off of two different hit-and-run jack-holes since I moved here to Houston.
I've heard that the more people who witness an event, the less likely they are to react to it because the community witness puts less responsibility on the individual. People walked by a bleeding guy on the sidewalk somewhere in...was it New York? and did nothing.
Diffused responsibility or something like that. I've heard that term before, too. It's not unique to the UK.
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A police force has filmed an officer "stealing" bicycles in full public view to show "just how easy" it is for a thief to get away unchallenged.
No, apparently the trick is to get someone to stand with a videocamera and film it.
That way, people assume it must be for a TV show or something and ignore you.
Not necessarily.
I've seen the same type of thing here in the States. They hide the camera in a van across the street or a hidden camera in a nearby shop. The people don't know they're being filmed.
People are apathetic to this sort of thing. Besides, if there's a 6'2, 300lb man stealing a bike, what are you going to do about it, besides call the police? I'm not getting beat the hell up for someone's bike, but I would make a call. I hope, anyway.
I've snagged the license plate # off of two different hit-and-run jack-holes since I moved here to Houston.
I've heard that the more people who witness an event, the less likely they are to react to it because the community witness puts less responsibility on the individual. People walked by a bleeding guy on the sidewalk somewhere in...was it New York? and did nothing.
Diffused responsibility or something like that. I've heard that term before, too. It's not unique to the UK.
Indeed, I'll note licensed concealed handgunners are very aware they do not have the legal authority to actually intercede - only be a good weakness and call the fuzz.
The Wife is not going to open in the middle of the street with a MAC10 screaming "WHATS THE FREQUENCY KENNETH!!!" just because you're stealing a Shwinn. *
*Frazzled family tradition instead dictates she must run over you in the van. I know its strange, but its our way.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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