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 scarletsquig wrote:


Looks like they have rotatable action-figure style wrists as well.

The cut in the wrist is because the choice of weapon. Note in the individual image of the troll in question he is holding a log instead the spear he is holding in the group image.

Cheers.

Also does anyone know if GW and DE AGOSTINI PUBLISHING are doing another Battle Game in Middle Earth series for the Hobbit? I acquired some of the old LOTR one's recently and cost wise they worked out a very good way of acquiring cheep models.

AFAIK GW is still shocked by the success of the old DeAgostini mags and will never work again with them.

 Kroothawk wrote:
AFAIK GW is still shocked by the success of the old DeAgostini mags and will never work again with them.

Wait, what?
Meaning they want a larger slice of the pie?

 Kroothawk wrote:
AFAIK GW is still shocked by the success of the old DeAgostini mags and will never work again with them.

Ha, So it was so successful they don't want to do it.

Shame as I would have signed up to that in an instant.

What's that got to do with anything? What Newline and GW agree to has no bearing on what Mr. Jonny Advance Copy does with his iPhone camera.

Meaning the chance of a leak may be reduced. I may be wrong, but if memory serves, I'm sure it was you that mentioned this in the first place i.e new line clamping down on GW. Apologies if you're not that person.

I'm probably in a minority of one, but I like the models.

If you've got a problem with that, PM me and we'll arrange an arm wrestle to sort it out

I'm not a huge fan of the GW LoTR tabletop games, but I'm glad we got to see some previews at least. Trolls look ok to me, what bugs me is the Goblin King. I kind of really hate what they did with him in the movie. Guess I'm still really used to the old goblin king from the Rankin Bass animated movie....

I don't mind the goblins though I was expecting something more like the moria goblins, though less armoured
these look like ghouls crossed with plague monks

I'm a fan of moat of the new.models. The faces arent melted.wrecks like a lot of the old LotR sculpts. The trolls arent.bad.except.for a.few.spots that are so.bad i wonder.if it's just a bad photo.

 Lansirill wrote:
I'm a fan of moat of the new.models. The faces arent melted.wrecks like a lot of the old LotR sculpts. The trolls arent.bad.except.for a.few.spots that are so.bad i wonder.if it's just a bad photo.

What's with all the full stops? I read that post like William Shatner...

Mmmm well that's certainly interesting...

The trolls look ok, but if they want the equivalent of $100 from me for those three then they can go figure.
I actually really like the hunter orcs, both foot and mounted, although did anyone else think of skyrim elves as soon as they saw those pictures? What's with the pointed ears?
Most of the sculpts are nice, I Hate the Elrond one though, and saruman looks really stupid.

But this is interesting...

 filbert wrote:

 Lansirill wrote:
I'm a fan of moat of the new.models. The faces arent melted.wrecks like a lot of the old LotR sculpts. The trolls arent.bad.except.for a.few.spots that are so.bad i wonder.if it's just a bad photo.

What's with all the full stops? I read that post like William Shatner...

I'm on my phone and I have a seem to like to smack the period key insyead of the space bar. Really need to find a.custom keyboard app or somesuch.

As a collector of Moria, I'm disappointed. This is mainly due to the fact I was hoping to expand my force on the cheap and those Goblins won't work with what I've got.

Maybe it's just the fact that those Goblins aren't green. In my opinion goblins should always be green, Trolls are blue and Uruk Hai are redish-brown.

those goblins probably won't be cheap at all, which is another reason I won't buy them

Models seem ok, goblins and council are great, but the king is completely different from how i had pictured him based on the book.

 scarletsquig wrote:
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(Trolls)
These are flat-out the worst miniatures that GW has ever produced.
Seriously. They look like bad action figures.
The arms are out of proportion (upper arm larger than lower arm), and look like they've been sculpted by squidging green stuff around a piece of wire and bending it in half.
There isn't even a slight hint of correct musculature or anatomy on the models, the legs are even worse than the minotaur legs.
Looks like they have rotatable action-figure style wrists as well.

Withholding judgement until I see what the film ones look like. If the minis are accurate to the film, then blame WETA, not GW.

/logic

 Rainbow Dash wrote:
those goblins probably won't be cheap at all, which is another reason I won't buy them

Not all that bad really, Imagine if your kid would want their Hobbit goddies from Lego, instead of GW. Than you'd be well and truly screwed


Games Workshop's Escape from Goblin Town starter set. Will presumably sell for GBP 80,- in the limited edition version. Contains 56 miniatures
Lego's Battle of the Goblin King set. Sells for GBP 79,99 SRP in the regular version. Contains 7 miniatures (and 10... yes 10!!! weapons).

Flashman wrote:Let me be the first to say meh

Agreed, I can't see a single model I like. But, as Scipio said...

scipio.au wrote:

 scarletsquig wrote:
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(Trolls)
These are flat-out the worst miniatures that GW has ever produced.
Seriously. They look like bad action figures.
The arms are out of proportion (upper arm larger than lower arm), and look like they've been sculpted by squidging green stuff around a piece of wire and bending it in half.
There isn't even a slight hint of correct musculature or anatomy on the models, the legs are even worse than the minotaur legs.
Looks like they have rotatable action-figure style wrists as well.

Withholding judgement until I see what the film ones look like. If the minis are accurate to the film, then blame WETA, not GW.

/logic

A few tidbits:
1.) The starter box includes wooden walkways and the throne as terrain.
2.) The fellowship plastic models from the previous starter box are rereleased in a separate box.
3.) The Ork hero is indeed Narzug.
4.) The Goblin captain looks similar to the other goblins. Could be the one in the middle, pointing (not sure):

5.) Here a pic of the unmounted Fimbul the Hunter:

6.) Here a scan showing the new box design, taken from here http://latabernadelaurana.blogspot.de/ :

I like how the goblin king's crown is a crude imitation of the helm of Sauron.

Not just his crown, MGS.

The "mace" he's carrying even looks like Sauron's beatstick o' doom.

wonder how much these goblins will be...

I like the white council, some of the character figures are good. I really don't like much else on offer. The trolls especially, even the camp fire thing looks a bit cheap and nasty looking as the sculpt on the flames.

I'm a bit co cerned that it's not so much that GW has made horrible figures, but that I'll hate the aesthetic of the film...

Also I refuse to touch Finecast so will only be getting the council if someone does some metal casts.

Not sure about any of these but I will reserve any snap judgements until I see the film. It looks to me like WETA have designed most of the trolls goblins and such so that they are distinct from those in the LOTR trilogy which makes sense for clearly identifying their IP. From the few photos I've seen in the early release books that goblins do look like that in the movies. They look 'deformed' which is broadly in keeping with the descriptions in the book. Last time round GW were quite accurate with their sculpts and I assume that each of these had to be signed off by WETA for approval.

Is it me or do those wargs have very similar poses to the Fenrisian Wolves? I wonder which came first because from those pics I prefer the fenrisians but then it seems WD has given up on quality paint jobs.

 Flashman wrote:
Let me be the first to say meh

But certainly not the last.

Omg what a bunch of fugly gack... and for those prices too

I am now suddenly quite worried about the movies if the trolls and goblins really look like that. Not to mention that the official trailer already seems to show us the exact fate of this goblin king (unless he has a twin brother):

 TBD wrote:
Not to mention that the official trailer already seems to show us the exact fate of this goblin king (unless he has a twin brother):

Spoiler:

you see the severed torso of a fat blob of a creature fall on the dwarves who are trapped under some plank-rubble, and the dwarves go "you've got to be kidding me!". By the looks of it that is the goblin king.

What's the problem? We know the Goblin King dies, Gandalf slays him in the book. Hell, I could spoil the ending for you if you want.

 Eiríkr wrote:

 TBD wrote:
Not to mention that the official trailer already seems to show us the exact fate of this goblin king (unless he has a twin brother):

Spoiler:

you see the severed torso of a fat blob of a creature fall on the dwarves who are trapped under some plank-rubble, and the dwarves go "you've got to be kidding me!". By the looks of it that is the goblin king.

What's the problem? We know the Goblin King dies, Gandalf slays him in the book. Hell, I could spoil the ending for you if you want.

Yes I know that, but why show something like that in the trailer

Now everybody who saw the trailer (including the masses who never even read the book) knows exactly how he ends up as soon as his ugly face is first introduced.

40K Davinite lodge priest?

 Kroothawk wrote:
A few tidbits:
5.) Here a pic of the unmounted Fimbul the Hunter:

I think the goblins are very reminiscent of the alien bad guys from PJs first movie, Bad Taste.
I'm actually more interested in the Hobbit since seeing this stuff.

On a side note, has anyone noticed that on the GW website, at the very bottom on the page, it says The Hobbit instead of The Lord of the Rings?