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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/11 23:11:52
Subject: Orcs good at shooting WUT?
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Hey Dakka, just recently thought of this, but if sniping allows you to allocate a "to hit" roll of 6 on any model in the unit you're shooting and orks have a BS of 2 and therefore rely on 5's and 6's to hit, doesn't that mean that they get to allocate 50% of their hits while SM only gets to allocate 25%... Seems ridiculous to me but maybe their poorly made bullets curve or something?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/11 23:16:34
Subject: Orcs good at shooting WUT?
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Only actual snipers can allocate hits like that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/11 23:18:33
Subject: Orcs good at shooting WUT?
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Nigel Stillman
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Or characters
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/11 23:21:10
Subject: Orcs good at shooting WUT?
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Dakka Veteran
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Oh thank god, but what about nobs then
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/11 23:21:14
Subject: Orcs good at shooting WUT?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Lol. That is prettu funny. Ghazkull gets to allocate 1/2 his hits whereas a SM Captain only gets to allocate 1/5..Same number of allocations from equal shots over a game but still...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/11 23:23:36
Subject: Orcs good at shooting WUT?
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Nigel Stillman
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Not independent characters, so they can't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/11 23:34:17
Subject: Orcs good at shooting WUT?
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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However They are Characters, unless in a Nob Squad IIRC so Boyz squad nobz can
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/11 23:38:41
Subject: Re:Orcs good at shooting WUT?
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Numberless Necron Warrior
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A model needs to be a character to get precision shots. Independent Character is a special rule and is completely different (except that all Independent Characters e characters and have precision shots). Nobs leading units are characters, but units of nobs are not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/11 23:47:50
Subject: Orcs good at shooting WUT?
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Big Fat Gospel of Menoth
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Barrywise wrote:Hey Dakka, just recently thought of this, but if sniping allows you to allocate a "to hit" roll of 6 on any model in the unit you're shooting and orks have a BS of 2 and therefore rely on 5's and 6's to hit, doesn't that mean that they get to allocate 50% of their hits while SM only gets to allocate 25%... Seems ridiculous to me but maybe their poorly made bullets curve or something?
Given that the exact same odds are in place to begin with (1/6) you've skewed odds and statistics by taking half of the equation. Space marines will still hit twice as often. And as others pointed out, only certain shots can be allocated.
What is good about ork shooting and has been for some time is the number of shots they put down range despite terrible BS for a low cost. So yes orks are good at shooting, but not because of what you believe.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/11 23:50:59
Subject: Orcs good at shooting WUT?
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Nigel Stillman
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BlackSanguinor wrote:A model needs to be a character to get precision shots. Independent Character is a special rule and is completely different (except that all Independent Characters e characters and have precision shots). Nobs leading units are characters, but units of nobs are not. The devil you say!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/12 00:01:15
Subject: Orcs good at shooting WUT?
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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Nobs will be able to snipe from their Boyz squads, but if you're in range to shoot that you'll probably be charging anyway, which is much more damaging than a BS2 strength 4 pistol shot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/11/12 03:45:16
Subject: Orcs good at shooting WUT?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Unless you give them big shootas.
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