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 Testify wrote:

Depends. If it's a conventional veggie burger, feth all. But some (thinking Linda McCartney) are packed full of protein. As a vegetarian who works out, the protein content of vegetarian food is something of a speciality for me.

That would be a reason for me not to try it, then. I know feth all about veggie burgers, and couldn't tell the difference between high protein and not.

I have also not met a self-righteous vegan, but know 4 personally. It's usually the other way around.

 kronk wrote:

 Testify wrote:

Depends. If it's a conventional veggie burger, feth all. But some (thinking Linda McCartney) are packed full of protein. As a vegetarian who works out, the protein content of vegetarian food is something of a speciality for me.

That would be a reason for me not to try it, then. I know feth all about veggie burgers, and couldn't tell the difference between high protein and not.

I have also not met a self-righteous vegan, but know 4 personally. It's usually the other way around.

Well to be honest if you're looking to pack in protein, relying on a good composition in your Veggie burger is going to be a crap shoot at best. Now, a heaping helping of something like Beans & Rice is going to be chock full of protein. It's also got an ass ton of starch and fiber, which is good for keep your blood sugar & energy levels stable which is good if you're going to be doing a lot of phsyical activity. Dirt Cheap, and easy to make in bulk too.

EDIT: Still you can just read the back of package for the item in question. It'll list the amount of protein per serving.

 Chongara wrote:
Still you can just read the back of package for the item in question. It'll list the amount of protein per serving.

Certainly. I recommend everyone read the back of all of their packaged food. So much sodium these days...

As to the context of my posts, the OP was talking about getting this at a cafeteria, which don't usually provide that kind of information. That said, I'll usually try anything once.

 kronk wrote:

 Testify wrote:

Depends. If it's a conventional veggie burger, feth all. But some (thinking Linda McCartney) are packed full of protein. As a vegetarian who works out, the protein content of vegetarian food is something of a speciality for me.

That would be a reason for me not to try it, then. I know feth all about veggie burgers, and couldn't tell the difference between high protein and not.

I have also not met a self-righteous vegan, but know 4 personally. It's usually the other way around.

I don't usually have burgers but sausages are a staple food of mine.

Each one is 100 calories and 10g of protein (mainly soy).

I really liked the spicy bean burger from burger king, and im a rare steak man.

If its tasty i will have it, not fussy, lifes serving dish is vast

Tried vegan for a bit for a "30 day challenge" - I lasted through it.

Ended up gaining a bit of extra body fat % and noticable strength loss in some of my heavier lifts. I like the idea and the disipline it instills, but I simply enjoy eating meat. It's easier for me to pound down chicken breasts and meat then blow $ on food. The loss of fish was too much as well. Mad props to people that upkeep the vegan lifestyle.

I just enjoy meat too much

 Auxellion wrote:
Tried vegan for a bit for a "30 day challenge" - I lasted through it.

Ended up gaining a bit of extra body fat % and noticable strength loss in some of my heavier lifts. I like the idea and the disipline it instills, but I simply enjoy eating meat. It's easier for me to pound down chicken breasts and meat then blow $ on food. The loss of fish was too much as well. Mad props to people that upkeep the vegan lifestyle.

I just enjoy meat too much

How do vegans get protein? You must have to eat a fething lot of beans and peanuts. Like, a lot.

I find it hard enough as a vegetarian so i'm usually lazy and just have whey protein (which vegans can't have). Though I did try some hemp protein at my old work, it's high in fibre but it tastes fething *awful*.

 Testify wrote:

 Auxellion wrote:
Tried vegan for a bit for a "30 day challenge" - I lasted through it.

Ended up gaining a bit of extra body fat % and noticable strength loss in some of my heavier lifts. I like the idea and the disipline it instills, but I simply enjoy eating meat. It's easier for me to pound down chicken breasts and meat then blow $ on food. The loss of fish was too much as well. Mad props to people that upkeep the vegan lifestyle.

I just enjoy meat too much

How do vegans get protein? You must have to eat a fething lot of beans and peanuts. Like, a lot.

I find it hard enough as a vegetarian so i'm usually lazy and just have whey protein (which vegans can't have). Though I did try some hemp protein at my old work, it's high in fibre but it tastes fething *awful*.

Almost as if you're sitting there chewing on twine?

I don;t try the Veggie option much because a lot of it is made usign Mushrooms as a major component to replace the beef. I can't stand the taste and texture of mushrooms. Therefore, it limits my meet replacement vegetarian options.

I feel I do try the veggie option, everyday.

Along with my meat, (fish, chicken, pork etc) I'll heap a gak ton of veg on my plate too. Roast potatoes are a special treat.

I have heard it called a 'balanced diet'.

 Mr. Burning wrote:
I feel I do try the veggie option, everyday.

Along with my meat, (fish, chicken, pork etc) I'll heap a gak ton of veg on my plate too. Roast potatoes are a special treat.

I have heard it called a 'balanced diet'.

Indeed. I find it hilarious when I glance around the cafeteria and see all the vegetarians with fried cheese & tartar on their plates thinking how much healthier they are eating compared to my steak, salad, and steamed mixed veggies.


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And to add something relevant: For the past month and a half I've been following the "paleo" diet, which is sort of the reverse of vegetarianism.

The main deal is cutting all starch (bread, pasta, rice, potatoes, corn) and dairy. My meals are meat + colored veggies and fruit. I've lost 8 kg so far - and two belt holes - with no muscle loss and my chronic inflammations and allergies are going down for the first time in years. Die in a fire, starch.

 timetowaste85 wrote:

 Chongara wrote:
I'd stab my own mother for just about anything made with ground chickpeas.

O.o Priorities man...most of us would choose a nice, bloody steak after offering up a motherly sacrifice. Chickpeas? Wha? Unless we're discussing garlic-lovers hummus. That stuff is the tits on pita bread.

If it didn't cry when it died I don't want to eat it. Meat is murder.....tasty tasty murder

Speaking of I think I need to call my mom up....

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
This is not a post about how vegetarian is better, just read it.
I just got done eating a delicious vegetarian burger. Now, I love meat, but I decided to try the veggie burger from the cafeteria.
I like vegetarian food. This got me wondering. Why dont people try it more often? Why do people shrug of vegetarian food for meat?
I think its because the word "vegetarian" ha gotten synonymous with "Obnoxious fools" and that those options are only there for them.
Anyone else got any ideas?

As I need to keep both my blood sugar and cholesterol within tight bounds, carb-rich fruit/vegetables/bread/beans and cholesterol-rich dairy can only be consumed in very limited quantity. Lean meat (with garlic, onions, lemon pepper, crushed red pepper and a small amount of chili powder), however, is free game

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
This is not a post about how vegetarian is better, just read it.
I just got done eating a delicious vegetarian burger. Now, I love meat, but I decided to try the veggie burger from the cafeteria.
I like vegetarian food. This got me wondering. Why dont people try it more often? Why do people shrug of vegetarian food for meat?
I think its because the word "vegetarian" ha gotten synonymous with "Obnoxious fools" and that those options are only there for them.
Anyone else got any ideas?

After the 10th or so vegetarian version of a meat dish, I decided that I didn't want to press my luck on what is essentially faked food since the only meat that I found to be close was Bocca Nuggets, which do taste and have the texture of chicken nuggets.

I love vegetarian dishes that aren't trying to be a non-meat version of a meat dish, it's the trying too hard ones that drive away meat eaters. A salad doesn't have to be labelled 'vegetarian' on a menu because it isn't a fake version of something else.

 snooggums wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
This is not a post about how vegetarian is better, just read it.
I just got done eating a delicious vegetarian burger. Now, I love meat, but I decided to try the veggie burger from the cafeteria.
I like vegetarian food. This got me wondering. Why dont people try it more often? Why do people shrug of vegetarian food for meat?
I think its because the word "vegetarian" ha gotten synonymous with "Obnoxious fools" and that those options are only there for them.
Anyone else got any ideas?

After the 10th or so vegetarian version of a meat dish, I decided that I didn't want to press my luck on what is essentially faked food since the only meat that I found to be close was Bocca Nuggets, which do taste and have the texture of chicken nuggets.

I love vegetarian dishes that aren't trying to be a non-meat version of a meat dish, it's the trying too hard ones that drive away meat eaters. A salad doesn't have to be labelled 'vegetarian' on a menu because it isn't a fake version of something else.

If you're praising boca nuggets or really any sort nugget in general, in the same statement you're decrying "Faked Food" I'm not sure how seriously I can take you.

I'm saying it is the only one close to the actual meat counterpart that it is supposed to replicate, where does the praise come in?

I will always prefer tofu dogs to normal hot dogs

 snooggums wrote:
I'm saying it is the only one close to the actual meat counterpart that it is supposed to replicate, where does the praise come in?

Nuggets in no way qualify as "Actual Meat" any more than "American Cheese" is actual cheese. I mean they're a product, a product that contains some nonzero amount of meat.. they exist, phsyically but that doesn't make them real by any stretch of the imagination.

Went out to dinner last night with my vegetarian sister, and she got a salad and a veggie burger. She says veggie burgers vary widely in quality; that boca are crap, morningstar are good, garden burger okay. I could swear she mentioned another brand as being excellent, but I am now totally blanking on the name.

 Rainbow Dash wrote:
I will always prefer tofu dogs to normal hot dogs

you..... Monster!

Honestly? I've tried vegetarian food. I like veggi burgers and tofu "meat". But there is one problem. Its not about the taste. Its about a feeling which rises up every time I bite. It feels WRONG, like betraying a old friend. This my friend is, why I stick with fish and meat , though I rather prefer fish.

I am a line cook i eat a stable diet don't eat to much of this or that when i want a salad my body lets me know if i want a little bit of red meat on the side i eat it. stick to a regular balance and dont eat fast food you will be fine. alternatives like falafal and peas and beans are awesome a giant refried bean or black bean burrito with some cheese or not is still awesome

 Bromsy wrote:

 Rainbow Dash wrote:
I will always prefer tofu dogs to normal hot dogs

you..... Monster!

It's not like regular hot dogs are exactly chock-full of meat, either. =P Unless you find some decent ones, most of them are water, salt, and mechanically recovered lord-knows-what.

Nathans 100% all beef hot dogs are where it's at. Still CHOCK full of sodium though :(

I have 0 problems with vegetarian dishes with two exceptions:

1. Anything pretending to be meat. Veggies, however delicious, will not have the taste and texture of meat. Stop trying.
2. Soy. The soy lobby in the US is ridiculous, to the point where people here consume far more soy than is actually healthy. Especially for women, excessive soy can strip the body of other vitamins and proteins. I also can't stand the texture of tofu. Bleh.

As to veggies in general, I heavily suggest if you have even the smallest amount of space that you try growing your own. I did a tomato garden this year for the first time. The store bought red ones are crap. Horrible, grainy, disgusting crap. All you need is the space for a single decent sized pot on a porch and you can know what a tomoato is really supposed to taste like.

I grew several varities of heirloom (Yellow Brandywine, Mr Stripey, Yellow Jubilee, Green Zebra [that I did not get to enjoy because the deer decimated my plants] and yellow pear. Delicious stuff.

Two reasons that I do not try more vegetarian options.

1) I have had chickenless nuggets and they were terrible.

2) Not eating meat is a choice, Eating meat is an instinct.


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I don't mind vegetarian dishes, as long as I can add some meat to them.

We made a big batch of falefel the other night; two boxes + extra cilantro. We homemade the yogurt sauce too, with tahini and lemon and some fresh chopped thai chilis for extra zip. Had them on some nice fresh wraps. Pretty darn tasty.

Got another box of mix tonight at the store, although I think we'll try making it fresh at some point too.

I would never give up my meat eating diet, but there is plenty of good vegetarian foods out there that I will eat. A good meat dish>a good vegetarian dish>an ok meat dish>an ok vegetarian dish.