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So I've been looking around to see what people think of the Storm Talon in 6th ed now that it's an actual flier; in 5th it was basically a glorified land speeder, so wasn't amazing, though I can't seem to find anything.

So DakkaDakka, what do we think, is the Stormtalon any good in 6th ed?

Personally, I want it to be, but the without being able to switch the AssCans for something with similar range to the typhoon or skyhammer, it feels like it can't really take advantage of either.

Its great, the way it blows up hitting all the passengers and the dreadnought with a str10 hit they cant save against that also hits the rear armour of the dreadnought for an autopen!

I love killing 400+ points with a single shot.

hobojebus wrote:
Its great, the way it blows up hitting all the passengers and the dreadnought with a str10 hit they cant save against that also hits the rear armour of the dreadnought for an autopen!

I love killing 400+ points with a single shot.

That would be a Stormraven, then.

Well, it's a very cheap, mobile and hard to kill model that with it's assault cannon and lascannon, can handle any targets.

I use them as above for an anti tank and elite infantry role. Point for point, three of them do more damage than my two tactical squads with lasbacks and lascannon...

hobojebus wrote:
Its great, the way it blows up hitting all the passengers and the dreadnought with a str10 hit they cant save against that also hits the rear armour of the dreadnought for an autopen!

I love killing 400+ points with a single shot.

Citation needed for the underlined.

P. 37, BA codex, states it takes a rear armor hit if the vehicle explodes for embarked dreadnoughts.

Well mine is still on sprues in its box as I've not had time to put it together yet. I'm hopeful it will be a success. It has good weaponry and is not particularly expensive.

Fingers crossed and all that jazz

 juraigamer wrote:
P. 37, BA codex, states it takes a rear armor hit if the vehicle explodes for embarked dreadnoughts.

That same page also says it's a S4 hit, just saying.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

 juraigamer wrote:
P. 37, BA codex, states it takes a rear armor hit if the vehicle explodes for embarked dreadnoughts.

That same page also says it's a S4 hit, just saying.

which it still does if it is in hover mode. But if it is acting as a flier then it gets a str 10 hit.

 IcedAnimals wrote:

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

 juraigamer wrote:
P. 37, BA codex, states it takes a rear armor hit if the vehicle explodes for embarked dreadnoughts.

That same page also says it's a S4 hit, just saying.

which it still does if it is in hover mode. But if it is acting as a flier then it gets a str 10 hit.

But what facing is hit?

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

 IcedAnimals wrote:

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

 juraigamer wrote:
P. 37, BA codex, states it takes a rear armor hit if the vehicle explodes for embarked dreadnoughts.

That same page also says it's a S4 hit, just saying.

which it still does if it is in hover mode. But if it is acting as a flier then it gets a str 10 hit.

But what facing is hit?

The answer is...there is no answer

Dies in hover mode = S4 hit on rear
Dies in flier mode = S10 hit....doesn't say where

You could take the BA codex and hover mode as a precedence, or try to argue something else, but no argument is going to be correct because the transport rules are fairly vague and don't cover transported vehicles.

So am I to take it from the above conversation that the Stormtalon might be worth it in 6th.... kewl....


Turns out I may have to buy one or three after all...

I've not played with a Stormtalon, but I've played against them.
I must say they are very irritating to face.
I have Marine playing friends who swear by them.

I like using my one stormtalon, its a good source of anti air and its very mobile

I feel its a little on the pricy side though, especially if your opponent has anti air or fliers to shoot it with.

I just like watching people trying to roll to hit and fail. also I had a very good experience against necrons, where it was pretty much an anti scarab beast

 juraigamer wrote:
P. 37, BA codex, states it takes a rear armor hit if the vehicle explodes for embarked dreadnoughts.

Are you referring to the Storm Raven? OP was asking about the storm talon which BA can't take.

No no, I don't like quoting.

I was referring to the post before the one you are referencing.

So I am going to be using a couple of these bad boys in my army. How do I equip them? Thoughts and suggestions please.

I've had a stormtalon in my army for a few months now and I've had good success with it vs. the heldrakes I frequently see. it's been a bit hit or miss vs. ground targets, but I run it primarily for air superiority anyway. I just finished painting up a second one

I've faced them several times and they've never killed more than three models before I shoot it down, my rune priest with living lightning single handedly takes them down with ease.

Can't field em as SW but to be frank I would not want to I think they are as worthless as speeders.

Gotta love thread necro

I run two at 1500 points with white scars bikes and I love them. Great for anti-air and bs5 on ground targets using straffing run. Super cheap using the assault cannon and sky hammer missile launcher setup.

 juraigamer wrote:
P. 37, BA codex, states it takes a rear armor hit if the vehicle explodes for embarked dreadnoughts.

Thank god my Stormraven is an Ultramarine flyer and is not subjected to this rule.

 Carnage43 wrote:

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

 IcedAnimals wrote:

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:

 juraigamer wrote:
P. 37, BA codex, states it takes a rear armor hit if the vehicle explodes for embarked dreadnoughts.

That same page also says it's a S4 hit, just saying.

which it still does if it is in hover mode. But if it is acting as a flier then it gets a str 10 hit.

But what facing is hit?

The answer is...there is no answer

Dies in hover mode = S4 hit on rear
Dies in flier mode = S10 hit....doesn't say where

You could take the BA codex and hover mode as a precedence, or try to argue something else, but no argument is going to be correct because the transport rules are fairly vague and don't cover transported vehicles.

its in The FAQ. and Death from the skies.

If it looks good, buy it, that's my motto.

But when i played one it did cause damage to my team but i got it down with something quite quickly as i remember.

This thread was two years old before it was brought back.

If you have questions, please create a new thread.

Thank you.