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A bit of news pulled off the KS comments from Adam

@K. Davis, I have very mixed feelings about discount retailers and have no plans of working with any vendors that practice deep discounts. It hurts too many links in the chain and ultimately is contributing factor towards why game artists ( in the board / hobby niche ) are so grossly underpaid. I am not in any way discrediting the retailer of your choice and I understand the need of being fiscally responsible. Just wanted to let you know that the game / range may never go into major distribution in the same capacity most "big" games do. I apologize for the inconvenience.

NOTE: it sounds like he won't be putting the game into distribution such a way as to allow (much) 'online discounting', so if you're interested this MAY be the best time to get it

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
A bit of news pulled off the KS comments from Adam

@K. Davis, I have very mixed feelings about discount retailers and have no plans of working with any vendors that practice deep discounts. It hurts too many links in the chain and ultimately is contributing factor towards why game artists ( in the board / hobby niche ) are so grossly underpaid. I am not in any way discrediting the retailer of your choice and I understand the need of being fiscally responsible. Just wanted to let you know that the game / range may never go into major distribution in the same capacity most "big" games do. I apologize for the inconvenience.

NOTE: it sounds like he won't be putting the game into distribution such a way as to allow (much) 'online discounting', so if you're interested this MAY be the best time to get it

Definitely increases the value on the Kickstarter.

I have always been a huge fan of the pinups line from KD so \ the Fur pinup really piqued my interest. It's a pile of money for a game KS, but if you release more optional pinup version you're going to teleport the $ from my wallet.

It would be awesome if we could get some of the artwork as posters or prints. I know I'd put up a little extra for a 36"x24" of Beyond the Wall to go in my game room... Or even a t-shirt of it.

 endtransmission wrote:

Don't forget that it is also going to have 20% (or whatever rate it is at the time) vat and a local posal handling fee on top of that when it gets sent to anywhere outside of the US. For my current bid, that's an extra £40 that I need to pay out... Why do I always forget this when backing things?

Local postal handling fees appear to be something that varies from country to country. We don't have one here in Australia, though we do have quite high postal charges/prices when compared to the UK...

Same deal with VAT. Import taxes etc will vary by destination country.

Just hit the $350,000 mark, the lioness plus the lion armour kit upgrade are in.

Great job all, can't wait to see the lioness. Just saw the Dragon King, unbelivable, great design and I find it amazing his 8" tall, thats not far off a Forge World Titan (and no where near the cost)!
The Dragon King armour looks cool aswell, love the female version, the only thing I would personally alter about it, is that I would paint the bare skin area of the chest to resemble thick hide/leather
instead of exposed skin, but thats just me.

Oh well on to the next stretch goal, I'm sure it will be great.

 RiTides wrote:
But if he lets people add armor sets as add-ons, they'll need to figure out what to include anyway. And they'll already be doing this for optional pin-ups, resins, etc.

I'm talking about Survivor bonuses, not the box contents, btw.

I'd like to see the box contents properly illustrated at some stage soon in photos on the page. I've got a BF survivor right now, but I'm going to need to see what exactly I'm buying before I let it go through the checkout...

I'm with you. Make some posters or even just bigger prints of those pinups. That artist rocks!

Okay, so I apologize in advance, but I am extremely interested in backing this, but I've never really looked into kickstarters, so I'm extremely confused as to how it works.

Are some bonuses automatically added for backers while others are extra money? Apologies in advance if this information is right in front of my nose, I'm tired and often have difficulty understanding simple things when tired (I blame school).

 The Fragile Breath wrote:
Are some bonuses automatically added for backers while others are extra money? Apologies in advance if this information is right in front of my nose, I'm tired and often have difficulty understanding simple things when tired (I blame school).

Yes. Some bonuses are automatically added to the boxed game, some are added to the Survivor level and up, and some are add-ons only. It should say in the description under updates on the kickstarter page if you have to add money for it, or if it's automatically included in a level.
*edited for grammar

 Sinful Hero wrote:
It would be awesome if we could get some of the artwork as posters or prints. I know I'd put up a little extra for a 36"x24" of Beyond the Wall to go in my game room... Or even a t-shirt of it.

I'd definitely agree, maybe not as big. I guess the collectors editions come with postcards which are pretty cool, but it'd be nice to get the cards on their own or a bigger print.

 The Fragile Breath wrote:
Okay, so I apologize in advance, but I am extremely interested in backing this, but I've never really looked into kickstarters, so I'm extremely confused as to how it works.

Are some bonuses automatically added for backers while others are extra money? Apologies in advance if this information is right in front of my nose, I'm tired and often have difficulty understanding simple things when tired (I blame school).

First off remember you don't actually get your CC charged untill the END of the KS (early January) so you can pledge now and save for it in december (+ Xmas money)

Miniatures included in the base game ($100) & upgrades due to the KS so far (It's unlikely much will be added to this now):

4 Starting Survivor miniatures,
4 Armor Kits: rawhide, lion, leather, phoenix. Each kit is two female and two male models with interchangeable parts so 16 minis total.
7 Monsters - Lion, Phoenix, Antelope, Butcher, Kingsmen, Kings Hand, Watcher
Unarmored armor kit two male, 2 female
All new Lantern armor kits, two male and two female
All new Fur armour kits, two male & two female
2 new weapons (made from lion parts)

Upgrades to Survivor ($155 +) eligible game boxes:
extra Rawhide armor kits, two female two male
+ 1 Plastic Phoenix
+ 1 Plastic Watcher
extra Phoenix armor kits, two female two male
+ 5 Kingsmen, five models
+1 Paul the Survivor Model
extra Lion armour kits, 2 male, 2 female

Game Expansions (must increase pledge by the amount below to get these)

The Flower Knights Game Expansion ($15)
Dragon King Expansion ($30)

Optional minis (must increase your pledge by the amount below to get these)

Rawhide Dame, plastic ($15)
Rawhide Dame, collectors edition resin ($25)
Phoenix collectors edition resin ($150)
Beyond the Wall, plastic ($15)
Beyond the Wall, resin ($27)
Watcher, plastic ($15)
Watcher, resin ($35)
Phoenix Dancer, plastic ($15)
Phoenix Dancer, resin ($25)
Kingsmen Regiment x5 minis ($20)
Kingsmen Regiment x25 minis ($50)
The Flower Knight Resin ($29)
Paul the Survior Resin ($25)
Lioness Dame, plastic ($15)
Lioness Dame, resin ($25)

If you want the most free stuff the Survivor ($155) level is best, although stuff has been added to the basic game ($100) too.

If you are NOT an experienced mini painter don't buy the resins they are fragile & fiddly and won't be worth the money for you (you get a couple of resins free at the $155 level, but don't add more)

If you are keen on the idea of the game the expansions (flower knight & dragon) are half what Adam plans to sell them for, so grab them now, funds permitting

You don't have to buy eveything (tempting though it is!)

And remember delivery is planned for Nov 2013 (and may well slip based on all the KS I''ve backed)

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
A bit of news pulled off the KS comments from Adam

@K. Davis, I have very mixed feelings about discount retailers and have no plans of working with any vendors that practice deep discounts. It hurts too many links in the chain and ultimately is contributing factor towards why game artists ( in the board / hobby niche ) are so grossly underpaid. I am not in any way discrediting the retailer of your choice and I understand the need of being fiscally responsible. Just wanted to let you know that the game / range may never go into major distribution in the same capacity most "big" games do. I apologize for the inconvenience.

NOTE: it sounds like he won't be putting the game into distribution such a way as to allow (much) 'online discounting', so if you're interested this MAY be the best time to get it

interesting.

One of those things I can agree and disagree with.

Either way, I hope it is best for him and does not hurt him.

This has been reposted many times, I feel I should amend the comment into a more formal statement.

I have very mixed feelings about online discount retailers and have no current plans of working with online vendors that practice deep discounts. Deep online discounting can potentially hurt many links in the chain, the two most dear to me being the artists involved in the project and the local hobby stores, the brick and motor places communities gather to play games.

I am not in any way discrediting any online retailer and I truly understand an individuals need to be fiscally responsible.

My vision for Kingdom Death consists of well formed relationships with the right partners as opposed to as many partners as possible.

(*edit - we'll see how what tune im singing once this is all said and done! )

Adam- you didn't respond to my asking if making the Survivor bonus armor models "any armor" was possible or not :-/


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Although now I see 350K DID add 4 more White Lion armor models, which makes me very happy indeed

Next stretch looks like the original female survivor- nice.

Also, I'm not a huge fan of the Lioness art, but the sculpt came out much better imo- it's usually the reverse!

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
*snip*

Thank you so much! For some reason, when I was looking at it on the kickstarter page, it was this huge thing of information that I couldn't break into pieces to understand, but now I understand it and feel much less intimidated.

The game and dragon king/flower knight expansions are a must for me. Survivor level is also tempting for all the extras, not to mention my girlfriend might like the Lioness or Phoenix dancer. I know it should go without saying, but let me say it anyways, these models look fantastic.

Also, damn, I just saw the non pinup female great game hunter on their site, I'm bummed that I missed out on that.

no problem,

the more money you spend (waste, LOL) on KS the easier it becomes to break stuff down

As for the great game hunter (female),

there are sometimes re-releases of the models (without the numbered COA obviously) so get yourself on the KD mailing list.... (stuff often sells out in 24 hours or less)

You never know she might appear on the KS in plastic!

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
You never know she might appear on the KS in plastic!

More likely in the second game where the heroic levels start to appear, but I'd be happy to be wrong as I would like to grab both of the hunter models.

A pic, for those that like pics!

I got tired of waiting for a banner to put in my sig for this project so I made my own.

 Alpharius wrote:
A pic, for those that like pics!

Spoiler:

I'm not a huge fan of how the top pinches in the artwork. It's harder to see on the photo of the resin, but I think this may be one of the pieces I refrain from picking up. Which is good, because my wife would probably have my head if I bought everything.

ADAM! You are the man.

First Kickstarter creator to give a gak and actually listen to his customers!

Not only have you given us increasingly cool stretch goals which substantially add to the value of this game..

You listened and said Hey Canadians, I know your shipping cost sucks, here, let's make it $30.

Thanks and here's to giving you my continued support man.

 IdentifyZero wrote:

First Kickstarter creator to give a gak and actually listen to his customers!

This is outright wrong. Mark from Dream-Forge was amazing during his kickstarter. And I felt Mike and Ali listened pretty well, though were not as open to make changes since it was CMON's kickstarter. I'm sure there were others as well.

Overall Adam's doing a great job. I'm not really into the game itself but some of the pin-ups and multi-part kits might drive me into picking this up anyway.

 Hulksmash wrote:

This is outright wrong. Mark from Dream-Forge was amazing during his kickstarter. And I felt Mike and Ali listened pretty well, though were not as open to make changes since it was CMON's kickstarter. I'm sure there were others as well.

Seconded. DreamForge was amazing in this regard. I am still amazed how Mark stayed sane and solvent despite giving in to each and every whim of his backers.

Not that Adam from KD isn't doing a fantastic job.

I know that given the background of the KD world and the MONSTER box that this is unlikely, but I'd love to see a Twilight Knight in this one:



and a Great Game Hunter too!

Oh.. I like that Game Hunter, especially since she managed to get the 'Pants and Full Shirt' armor set

That's probably not the "Pin up" version of her though!

 Alpharius wrote:
That's probably not the "Pin up" version of her though!

You are correct, this is the pin-up version



*returns to lurking*

I'll take both, please!

Does anyone knows what is the scale on those ones?