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 cincydooley wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
This supposedly (TBC) is the adult sunstalker - some my consider this image NSFW

http://cghub.com/images/view/154932/

If it is, I hope the creepy penis part goes away.

It can't! Then how it will it make Sunstalker infants?

I will say - bit of a double standard here. We've got penis on this thing, and the guy with Spidicules, not to mention Gorm's giant ballsack (not sure what else is under there). Yet with the exception of the illuminated lady all the females are keeping covered (if only barely) - even the clearly kinky-as-hell leather pin-up. I just find it rather odd / funny - we have to whisper about the illuminated lady and hide her in the text-only options - but swinging the pipe is fine!

 cincydooley wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
This supposedly (TBC) is the adult sunstalker - some my consider this image NSFW

http://cghub.com/images/view/154932/

If it is, I hope the creepy penis part goes away.

I hope it gets bigger.

I didn't see any pictures of the Gorm's... err... stuff, on the KS page, so I don't see any double standard.

Also, there are a lot more scantily clad ladies than men on this. I think the idea that there is a "reverse" double standard of having more male than female nudity is pretty laughable, given the models.

And I can't imagine that the sunstalker model linked to above will make it into the campaign as-is. That is indeed pretty darn creepy... and Adam's been somewhat conservative about the sculpts he's included so far.

Well... there's only one way to find out...

Has Adam actually shown all of the figures that come in the base game yet? It seems all the effort is being spent on showing off "optional $15 add-ons" and the like.

I'll probably pull my pledge before this ends. I'm getting tired of these...

 scipio.au wrote:
Has Adam actually shown all of the figures that come in the base game yet? It seems all the effort is being spent on showing off "optional $15 add-ons" and the like.

I'll probably pull my pledge before this ends. I'm getting tired of these...

Tired of what?

And what pledge amount are you in at?

I'm so confused....what are you tired of?

I think he means, tired of the focus on add-ons, rather than showing what is in the base game (such as the additional gameplay videos, or better shots of the game box figures of which some of the armor sets haven't been clearly shown, etc).

Not saying I agree, although I did think it was a little wearying focusing on the pay-to-play add ons. However, you could just stop checking the page I guess

Sure, I guess?

Sounds like a pretty silly reason to pull out, but whatever.

Contacted the forum member to take my slot on the Kingdom Death pledge manager.

Unfortunately I have only one slot and can only give it to one person. My Apologies to people who may be disappointed.

Again, me pulling out has nothing to do with being disgruntled by this Kick Starter. I have some unexpected costs come at me (about 800 dollars in Cherry wood), just have to take care of priorities at this current moment.

The Archivist girls fahkin AWESOME!

Will she be for sale by her self at a later date?

I'm not sure that the 'Archivist' model has even been confirmed as being part of this Kickstarter campaign yet!

She might not be a part of it at all, and end up 'just' on the Kingdom Death webpage for sale in their shop...

Every time I try and run away with a full wallet something naughty pulls me back in >.>

Quick, someone sell me on why I need to pay $36 for some King's Men instead of waiting for the retail release!

They will be released for individual sale, right? Any idea for how much?

 RiTides wrote:
I think he means, tired of the focus on add-ons, rather than showing what is in the base game (such as the additional gameplay videos, or better shots of the game box figures of which some of the armor sets haven't been clearly shown, etc).

Not saying I agree, although I did think it was a little wearying focusing on the pay-to-play add ons. However, you could just stop checking the page I guess

Thanks - and you're largely correct. There's a few elements at work, really.

I actually haven't been checking the page too often at all - like less than once a week. I've stopped following Kickstarters too closely in general past the initial few days until the last few days, as I'm simply not inclined to be changing my pledges every two days. But yeah, I asked about "what's in the box?"



awhile back, and it seems that's there's still no good images/answer on the page - just that tiny little pic - but there's plenty of good quality images if you want to lay down an extra twenty on a pair of breasts. It's kinda tiring. I'll freely admit that I'm also getting a little burnt out on Kickstarters as well, particularly those that are all about the add-on stretch goals which require taking a $130 pledge to $500 if you want to get all the stuff (damn my OCD!)

I'm down for round $150 so far. One of the third-tier early birds - something like that.

 Fafnir wrote:
Sounds like a pretty silly reason to pull out, but whatever.

I'm also not in love with the models. Sure, they're nice enough, but I'm not totally in love with the particular aesthetic or their lack of wider compatibility with the rest of my collection in that they are 38-40mm or so. I'll also admit I don't get the level of deification and hero-worship for KD stuff. But hey, personal aesthetics, I guess. The whole fetish giant boobs falling out of their tops anime softcore thing that Adam has going is nice enough, but not "shut up and take my money" level exciting to me.

So for reasons to pull out - it's expensive and not going to actually arrive for (probably) close to a year, I like but don't love the models, I could buy a half-dozen other on-release boardgames that have good reviews rather than a rather vague "all things for all people - it's the best, Jerry" concept, for the same amount, or a lot of other miniatures. Or a lot of other "toys" or whatever type (Sideshow statues, Hot Toys figures). I'm a bit disheartened with Kickstarters in general and tired of being disappointed with them not delivering, (though Adam is being smart here with the long lead time), the focus being heavily on paid add-ons and still not having shown what's in the box properly or clearly. I also have a couple of thousand figures to paint already before we get to things like Reaper and Sedition Wars, so I figure I might be better off curbing some of the spending on random-but-nice models like these and getting more painting done instead. There's a few reasons for you, and many of them also apply to, say, Imbrian Arts.

It also comes down to best use of my money. I've just bought a new house, so it's another Kickstarter for $3-500 that will arrive in 8-11 months - which I'm not totally in love with anyway - or money towards a new fridge, or a new gate, or improved internet cabling through the house, or...

Seriously though - for those people who love the KD aesthetic and want to go in for a heap - more power to you. I'm not pissing on your parade by saying that I'd actually like to see the whole set before making a final decision, or that I might choose to pull out. I'm not saying the figures are bad, or that Adam is the debil, or that you're stupid for spending money on these toy soldiers instead of those toy soldiers. I'm just saying that I might choose to pull out. No need to get offended or upset, surely you don't need others to validate your choices, and my $150-odd is just a drop in the bucket as far as your stretch goals go...

If I do pull out of the EB, It'll be in the last couple of days, and I'll let the thread know so we can try and coordinate someone else into the EB slot via PM or something.

This might answer some of your questions, Scipio, if you haven't seen it already. Most of the information is being compiled together by backers.

Well, that's entirely fair. It's just that the way your previous post was worded seemed kind of silly (granted, it's all your prerogative), considering the nature of kickstarters themselves.

BOLS: Kingdom Death: Monster - Preview Part 1

@Scipio: That makes sense, and houses are expensive.

As for the game contents, other than the rules, gameplay and potentially tile (2' x 3' I think) the rest has been shown at some point... not well laid out though.

The link from Dentry is a must see for that question.

I am very excited about this KS, but I am not getting much other than the expansions (as the Pin-ups are regular price). So I can get them later (the exception is the lioness which I fell in love with!)

I have been slowly re-working the homepage with the eventual goal of showcasing the contents of the game box. The contents of the box are all highlighted in the pitch video and were touched upon in many of the early stretch goals and the campaign is way... WAY past the initial projections!

The info-graphic that shows all the miniatures and stuff in the box is... really challenging! I've worked on the design many times now and I've yet to find a happy place. This whole experience has been just insane! Every time I look at the clock hours seem to have just vanished and messages diligently march into my inbox!

The amount of content in the game box is just intense! I've made this temp text list for now :

no idea why this double posted, so I'll use it for this message instead

Scipio, check out the BOLS link there are plenty of good shots of the armour kit minis, enough to show what the sort of thing you'll get is

if these don't inspire you you're probably better spending on home improvements (I know what a huge expense a new house is), but hopefully they'll grab your 'must have shiney' collector impulses

Would I gain anything by going double survivor reward if I plan on adding a couple of extras? I believe that I might get to around $600-700. Perhaps would be smarter to go with two accounts at $300 a piece to get double the bonuses?

How do you guys reason?

Herad of Death only counts once no matter how many box sets you order (you don't get 2 lots if you order 2 box sets and exceed $600) so 2 accounts is the way to go if you want double the Herald of Death stuff

@KD- At some point (before the end of the campaign?) it'd be good to have at least an updated simple text list of the Survivor bonuses...


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I see the text for Survivor is Slightly updated... kind of highlights how until the latest stretch there was what, I think 250K since the last Survivor bonus?

If you add a second survivor level (155) that will come with all the survivor level bonuses too

Adam has said the Herald of Death stuff is one per backer, so using two accounts to try and double up on this freebie is probably a bad idea (I'd guess if he sees the same name/shipping address you wouldn't get the second lot anyway, you could get round it but it doesn't seem in the spirit of thing)


On the other hand buying it all on one account does mean less shipping for an international buyer (which at $45 is worth more than the Herald freebies anyway).......

Ah good point international shipping is $45 adding another Manhunter and Lion Knight is $45 so no benefit to the second account option

You get the Manhunter and the Lion Knight, but you ALSO get all the additional items from the game box (armour kits, watcher, phoenix, etc.).

So, instead of going $700 in one account, it does sound like a lot better to go 2 x 300 + optionals. And I don't even mean a little better but a lot.

That's assuming you're just going for volume of plastic.

Furthermore, a kickstarter shouldn't be about "gaming the system," but actually backing a project.

The new side options list shows that you can add a Survivor Level set of rewards for $155 to an existing pledge I take it from that, that you get another game boxset and all Survivor stretch rewards for another $155 plus there is no additional shipping fee $45 covers your entire pledge.

 cincydooley wrote:

 DaveC wrote:
This supposedly (TBC) is the adult sunstalker - some my consider this image NSFW

http://cghub.com/images/view/154932/

If it is, I hope the creepy penis part goes away.

You don't seem to have a problem with the pin-up's but one lousy penis gives you the creeps?