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So I'm trying to write a few lists for a near full Khorne CSM army. What HQ unit should I use?
I've been debating between Kharn The Betrayer, a Daemon Prince of Khorne, and then just a standard Chaos Lord w/ MoK.

Also if I chose the daemon prince of khorne does that count as him having the mark of khorne so that bezerkers can be troops?

(Also I wasn't sure to ask this either here or in the Army Lists section so if its in the wrong section my bad)

Unfortunately, the DP isn't an option if you want Berserkers as troops. You're limited to either Kharn or a Lord with MoK.

Kharn is really, really, really nasty, and is a bargain at his points cost. I usually roll with him.

Another great Lord option? Lord with MoK on Juggernaut with Sigil of Corruption, and Axe of Blind Fury. Very rough.

A custom built khorne lord rolling with some chaos spawn is almost a shoe in for a T2 assault and hopefully he comes in at a good angle where the opposing chump can not accept the challenge. Then you just proceed to merc the whole unit laughing like a maniac yelling MAIM! KILL BURN!

Kharn the Betrayer is an absolute monster. I might recommend converting your own though, since his model is very dated and has a pretty static pose. The aforementioned Khorne Lord on a Juggernaut decked to the nines with awesome gear (like that special named axe) sounds like a fun character too, and rolling him with Spawn means he's got some protection while he moves up the field.

So I'm just getting back into the game and I'm rusty on the acronyms. Whats a T2 assault? And I like the idea of creating my own Kharn model....

3 Khornate mutilators a Khornate terminator lord with the dumb axe and kharn all in a land raider with the screaming things!

 m4nathan wrote:
So I'm just getting back into the game and I'm rusty on the acronyms. Whats a T2 assault? And I like the idea of creating my own Kharn model....

Turn two.

Take kharn, but then also take a level 3 sorcerer with spell familliar and roll on biomancy. Attach both to the same squad of 20 dudes and win. Nothing like FNP and not dying on kharns death blob, plus the ability to lower enemy toughness and strength.

A lord on a juggy attached to 5 spawn is also a good option.

The only choice for a true knornate army is kharn. Everything else is just counts as.

Keep in mind that a Khorne Juggerlord is forced to accept every challenge since there's no Champion to also take them like in Bikers.

clively wrote:
The only choice for a true knornate army is kharn. Everything else is just counts as.

Exactly....I didnt even know there was another HQ.

 juraigamer wrote:
Take kharn, but then also take a level 3 sorcerer with spell familliar and roll on biomancy. Attach both to the same squad of 20 dudes and win. Nothing like FNP and not dying on kharns death blob, plus the ability to lower enemy toughness and strength.

A lord on a juggy attached to 5 spawn is also a good option.

I like this idea for a big army, but I'm still acquiring units so I'll probably just take Kharn for now and put him in a transport of some sort with a squad of 'zerkers.

clively wrote:
The only choice for a true knornate army is kharn. Everything else is just counts as.

If you don't think a screaming bald dude with a skull for a face on top of a giant brass donkey from hell with a soul-stealing axe isn't the most Khornate thing ever, then I don't know what to tell you.

Haha thanks for all the replies guys! Kharn seems to be my guy. Can't wait to get home next week and start fabbing up my own model of him.

If you're gonna run Kharn, I'd recommend getting him a land raider. Put Kharn and some buddies (Kharn and friends, as I've come to call them) in there and then roll em up to whatever you want dead. Rhinos are ok, but you may have to whether a turn of shooting before getting to assault if you use one, and when Kharn is in the squad, they're gonna take LOTS of fire. If you want Kharn to do more than just be a bullet magnet, give him the assault vehicle he craves.

Bear in mind as well that Kharn WILL kill some of your own men in CC so don't be too sad when it happens.

Generic CSM MoK lord with the axe of blind fury and sigil of corruption. But make sure to give him Terminator armor, then attach him to either a squad of Terminators or a squad of Spawn

 m4nathan wrote:
Haha thanks for all the replies guys! Kharn seems to be my guy. Can't wait to get home next week and start fabbing up my own model of him.

lol i read that as fapping haha


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Oh and on topic Love Kharn &Co in LR works very well , but khorne lord on juggernaut with axe of blind fury with some spawn is pretty awesome

I usually run Kharn, a lord with axe of bilnd fury and 8 berserkers (champ with power fist) in a land raider with another squad of berserkers in a rhino close behind as support. Will chew through anything. My last game they went through 3 killa kans, a full mob of slugga boyz and a full mob of tank busters in a truck Gonna be testing them against Eldar next week.

 m4nathan wrote:

 juraigamer wrote:
Take kharn, but then also take a level 3 sorcerer with spell familliar and roll on biomancy. Attach both to the same squad of 20 dudes and win. Nothing like FNP and not dying on kharns death blob, plus the ability to lower enemy toughness and strength.

A lord on a juggy attached to 5 spawn is also a good option.

I like this idea for a big army, but I'm still acquiring units so I'll probably just take Kharn for now and put him in a transport of some sort with a squad of 'zerkers.

...I thought Khorne and Sorcerers didn't get along? You could do it, but it wouldn't be very fluffy; if you made an Unmarked Daemon Prince or Lord as your Warlord and had the Sorcerer and Kharn both subordinate to him it'd make a little more sense in the background, but that'd mean two detachments...

 m4nathan wrote:
So I'm trying to write a few lists for a near full Khorne CSM army. What HQ unit should I use?
I've been debating between Kharn The Betrayer, a Daemon Prince of Khorne, and then just a standard Chaos Lord w/ MoK.

Also if I chose the daemon prince of khorne does that count as him having the mark of khorne so that bezerkers can be troops?

(Also I wasn't sure to ask this either here or in the Army Lists section so if its in the wrong section my bad)

Just use this cookie cutter conbo:

Chaos Lord
Mark of Khorne
Juggernaut
Sigil of Corruption
Axe of Khorne


Kharn the Betrayer sucks. he's T4 with a 5+ invulnerable save so the first battlecannon that hits him means he's toast. You have to put him in a Land Raider to make sure he even survives, and we all know how Land Raiders work in this edition: they don't. So for around 400 points you have Kharn and land Raider.

He's too much trouble for something so insignificant.

 AnomanderRake wrote:



...I thought Khorne and Sorcerers didn't get along?

They don't but for some reason there is no stipulation for allowing a sorcerer to join a MOK squad. Since you can choose to fail deny the witch... laughs ensue.

I have been running Kharn with ~20 cultists. The unit has great synergy. Kharn makes the cultists fearless, and they give him a ton of LoS rolls. It sorta forces the opponent to lay into dirt cheap models early. If they are taking a beating, have kharn jump into another squad, or vehicle, and keep moving. If the cultists survive, they have a lot of attacks with hatred, the chump champ makes the challenge, and kharn goes to town on the squad (and if he does hit a cultist, who cares?).