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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)




The Great State of Texas

They don't have to learn writing from him.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
 
   
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Fixture of Dakka






Dorset, Southern England

I see no problem with this whatsoever. I feel it shws the world is growing as an international community.

BlapBlapBlap: bringing idiocy and mischief where it should never set foot since 2011.

BlapBlapBlap wrote:What sort of idiot quotes themselves in their sigs? Who could possibly be that arrogant?
 
   
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Sheffield, City of University and Northern-ness

 Frazzled wrote:
They don't have to learn writing from him.

Yes, but someone complaining about how "dem immigrants don't speak English" whilst spelling loads of it wrong, seems rather hypocritical.

   
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The Great State of Texas

 Goliath wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
They don't have to learn writing from him.

Yes, but someone complaining about how "dem immigrants don't speak English" whilst spelling loads of it wrong, seems rather hypocritical.


I was thinking more humorous than hypocritical. Seeing hwo poorly I type and proofread, I really can't say anything.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
 
   
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Fixture of Dakka






Dorset, Southern England

 Frazzled wrote:
 Goliath wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
They don't have to learn writing from him.

Yes, but someone complaining about how "dem immigrants don't speak English" whilst spelling loads of it wrong, seems rather hypocritical.


I was thinking more humorous than hypocritical. Seeing hwo poorly I type and proofread, I really can't say anything.

Was that on purpose?

BlapBlapBlap: bringing idiocy and mischief where it should never set foot since 2011.

BlapBlapBlap wrote:What sort of idiot quotes themselves in their sigs? Who could possibly be that arrogant?
 
   
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Fixture of Dakka




Kamloops, BC

 Albatross wrote:
Palindrome wrote:
 Albatross wrote:

All I'm getting from you is teenage angst, to be quite honest.


While all I am getting from you is xenophobia to be quite honest, mixed in a with a fear of change.

I have not only been abroad I have lived abroad for about 3 years all told. Have you been in the Gaidlhealtachd, do you even know what it is?

My guess would be an area of Scotland in which Gaelic is widely-spoken.

*checks wikipedia*

Yep, pretty much. How do you account for the existence of such places when most people in Britain speak English? I mean, presumably they'd have to be pretty xenophobic and frightened of change, right?

And if you think I'm xenophobic, I advise you to dig out your English textbooks and brush up on your skills a wee bit. I'm an educated man. I've lived overseas in a non-english speaking country. I have foreign friends. It might be convenient for you to paint me as an ignorant xenophobe because you lack the tools to make any other argument, but people like me typically tend to be a thorn in the side of the liberal establishment precisely because I'm not racist, I have had a liberal education, I've considered the arguments and I'm just not buying them. Culture is a site of negotiation, which means I have every right to resist cultural change. It's not based on ignorance, it's based on preference. I prefer my my country to remain the way it is because I sincerely believe that incoming cultures have nothing of much value to offer Britain in this day and age. That might sound chauvinistic, but there's a little bit of chauvinist in all of us if we're being truly honest. Take yourself, for example.


I think were going have to agree to disagree, but I do understand where you're coming from though you like familiarity in your country and you probably have a more defined idea of what British culture means than many other people and I respect that. I on other hand get bored easily and

enjoy change, don't really care much about traditionalism plus I don't really have a strong sense of what being Canadian is, so I'm more lenient towards immigration. Maybe it has to do with Canadian values or that I lean more towards liberalism and/or social democracy (although I don't

necessarily dislike conservatism Winston Churchill is one of my favourite historical figures), I'm not totally sure.

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The Great State of Texas

No actually...

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
 
   
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Fixture of Dakka






Glasgow, Scotland

Anyone happen to have a chart of the number of immigrant citizens in other EU nations? England's the first stop in the union for immigrants usually, so its no wonder it has so many. Scotland's actually not getting enough skilled immigrants by current standards, despite what Conservatives may say. Perhaps a chart of the number of immigrants residing in the financial hubs of various countries would also help display that this really isn't something to take note of. However Britain does have immigrations laws that appear to be a tad more lax than other countries though. I don't know what the case is in England, but here EU citizens are treated as Scots when it comes to registring for higher education (Ie its free for five years pretty much) which has widespread abuse of the system (one Uni near me was told to cap the number of foreign students it had last year). ...People from the rest of Britain however have to pay their own countries rates to study here oddly. =P
   
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Perth/Glasgow

 Wyrmalla wrote:
Anyone happen to have a chart of the number of immigrant citizens in other EU nations? England's the first stop in the union for immigrants usually, so its no wonder it has so many. Scotland's actually not getting enough skilled immigrants by current standards, despite what Conservatives may say. Perhaps a chart of the number of immigrants residing in the financial hubs of various countries would also help display that this really isn't something to take note of. However Britain does have immigrations laws that appear to be a tad more lax than other countries though. I don't know what the case is in England, but here EU citizens are treated as Scots when it comes to registring for higher education (Ie its free for five years pretty much) which has widespread abuse of the system (one Uni near me was told to cap the number of foreign students it had last year). ...People from the rest of Britain however have to pay their own countries rates to study here oddly. =P


Which uni was it? I attend Strathclyde and there's a lot of non-UK students here (Can't imagine it being Glasgow Caley)

Currently debating whether to study for my exams or paint some Deathwing 
   
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Glasgow, Scotland

Actually it was Caley. Stow and Langside also were given some stern words. (Though it could be expect of Stow...). =/
   
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So my point is not valid because I have dislexcia? (you know I tend to spell things how they sound or I think I'm spelling it and I mess up my letters and it's stressful to write) And when did I mention spelling? I said able to speak it, I don't care about writing it.

Have you noticed, everytime some one talks valid points about imigration people can't attack their words they attack their grammer and spelling, sad.

Come into my web, said the spider to the fly.
Come rest your wings, and let us talk eye to eye.
For I am a spider, and you are the fly. Now that you are here, let us sit, and say hi.
But I have have no morsel to share, nor anything to eat. But wait, what is that stickiness upon your feet.
Ah now I have you, now I can eat. Now I can enjoy you, or store you as meat.
For I am the spider, and you are the fly. How else could it have gone, between one such as you, and one such as I.
 
   
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Et In Arcadia Ego





Canterbury

 Themanwiththeplan wrote:


Have you noticed, everytime some one talks valid points about imigration .


You didn't actually make any points.

You offered a poorly thought out and spelt opinion, that's about it.

The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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Yes reds8n I am wrong in my general gist because I can't spell or use grammer properly thanks to dislexcia, what ever helps you sleep.

Come into my web, said the spider to the fly.
Come rest your wings, and let us talk eye to eye.
For I am a spider, and you are the fly. Now that you are here, let us sit, and say hi.
But I have have no morsel to share, nor anything to eat. But wait, what is that stickiness upon your feet.
Ah now I have you, now I can eat. Now I can enjoy you, or store you as meat.
For I am the spider, and you are the fly. How else could it have gone, between one such as you, and one such as I.
 
   
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Et In Arcadia Ego





Canterbury

And you fail to actually make a point, once again.

Perhaps it's the rat poison fluoride in the water supply.

If you do suffer from (sic) dislexcia then it really is worth taking the extra time and effort to use the simple spell check function built into so many browsers/similar these days.

The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
 
   
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Anti-piracy Officer






Somewhere in south-central England.

Another point worth mentioning is that immigrants are required to sit exams written in English.

I'm writing a load of fiction. My latest story starts here... This is the index of all the stories...

We're not very big on official rules. Rules lead to people looking for loopholes. What's here is about it. 
   
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Why when it must make that vein on your head pulse judging on the way you keep bringing it up, plus I'm on a brick phone. And I fink I'l stick as is ta, cuz it eza 4 me and dont care what people fink. Jst b glad I dont write lik dis

Killkrazy - true the orignal imigrant does sit the test, then after brings his whole exstended family over who can't speak a word . I don't have a problem with colour or people being forign. What I do have a problem with is people abusing my country.

Come into my web, said the spider to the fly.
Come rest your wings, and let us talk eye to eye.
For I am a spider, and you are the fly. Now that you are here, let us sit, and say hi.
But I have have no morsel to share, nor anything to eat. But wait, what is that stickiness upon your feet.
Ah now I have you, now I can eat. Now I can enjoy you, or store you as meat.
For I am the spider, and you are the fly. How else could it have gone, between one such as you, and one such as I.
 
   
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The Great State of Texas

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Another point worth mentioning is that immigrants are required to sit exams written in English.


Well, any good self respecting immigrant should be made to stand up and do push ups while taking exams. Anyone can sit down for one. Pbom bom!

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
 
   
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Sheffield, City of University and Northern-ness

 Themanwiththeplan wrote:
So my point is not valid because I have dislexcia? (you know I tend to spell things how they sound or I think I'm spelling it and I mess up my letters and it's stressful to write) And when did I mention spelling? I said able to speak it, I don't care about writing it.

Have you noticed, everytime some one talks valid points about imigration people can't attack their words they attack their grammer and spelling, sad.

I may have pointed this out already, but the comparison I gave was that it was worse spelling and grammar than my dyslexic younger brother.

And, as Reds8n said, you didn't make any points. You gave an anecdote about how dem immigrants form communities, then complained about Christmas being secularised.

How about this? How come all them immigrants had to come over and change my winter solstice to some middle eastern guys birthday?
And finally, of course people are going to "ignore your valid point about immigration" in lieu of attacking your ability at English, when your "valid point" was criticising immigrants' ability at English.

   
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Come into my web, said the spider to the fly.
Come rest your wings, and let us talk eye to eye.
For I am a spider, and you are the fly. Now that you are here, let us sit, and say hi.
But I have have no morsel to share, nor anything to eat. But wait, what is that stickiness upon your feet.
Ah now I have you, now I can eat. Now I can enjoy you, or store you as meat.
For I am the spider, and you are the fly. How else could it have gone, between one such as you, and one such as I.
 
   
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Bryan Ansell





Birmingham, UK

What I don't understand is how the average immigrant is lazy and scrounging whilst at the same time taking our jobs.
   
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Dorset, Southern England

 Mr. Burning wrote:
What I don't understand is how the average immigrant is lazy and scrounging whilst at the same time taking our jobs.

Because it simply acts as a way to justify anti-immigration views. They really aren't that lazy...

Y'know, with the whole not taking everything for granted thing...

BlapBlapBlap: bringing idiocy and mischief where it should never set foot since 2011.

BlapBlapBlap wrote:What sort of idiot quotes themselves in their sigs? Who could possibly be that arrogant?
 
   
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[MOD]
Anti-piracy Officer






Somewhere in south-central England.

Legal immigrants can't get benefits for the first five years. (It used to be two.) NO RECOURSE TO PUBLIC FUNDS is stamped on the visa.

Illegal immigrants can't get benefits.

I'm writing a load of fiction. My latest story starts here... This is the index of all the stories...

We're not very big on official rules. Rules lead to people looking for loopholes. What's here is about it. 
   
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Oberstleutnant





Back in the English morass

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Legal immigrants can't get benefits for the first five years. (It used to be two.) NO RECOURSE TO PUBLIC FUNDS is stamped on the visa.

Illegal immigrants can't get benefits.


Don't they all live in mansions while the native population live in caves and eat mud?

RegalPhantom wrote:
If your fluff doesn't fit, change your fluff until it does
The prefect example of someone missing the point.
Do not underestimate the Squats. They survived for millenia cut off from the Imperium and assailed on all sides. Their determination and resilience is an example to us all.
-Leman Russ, Meditations on Imperial Command book XVI (AKA the RT era White Dwarf Commpendium).
Its just a shame that they couldn't fight off Andy Chambers.
Warzone Plog 
   
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Birmingham, UK

Palindrome wrote:
 Kilkrazy wrote:
Legal immigrants can't get benefits for the first five years. (It used to be two.) NO RECOURSE TO PUBLIC FUNDS is stamped on the visa.

Illegal immigrants can't get benefits.


Don't they all live in mansions while the native population live in caves and eat mud?


Yup.

They are a bunch of ill educated savages whilst being intelligent enough to play the system at the same time.
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut






Sheffield, City of University and Northern-ness

 Mr. Burning wrote:
Palindrome wrote:
 Kilkrazy wrote:
Legal immigrants can't get benefits for the first five years. (It used to be two.) NO RECOURSE TO PUBLIC FUNDS is stamped on the visa.

Illegal immigrants can't get benefits.


Don't they all live in mansions while the native population live in caves and eat mud?


Yup.

They are a bunch of ill educated savages whilst being intelligent enough to play the system at the same time.

And are both a massive drain on the system whilst also stealing all the jobs off of hard working Brits/Americans/[Insert Nationality Here]

   
 
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